I could say the same for you.

Not even.

Either we believe in freedom of religion or we don't here in this here United States.

If we don't believe in freedom of religion, I say get rid of them all then.

We can be a religiousless country. It would end a lot of fighting and we could then stop the wars in the middle east.

A Mulim mosque on ground zero would be an excellent healing method and we should be proud to be a country that can do this. Showing we are no longer the racist/prejudice country that we have been in the past.

Not all muslims are extremists and I believe those that think so are narrow minded pinheads.

On the other hand, I'm not sure that the plans to build a mosque at ground zero sits well with me. It just seems to me that other countries never seem to hesitate to try and slap America in the face every chance they get and this just seems like someone is trying to pour salt in the wound.

Even if we do allow this to be built, no one else will think we are more forgiving, we've done plenty of forgiving in the past and it doesn't seem to change the hatred / envy that other people harbor for us.

Considering that we have Muslims who are American citizens, who by the way have had a hard time since 9/11, we are not just catering to the world, it is for healing here at home too.

cant we all get along and praise(or not praise) next to each other in our own ways,,,?

Okay Mr. Willing, can you honestly say that the United have not had religious and I use the term loosely "cults/radicalists" most famous UMMM, Charles Manson, David Koresh, the bombing The arians did with the child care inside, the stand offs with arians, the girls disappearing in to different cults. The fact remain the US as well as the Muslim countries maintain radicalists, granted ours cause terrors within our own country. We can not as a country where freedom from oppression, religion, bearing arms, speech, and predujices. The place where every human being deserves to meld and learn from each other. So what if they cover themselves from head to toe and we do not. There was once a time in this country when a women of good standard maintained coverag from head to toe and everyong wore their Sunday best. Is this really an unacceptable practice, if they wish it? God, Allah, Budda, josiah, or whatever other name you call your faith holder. The fact remains all relgions carry the same basic commonalities of beliefs in the anime, a higher power, which power you choose is your to own. Peace and the thought that their true religion is the correct religion. Had anyone ever thought that combinations of cultural theories pretains to making this country a great place to learn to get along and respect one another in an effort of struggle and strife? To find peace and forgivness in all our souls as most religions demand?

you really have problems...last name Palin by any chance?? your banter is funny at times but now it's just getting boresome and annoying.

Ain't nuthin' wrong with drillin'. It's allowing jerkwads like BP to use substandard equipment.

Who's watch gave them a safety reward?

Bush did use the word "Crusade" but he did not mention Christianity,Holy,Jesus,God,or anything related to the bible.He also did not tell the Christians to start a Holy war,use any biblical references in defense of the War,tell the church to get involved with the war or anything else related to Christianity.I also don't remember Bush saying that this war was started because of biblical reasons and the reason we should stop it is for biblical reasons.

I am going to post the entire paragraph from which you posted earlier

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenth_Crusade

"The word crusade was used by US President George W. Bush first on the day of the September 11, 2001 attacks, quoted below, and on the national day of mourning which honored the death of the 3,000 victims of the attacks. He said that "this crusade, this war on terrorism is going to take a while."[1]. The use of this figure of speech was criticized in Europe, and Arabic speaking countries. Supporters of the President's usage of crusade argue that from context Bush had used the word crusade in a military, non-religious sense, such as The Great Crusade which was the phrase used by General Dwight D. Eisenhower to describe the D-Day invasion of Europe to the Allied troops in his order of the day broadcast. [2] They point to many modern dictionaries which define crusade (not capitalized) to include any vigorous action aimed at achieving a particular noble goal. [3] [4] However, particularly in predominantly Muslim parts of the world, the term crusade produces the same sort of negative reaction as the term jihad does in much of the West.


I reasearched the IRA and found no proof that they were engaing in terrorism over Christianity.There was not a single statement by their members claiming that they were conducting terrorism for God or Jesus.From what I have read many of them said they have never even sat foot in a church.The only reason religion comes into the picture at all is because 99% of Ireland is Catholics and of course they must be Catholics also.Their terrorism is 100% political.Matter of fact on the Wikepedia pages Religon is not even listed in the contents.Even if they claimed to be doing this for God there is nothing backing up their actions biblicaly and all their actions are against the Christian laws and morals.

I also did not find the ETA making any claims that what they were doing was a result of the bible,God,or Jesus.Much like the last group it was all political.The ETA defined itself as "aconfessional"—meaning ETA does not recognize a special state religion.I also did not find a Religion section on the Wikipedia page.Maybe if you are so smart you can find some quotes from the leaders of the ETA or the IRA saying they are doing these things because of their beliefs in Christianity.


What about Nazi Germany?You really think what Hitler was doing was because of Christianity?He was burning churches everywhere he went.Hitler wanted total control of the world.That control did not include having a higher power(God)that was second to him.Hitler considered Christianity and religion just as bad as the Jews.A few of Hilers quotes.

"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity. Bolshevism practises a lie of the same nature, when it claims to bring liberty to men, whereas in reality it seeks only to enslave them."

"Christianity, of course, has reached the peak of absurdity in this respect. And that's why one day its structure will collapse. Science has already impregnated humanity. Consequently, the more Christianity clings to its dogmas, the quicker it will decline".

"Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity. It will last another hundred years, two hundred years perhaps."

"But Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery".

"Christianity is a prototype of Bolshevism: the mobilisation by the Jew of the masses of slaves with the object of undermining society. Thus one understands that the healthy elements of the Roman world were proof against this doctrine."



I remember Bush giving the Axes of Evil speech not the churches.Bush does not represent anyone but himself.He wasn't speaking for the Church or the Christians.



Christians are attacking people with drone missles???Wow that's a hot one!Last time I checked it was our GOVERNMENT who was sending missles.Our Government does not in any way represent the Christian church.The church also does not give the military orders,make laws,or equip the military with weapons.

Now yer gettin' all formal on me with that Mr Willing stuff. I thought we'd gone to the next level!

As far as monitoring cults to see what they might be funding, I wouldn't restrict that to just the Muslims.

Matter of fact, wasn't it just a little while ago, one mosque was busted for funding and/or recruiting terrorists?

The main thing about muslim is mohammed. He was a flat out practiced and endorses pet-o-feel-ya and bestiality. Now, that's sick and nasty!!
Sorry. I didn't realize the link I posted had obscenities in it. I just cut and glued it without reading it.

I would like to add this:

The number of Muslims in the United States today is estimated to be between 6-8 million. According to several surveys commissioned between 2006-2008, African-Americans make up about 25% of the Muslim population of the U.S.

http://islam.about.com/od/history/a/afammuslims_3.htm

Obama has nothing to do with this. The New York City community board voted on it.

more proof of how diverse any one religion can be,,,I would guess that the numbers are including those in the NOI and I can assure you that many MUSLIMS dont truly consider the NOI a part of their religion....

but it is interesting information,, I think people should believe in what works for them so long as they they treat others with respect and dignity,,,,,I also believe every religion has wonderful people and awful people and within their customs and beliefs are valuable things for everyone to learn from

More diversity in the Muslim religion: Between 50,000 and 70,000 Muslim Bosnians now live in St. Louis.

Islam says to beat your wife and kill the infidel .

Jesus Christ said, honor your wife, Love Your Enemies and Do good to them that Hate you.

Just sayin'

I would like to ask all the women who defend Islama question.

If they came to you and told you, you must accept their beliefs, dress as commanded and accept your place in their world or die.

Would you give in and convert?

Only 315,322,000 Muslims in the Middle east and North Africa.I think it's safe to say the majority of them hate America,Christians and the Jews.315 million is not a minority!It's more than the entire population of the United states.

I wonder if I will ever see the day when the religious actually do what they teach.

Please keep the insults off the forums. Debate the topic/post not the poster(s).

Thank you,

Kim
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So I guess American Muslims arn't dangerous. Anwar al-Awlaki ring a bell at all?