I respect that but would you just sign on a free site and flirt with women, with absolutely NO ability to read their emails or send any?

I mean WTH's the point right?

I have not clue, and I have to be honest...I have never been on a pay site and I wouldn't be. I somehow can 't make myself believe I am going to meet a better quality of people on a paid site than I would a free site.
I have been on this site and another for a w hile and the quality of men I have met have been pretty high.
They all had great jobs, doing what they wanted in life. Just great all around people so in my mind why would I want to pay for it.

There was a pay site I took a mo trial with right? Ends up out of 100+ matches they put me with only 3 even VIEWED my profile. Now, I KNOW it wasn't because of me because they couldn't see my face or age .. not that it should deter them but please. That's ridiculous.

Turns out they were matching me to inactive members who never gave a rat's a** about viewing ANY one .. they didn't even click on the website.

They think we are so stupid ..

I am probably not a good person to ask. I am just looking for a woman with a bass boat..........

Unfortunately, a lot of people are....!

I know of a couple pay sites (from people who have used them) that are almost impossible to leave -- they kept charging their credit cards months and months after the person was no longer interested in using the site -- and you need a Papal decree and an untied Gordian Knot to get off of them....!

Of course, they never mention that part on their commercials....!

People do that here, where it is free to send emails. It's what they use nudges for.

I don't entirely understand your logic that someone should be willing to pay $180 a year for the chance to ATTEMPT to email you once.
AS for why many of us join just the free part of a pay site, it's so that we can see if there's anyone there we WOULD be willing to pop the money for...
HOWEVER: Many of the pay sites are either scams, or semi scams. One of the most famous HAS repeatedly been charged with creating false profiles of attractive people to lure others in. I joined as a free member to that one because I'd seen their TV ads, and lo and behold, got an email from a very attractive lady living in my neighborhood. By chance, I knew her from the other COMPLETELY FREE dating site, so I messaged her there, to verify my suspicion that the email was fake. She confirmed that she had never signed up on that pay site. The entire profile was faked, using pictures and information stolen from the free site.
Many of the pay sites CLAIM they will let you sign up for a test period, then allow you to leave if you are not satisfied. The same sites are constantly showing up on the wire-fraud complaint list, because they pretend they can't hear you when you DO ask to leave.
Then there are the ones who allow you to fill out and submit a near complete profile, only at the end, letting on that ONLY filling out a profile is free...in other words, their main goal is to get your information to sell to third party internet scammers.
It goes on. Basically, the reason NOT to join up, is because even at $15 a month, there's no promise that you can get your money back if they are ALSO a scam site, and until someone offers a REAL, CONFIRMED month-to-month membership, WITHOUT requiring a credit card number, to join is to risk at least a full YEARS fees, not just the cheap number you mentioned.

i imagine they think that the people who are actually paying for a dating site are probably more serious, and definitely more real, than those who can create profile after profile for free.

When I first started doing the online dating thing I did a bit of reading about 'do's and don'ts of online dating. One of the touted advantages is the idea that if you are online you are ready, willing and able to meet people. The concept of paid sites reinforces the idea that the person is serious about dating because they are willing to pay for the online service, and that it weeds out the lookie-loos.

And that's one reason why I thought maybe it might be a good idea to try a pay site -- because it just seems, to a lot of people, that you must be more serious about looking if you're ready to shell out a few bucks in the attempt.

And, in that particular site's defense, I will say that I got more attention and more genuine offers to meet on that site than I have had anywhere else.

It's just that none of those people were going to be compatible with me, and there is no amount of money that could have "fixed" that.

Around here, there is a small dating pool to begin with, it was mostly the same people on different sites, the same ones that haven't log on in a long time. I have actually had very little contact with the locals on Mingle. I don't know about any of the paid sites and locals from my area.

No fair .. you got us all curious and leave us hangin ??? That site on TV .. waitin for a name


J/K .. I think Lex might get his shorts in a bunch if u say it here

Lisa & MM .. agreed.

Here's another thought to toss out though.

Do you think it's possible for a site to actually be RUN by scammers .. ie ADMIN?

Paying money to give out email addresses, seems kinda... um .. well dumb. look at face book. its free, and just about anyone can see anything you like .. for free.
This sites half way there, just (imho) it doesn't seem like many ppl know about it. (more importantly. no KIWI girls do)
You should advertise on more sites lol. I'll link you on myn, but I only get 1500 hits a day =(

Any thing that gets the great world of singles to even look at me is huge help, and this sites great at that!

Ya the site is small. That's true. But oh so community oriented so it definitely fulfills that purpose

As to personally being on sites .. I've online dated for I believe 6 years now and I have absolutely no complaints on the amount of men (and women) I've met in person. Probably close to 100 at this juncture.

I have tried a few paid sites honestly I have gotten more dates off the free ones. Plus some of those so called paid sites get you there on the intentions they are free then when you get there all you can do is look therefore I delete my profile from those and move on.

All good stuff ..

BUT ..

my last question STILL hasn't been answered



I know there are scammers and fake profiles, some sites more than others BUT ..

Do you think it realistic that possibly a site is CREATED by scammers? I truly think the last one I was on might be...

Just lookin for some feedback here .....

Naw just think that too many of the sites could careless who joins them as long as they get the membership....

I don't join paysites ever since Eharmony couldn't match me...does that make me a cheapskate? I'm a writer, damnit! Not a millionaire!