Topic: ...on marriage
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Sun 05/09/10 02:39 PM



Why get married? I'm monogamous, too many weird diseases not to be.


Oh poor guy. I'm sure someone is working on a cure for that affliction.


Plus, my Angel is the TOTAL package! Why take a chance on messing that up? No, I'm a grown man, don't need a piece of paper to tell me she's mine, I know in my heart.


For your information people don't really own other people.

The paper is for THE STATE who wants to keep track of the livestock and who is breeding whom.

And of course they collect the licence fees and divorce filing fees.
They say if you want to play, you must PAY.






Where did I say own? She's mine...I'm hers. The state can kiss my a**


Mine = possession, hence OWN.

Example: My gun, My car, My house, My husband, My cat, My dog. etc.

My stuff is mine. I own it. Did you pass English class Peccy?

lilangel2's photo
Sun 05/09/10 03:20 PM


Why get married? I'm monogamous, too many weird diseases not to be.


Oh poor guy. I'm sure someone is working on a cure for that affliction.


Plus, my Angel is the TOTAL package! Why take a chance on messing that up? No, I'm a grown man, don't need a piece of paper to tell me she's mine, I know in my heart.


For your information people don't really own other people.

The paper is for THE STATE who wants to keep track of the livestock and who is breeding whom.

And of course they collect the licence fees and divorce filing fees.
They say if you want to play, you must PAY.









Ohhhh That is sooo true...and all under the guise of religion :angel:

Not saying marriage doesn't have some purpose...taxes, legality stuff...one day it may be beneficial to me and my partner to obtain a piece of paper. But that piece of paper certainly doesn't deife our love.

lilangel2's photo
Sun 05/09/10 03:22 PM

lol..just guys?


Yeah, I/m sure we rolled in a patch of lavender or sumthin' LOLbigsmile

Peccy's photo
Sun 05/09/10 03:27 PM
Edited by Peccy on Sun 05/09/10 03:32 PM




Why get married? I'm monogamous, too many weird diseases not to be.


Oh poor guy. I'm sure someone is working on a cure for that affliction.


Plus, my Angel is the TOTAL package! Why take a chance on messing that up? No, I'm a grown man, don't need a piece of paper to tell me she's mine, I know in my heart.


For your information people don't really own other people.

The paper is for THE STATE who wants to keep track of the livestock and who is breeding whom.

And of course they collect the licence fees and divorce filing fees.
They say if you want to play, you must PAY.






Where did I say own? She's mine...I'm hers. The state can kiss my a**


Mine = possession, hence OWN.

Example: My gun, My car, My house, My husband, My cat, My dog. etc.

My stuff is mine. I own it. Did you pass English class Peccy?
LOL..........nah, I was an editor by chance...........lol The chance I had the classes and the chance I was already published. And last I checked mine meant belonging to, not owned. Are we really going to quibble over possessives?

lilangel2's photo
Sun 05/09/10 03:29 PM
Edited by lilangel2 on Sun 05/09/10 03:32 PM

personally, i like the idea of being married, i like the example it sets for my children and it's the way i prefer to live.

i don't want to be a 'partner', have a 'companion', lack that 'piece of paper' - i want to be someone's wife, have a husband and be married to one another. it feels more complete, more like a family.

i don't care if they are just words to someone else; to me, they are a way of life and provide a sense of security and comfort.


It is not the words or commitment I have a problem with. It is why does it have to be all connected to that piece of paper that gives the government a say in my personal matters??? When did this religious ceremony become a government contract? Why should it be? Who has the right to tell me I am or am not married because of a lack of a government document??? If there was an Adam and a Eve, were they married? Who married them? What defines marriage?

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Sun 05/09/10 03:35 PM


personally, i like the idea of being married, i like the example it sets for my children and it's the way i prefer to live.

i don't want to be a 'partner', have a 'companion', lack that 'piece of paper' - i want to be someone's wife, have a husband and be married to one another. it feels more complete, more like a family.

i don't care if they are just words to someone else; to me, they are a way of life and provide a sense of security and comfort.


It is not the words or commitment I have a problem with. It is why does it have to be all connected to that piece of paper that gives the government a say in my personal matters??? When did this religious ceremony become a government contract? Why should it be? Who has the right to tell me I am or am not married because of a lack of a government document??? If there was an Adam and a Eve, were they married? Who married them? What defines marriage?


well, for me, it isn't about any piece of paper, or a government, or even God - it's what i feel in my head and heart which makes it right and honourable.

lilangel2's photo
Sun 05/09/10 03:37 PM



personally, i like the idea of being married, i like the example it sets for my children and it's the way i prefer to live.

i don't want to be a 'partner', have a 'companion', lack that 'piece of paper' - i want to be someone's wife, have a husband and be married to one another. it feels more complete, more like a family.

i don't care if they are just words to someone else; to me, they are a way of life and provide a sense of security and comfort.


It is not the words or commitment I have a problem with. It is why does it have to be all connected to that piece of paper that gives the government a say in my personal matters??? When did this religious ceremony become a government contract? Why should it be? Who has the right to tell me I am or am not married because of a lack of a government document??? If there was an Adam and a Eve, were they married? Who married them? What defines marriage?


well, for me, it isn't about any piece of paper, or a government, or even God - it's what i feel in my head and heart which makes it right and honourable.


My point exactly! No paper needed bigsmile

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Sun 05/09/10 03:39 PM
What it all comes down to is, do you trust someone enough to trust their word. If you don't then you need a piece of paper with all the states legal power behind it.

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Sun 05/09/10 03:41 PM

personally, i like the idea of being married, i like the example it sets for my children and it's the way i prefer to live.

i don't want to be a 'partner', have a 'companion', lack that 'piece of paper' - i want to be someone's wife, have a husband and be married to one another. it feels more complete, more like a family.

i don't care if they are just words to someone else; to me, they are a way of life and provide a sense of security and comfort.


Spoken by someone who hasn't been burned. It is a nice thought however.....smokin

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Sun 05/09/10 03:42 PM
Edited by papersmile on Sun 05/09/10 03:45 PM
you don't have to make any point with me.

i'm not interested in what you, or anyone else, feels about marriage. if you all aren't interested in being married, that is your business.

for me, it (marriage and all that it entails) is the proper and honourable thing to do.

what i see is that people who don't wish to be married, get all in an uproar about how useless a piece of paper is. if it isn't all that important to someone, what's the big deal about just getting married? why the need to bash the piece of paper, the contract, the government, etc.? me thinks thou doth protest too much - and all that.

Spoken by someone who hasn't been burned. It is a nice thought however.....

believe me, i have been burned. but i don't come on these sites and whine about how bad my ex-husband was, especially since i was just as much at fault for the demise as he was. i just keep that sort of stuff private.




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Sun 05/09/10 03:44 PM

What it all comes down to is, do you trust someone enough to trust their word. If you don't then you need a piece of paper with all the states legal power behind it.


I am secure enough in myself not to have a piece of paper to help me force someone to stay with me bigsmile

Peccy's photo
Sun 05/09/10 03:52 PM


What it all comes down to is, do you trust someone enough to trust their word. If you don't then you need a piece of paper with all the states legal power behind it.


I am secure enough in myself not to have a piece of paper to help me force someone to stay with me bigsmile
she is, trust me:wink: happy

papersmile's photo
Sun 05/09/10 03:53 PM


What it all comes down to is, do you trust someone enough to trust their word. If you don't then you need a piece of paper with all the states legal power behind it.


I am secure enough in myself not to have a piece of paper to help me force someone to stay with me bigsmile


so are you saying that people who get married are insecure?

how does that piece of paper 'force' someone to stay with another?

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Sun 05/09/10 04:01 PM
Edited by lilangel2 on Sun 05/09/10 04:05 PM



What it all comes down to is, do you trust someone enough to trust their word. If you don't then you need a piece of paper with all the states legal power behind it.


I am secure enough in myself not to have a piece of paper to help me force someone to stay with me bigsmile


so are you saying that people who get married are insecure?

how does that piece of paper 'force' someone to stay with another?


No, people get married because they have been told that is the right thing to do...the only way to define their love (and they have no other legal options) It started out as a moral thing (which I question) and ended up as a legal thing (which I question even more). My biggest issue is how did a RELIGIOUS CEREMONY turn into a LEGAL CONTRACT and why should I accept this as the only way it should be? Why cannot I or anyone for that matter have the right to declare ourselves bound to another in matrimony by our own definition of ceremony?


Oh, and I can't belive you do not recognize the hold a marriage license has on people once a relationship dies and they are left to either stay in an unhappy situation or totally throw themselves onto the mercy of this countrie's court system LOL

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Sun 05/09/10 04:03 PM

you don't have to make any point with me.

i'm not interested in what you, or anyone else, feels about marriage. if you all aren't interested in being married, that is your business.

for me, it (marriage and all that it entails) is the proper and honourable thing to do.

what i see is that people who don't wish to be married, get all in an uproar about how useless a piece of paper is. if it isn't all that important to someone, what's the big deal about just getting married? why the need to bash the piece of paper, the contract, the government, etc.? me thinks thou doth protest too much - and all that.

Spoken by someone who hasn't been burned. It is a nice thought however.....


believe me, i have been burned. but i don't come on these sites and whine about how bad my ex-husband was, especially since i was just as much at fault for the demise as he was. i just keep that sort of stuff private.






I agree. I still think it is a nice thought.....flowerforyou

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Sun 05/09/10 04:11 PM

[No, people get married because they have been told that is the right thing to do...the only way to define their love (and they have no other legal options) It started out as a moral thing (which I question) and ended up as a legal thing (which I question even more). My biggest issue is how did a RELIGIOUS CEREMONY turn into a LEGAL CONTRACT and why should I accept this as the only way it should be? Why cannot I or anyone for that matter have the right to declare ourselves bound to another in matrimony by our own definition of ceremony?


YOU don't have to accept anything but neither do you get to try to convince me that my beliefs have no relevance or merit.

Oh, and I can't belive you do not recognize the hold a marriage license has on people once a relationship dies and they are left to either stay in an unhappy situation or totally throw themselves onto the mercy of this countrie's court system LOL


so are you saying that you don't want something which binds you together? is that so you can run off easier when the going gets tough?



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Sun 05/09/10 04:17 PM
Edited by lilangel2 on Sun 05/09/10 04:22 PM


[No, people get married because they have been told that is the right thing to do...the only way to define their love (and they have no other legal options) It started out as a moral thing (which I question) and ended up as a legal thing (which I question even more). My biggest issue is how did a RELIGIOUS CEREMONY turn into a LEGAL CONTRACT and why should I accept this as the only way it should be? Why cannot I or anyone for that matter have the right to declare ourselves bound to another in matrimony by our own definition of ceremony?


YOU don't have to accept anything but neither do you get to try to convince me that my beliefs have no relevance or merit.

Sorry,but In this country, the way things stand ,I DO have to accept that the only way I can be declared bound in matrimony to someone is through a Government contract. And I am not trying to say your beliefs have no relevance or merit to you. I am just stating that mine do to and I am showing why mine does.

Oh, and I can't belive you do not recognize the hold a marriage license has on people once a relationship dies and they are left to either stay in an unhappy situation or totally throw themselves onto the mercy of this countrie's court system LOL


so are you saying that you don't want something which binds you together? is that so you can run off easier when the going gets tough?



My heart is enough to bind me.:smile:

No, I don't need a piece of paper...never will I need that to BIND me to anyone...why would I???


I'd rather use shackles, and handcuffs and a blindfold LMAObigsmile



papersmile's photo
Sun 05/09/10 04:21 PM
that's great - for you

for me, i'd like our hearts AND a marriage contract to bind me.

lilangel2's photo
Sun 05/09/10 04:23 PM
Edited by lilangel2 on Sun 05/09/10 04:23 PM

that's great - for you

for me, i'd like our hearts AND a marriage contract to bind me.


And you are lucky...cause the system is set up for what you want...I got to lobby LMAObigsmile

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Sun 05/09/10 04:30 PM
i guess you've got to join the gays and lesbians in their fight to re-define the word marriage huh? laugh