It's NORMAL to disagree. The point is others DON'T have to agree or
accept your opinion but need to respect it.

That goes for both sides. You need to respect others and the responses
you get that may not be what you want to see or read.

Maybe I can stop being angry when you give up your double standards, and
in case you didn't notice, I hardly posted at all here because of your
double standards.
When spider is allowed to argue AB's opinion, then AB should be allowed
the same, without boredchick jumping in, saying there we go again.

That's why I didn't post much, I was just watching, and that is what I
saw.

From what I saw AGAIN you do the same from the past. When Red, Abra, AB,
or jesse make a post you JUMP in.

You accuse me of what you do also. I'm willing to admit I do some things
like respond in anger because I believe when you're honest with
yourself, you can be honest with others better.

I'm sorry you don't want to post because of me. I'll consider not say
anything during those times of disagreement but I did it to indicate
specifically the point where the discussion becomes a debate to help
prevent it perhaps

No one is perfect here. I feel you are missing the point. To improve
communication we have evalute our own actions and then others.

I have to go soon, to study for an exam. Thank you for posting.

paragraph 2 may not make sense

I just woke up. So let me clarify

"I believe in being honest with your own mistakes and actions because it
shows maturity. It shows that you aren't attacking but aware of your own
mistakes as well as others. It can help more before pointing the finger
at others. "

sorry sleepy

Once again a post is sidetracked, by those who wish to debate who is
doing what. Posts are for debating/arguing about the post TOPIC not
which child can scream loudest. These are rules posted at the top of
each section. Please stay on topic in the future and stop HIJACKING
Threads.

gryphn "hijacking" or when users address concerns happens occasionally
on this site. A few posts ago I tried to highlight the importance of
this topic then it was interrupted.

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Somtimes this NEEDS to happen to settle differences or misunderstandings
to get back to the purpose of the topic.
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i'm sleepy too

Gryph - I really liked your post, I was going to email and ask if it
would be ok to copy it to the topic 'calling all Christians', but then,
considered that you just might have seen it already. Yes, you did. A
quick check of that thread shows me you have already added it.
THANKS.

Spider, when I saw your topic I was quite interested. It was the
questions you posed that did not make sense. I felt there were much
more pertinent questions that might be answered.

Your recent response,

"" but for some reason many people on these forums still labor
under those misconceptions. I hoped that by posting this thread, I could
clarify these misunderstandings and we could move past them and actually
discuss issues for a change."""

explains your reasons for this post. Sir, without disrespect, I must
tell you that what your were doing, based on your response was
attempting, as you always do, to mold all of Christianity into the
Spider concept of belief. This is why you constantly see error or
conflict or argument. It is not the questions.

If you make a point and present it well, which you do, others get it.
When someone makes a comment on it, indicating that they have another
opinion, you do not need to continue to make them 'understand'. There
is a difference between understanding and opinion.

I saw your attempt with this topic to be an honest one but I thought it
was weak. I posted other questions, I thought more appropriate and I
DID ask for answers. You, however, came back with further explanation
or substantiation of your Q & A.

You are the one not getting past it. We are still here posting with
you. Your points in discussion are almost always well made. Unless you
see a direct question or a response that clearly shows your post being
twisted, move on. Remember that one's opinion about your post is often
opinion based on something OTHER than your post. They will never
accept your point of view no matter how much or how often you explain
it.

I guess the point I'm making, Spider, is that you need to discern when a
valid error regarding your post has taken place and when a response is
simply another's opinion. A lack of acceptance of your thorough and
well versed explanation, did not change that in someone. This is not
failure, this is discussion.

As I stated above, I have moved my set of questions to another thread
'calling all Christians'. I would be happy if you participated.
Perhaps after reading some of the responses you will see that the
'discussion' there shows many sides of the Christian belief and they are
not all as you view them.

Redykeulous,

Eljay gave you excellent answers to your questions. I agreed with his
answers in your thread. I see no reason to elaborate. The questions
are answered correctly from a protestant Christian perspective, with
which my personal beliefs are in line. I don't have my own brand of
Christianity, it is called Protestant Christianity and is believed by
many millions of people.

Since I felt that Eljay had properly answered your questions AND I
posted in your thread saying so, I didn't see any reason for me to
readdress them. I guess I could put the answers in my own words, but I
don't see a reason for the repetition.

I feel that you, like invisible and others, expect me to exhibit the
same bad behavior that I have in the past. I have moved on, that part
of me is in the process of dying. I am not here to argue or debate, I
am a messenger. I will deliver my message and allow you to think about
or disagree with the message at your lesure.

God bless.

>> I feel that you, like invisible and others, expect me to exhibit the same bad behavior that I have in the past.

It seems a fundamental fact of human psychology that simply changing
one's behavior is not be enough to prevent the other party from
continuing responses to past behavior. People tend to categorize,
label, and become attached to their labels. People tend to invest
emotional energy into their view, and emotions have inertia.

massagetrade,

I understand that, which is why I will continue to apologize and attempt
to make amends, while exercising self-control and not responding with
venom and thoughtless words. I have faith that they will eventually
accept the new me, but schemata take time to break down and
recategorize.

hey massage hey spider

..

Thanks Spider. I'm sorry, I did not see your post in agreement until
after I made the one here. In fact, tonight I've finally had some
time to do some reading here so I'm catching up.

Peace back to you Spider, thanks for the thread.

Hi Bored!
Hi Red!

Hello, I'm new!


I like this topic. I'm a protestant.

Welcome, Dancerchick! Any thoughts you'd like to add?

Well I've read the other posts by spider the forum starter and what I
get from it is that it reflects what misconceptions on christianity he
may see from the other topic forums.

I see when there are differences among users there are often many
misunderstandings.

True that.