??? since when did the bible become THE source of inequality,, I dont understand the logic here,,,


does society at large(religious or non) usually see a criminal as equal to a law abiding citizen? do we not usually see a terrorist as equal to child? people are different and differences will always be seen as unequal because THAT is how the mind works.....


People can misuse the bible, but teaching the bible or love for humankind, God, Jesus, or self are far from criminal. To say telling children about devil and God is bordering on criminal because it has nothing to do with caring for all as equals is like condoning abolishing the laws of the land because people who make different choices are treated differently or that telling them there are good and bad choices is a bad thing and therefore not EQUAL

I think God , the Bible, the quran, Allah, or whatever belief system people have is used as a scapegoat for the genuine human flaws that humankind has had since day one.

and darling, that is exactely and precisley what i intent to do, and shall tear them all down, just the like the ole good book that but foretold human history said, the temples TORE DOWN, and indeed, god did rest on the seventh day, so if god rest on the seventh day, then certainly satan rest as well, lol....

if god and satan rest, such simply meant the POWER of these BELIEFS, that CREATE THE THINKING, OR MARK IN THE FOREHEAD, THAT MAKE HANDS KILL!!!

for it did also say, peace would reign on earth for a thousand years, and precisley what the myan as well meant with the "lineal time" calender ending....

oh, make no mistake, each coward in the universe shall be exposed for what they are....

exposed to whom and for what purpose?

if one has to ask, why a coward would or should be exposed, and to whom, then one know's nothing about love, nor justice, nor commoon good, nor of preservation of the spieces, for cowards are exposed each day, and penalized by the laws of the land, each and every second, are they not???

and did u wish for a list of all the cowardly deeds of the universe???

well, lets see, a child molester is a coward, a greedy corrupt man is a coward, a murderer is a coward, a rapist is a coward, a child pedophile, an illegal drug supplier be a coward, a terrorist, a person whom thinks other's of differentr religions are less, ....

damn girl, thats a pretty long list, lol....

perhaps running a google search for coward would be best....

bizarre question, being such things are happening here and around the world each day

in case u had not noticed, cowards hurt people, and teach hate and bigotry, so i would say that would be the divine and just purpose to root out cowards, which be to solve humanity, create peace???

is that not supposed to be the goal of all, as we all create the environement we live in do we not???

is not a belief in "god" supposed to be about "creating peace"???

how can their be peace, if there is no insight as to what create no peace???

I was referring to 'all cowards'

specific examples of criminal acts is a bit more obvious as they are revealed to the law for the justice system to dispense justice upon,,however, there are MANY examples of cowardry that are not at all illegal,,,


these are the remainder of cowards I was referring to,, for those who may be 'cowardly' but who are not criminal,,,what will be the purpose in exposing they are cowards?

Well, you continue to fight. I choose to continue trying to make peace.

I will always fight to defend my rights (and anyone else's) to believe and practice the religion they feel is right for them. But, I will not attack or tear down another's beliefs. It is up to each individual to seek their own truth.

if one fight to create peace, because it want peace for itseelf, or for some, then it's own brain will not provide it the data to see what actually keeps peace from occuring???

one cannot create peace, by simply appeasing all things that create no peace, for if one is truly fighting for peace for all, not one, not some, then it will be able to see down to the most microscopic level, what stand in the way, which is a much larger picture, than saying "leave people alone", for all people effect all other people, as all are connected, so what ALL believe, effect the entirety of what ALL create together???

to ignore what create negative motives, negative happening, withinj society, can never solve any negative that exist???

unseen motives create all that exist, so what "create" the motive of living things as humans, is of the greatest essence, in any fight to create peace amoung all???

if belief's, create a "singular motive most", then what be created???

heaven and hell, god and satan, certainly induce the human brain to a singular objective, a motive most to procure "good" reward. for self, in this life, or in some afterlife???

can any happiness exist within a human living thing, if it stare most at itself???

happy people DO NOT COMMITT CRIMES???

it is impossible, to ever access the self unto self happiness, and the very teaching of god and satan induce this all the more natural; tendency, which is an opposite direction than towards self happiness....

if something wish to be happy, and it live with more than two on the earth, than it has to be taught how to create COMMON HAPPINESS, mutual respect of the mutual want, which cannot occur, if many wants arte deemed "evil" simply for the sake of some wished "self holiness", or self pride, or self betterment alone???

education of what actually be "logical" has to be inputed into the human mind, for at this point in time, the "proposed" logic that exist, is simply founded on "what" each singular thing "most believe in as good", and these were first founded on a notion of unbalanced principle, that "what self like", is most what is "good"....

this in total essence, creates the "moral code" based upon what self then does NOT LIKE, for it's singular self???

how can this be any basis for common good???

what is believed, totally determine what is created, IN ALL CASES???

no child molester molest, lest it believe such will make itself happy???

no thief will steal unless it believe such will make itself happy???

no human will rape, unless it believe such will make itself happy???

no human drive to the store, unless it believe it can arrive at the store???

no human do one action of the day, not soley determined by what it "believe most", at any second of the day???

so to not have anby care about what belief will create, is to not be able to solve anything, EVER???

so if something is not willing to challenge, what is believed, if it has no other alternative but to create **** **** and more ****, for one and for all, SINCE AGAIN, IT IS ALL FOR ONE AND ONE FOR ALL ON THE HUMAN PLANET, WHETHER IT BE DULY ACKNOWLEDGED OR NOT, than it actually show there is not insight of what common good actually be, nor of what can create it, so then, no sight of what actually is NOT OF COMMON GOOD???

how do we live in an "individual world" if there is MORE THAN ONE???

the only thing that could say such, is one that want no one challenging it's own belief, so this then make one decide it is good to do this all other's outside of itself???

can not challenging belief's, or having them scrutinized, or debated, or challenged, ever create common good for all???

IMPOSSIBLE!!!

IN ALL CASES AT ALL TIMES!!!

what if the president say something is good, what itself believe will make good for all???

it should not be challenged???

what if the boos says what it believe's, will create common good for all employee's???

should it not be challenged???

what if dad say to child, sex with children is of god???

should it not be challenged???

what if husband tell wife she is to be submissive unto him???

should it not be challenged???

well, the wise wife would say no problem, as lkong as you are submissive to me as well, lol....

for what be a wise leader, that insist another do, what itself be not willing to do???

the president holds the fate and life of many in his hands???

is it good to not challenge???

such has been taught, and is easily accpeted, by anythuing that wants itself not challenged???

can one not see, this will create total chaos???

total tyrnanny run free???

total corruption to run free, with no accountability, FOR THERE IS NOTHING TO STOP IT!!!???

AND NOTHING WANTS TO STOP IT, "IF" IT DOES NOT WANT IT'S OWN PERSONAL GREED, OR OWN ACTIONS, HELD AGAINST ITSELF???

WHAT WILL THIS HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO CREATE WITHIN ANY SOCIETY???

turn a blind eye, to all that is less than good, for self to proucre what itself alone most want, which be no accountabiltiy unto it's fellow man, all fellow man, not just what agree's with self???

and what propogate such INTENSELY???

first the notion taught, that self live in a specific way now, to attain a reward for itself in the afterlife???

this in itself, teach absolutely no accountability for one's actions now, or any essence of undoing what self did to have negative effect on it's neighbor's???

one is on earth to learn how to get what it wants, as long as it does not come at the expense of it's own fellow man being taken from to enrich self, or with no regard for the consequence, which simply be effect, of self on another in all ways, and for what one buys or sells to enrich itself???

a total recipe for hypocrisy to have to exist, for hypocisy be created, for one wanting NO ACCOUNTABILITY unto fellow man, over what itself do to procure for itself most???

such apathy, and indulgment of belief, any belief, create lawlessness and fighting and bickering in a beginning, which each day then increase the purported need for more laws, until a people's that wanted self singular want indulged, actually themself create an environment where there is no self indulgment actually left to be had for all, by not seeing such is NOT EVER OF COMMON GOOD....

and such embraced create and allow an environment where the most powerful, set the standard of freedom of indulgment, based upon the power entities belief of what good indulgment is for itself, which will always create TOTAL SOCIAL ECONOMIC DIVIDE, in time so great, that nothing can jump the divide, as the circles of power, will maintain the hoops needed to be jumped thru, for anything to invade it's own circle of power???

and such things are not to be challenged???

please....

all such things stem and are first created, by the belief, and the belief in centered in the principal's of the belief, that suite what one wants, so, they are believed in to get what "oneself ultimatley wants"???

or see's as good for itself, and the worst case, seen as what one wants in the afterlife, which is incredulous to even begin to surmize, since self has no idea what such life will be like, if such is deemed to exsit, since it has not yet arrived there to decide, lol....

challenge not belief???

for indeed, the followers of the good ole book, most follow a man or percieved god called "jesus', which ****ing challenged every belief that existed, and would seem the very essence in the story of why he was killed, if such human actually is believed to ahve existed in reality???

so either way, in all cases, to not challenge belief, is for sheer ignorance to run amock....

perhaps we should not have challenged the earth as flat either, for that was a firm belief???

perhaps we should not have challenged a belief, that endorsed the burning of purported witches???

perhaps we should not have challenged or SPOKE BAD ABOUT THEM???

PERHAPS WE SHOULD NOT "SPEAK BAD" ABOUT SUICIDE BOMBER'S, WHOM KILL PEOPLE???

PERHAPS WE SHOULD NOT "SPEAK OR OUT DOWN" THE KKK, WHO MURDERED AND BURNED MANY OF ONE'S OWN FELLOW MAN???

PLEASE, SUCH IS TOTAL SELF APATHY, FOR THE SAKE OF NOT HAVING TO TAKE A STAND, HOPING AS THE OLD SAYING GOES, EVBERYTHING WILL TURN OUT ALRIGHT, IT ALWAYS DOES???

********, WE CREATE WHAT EXIST ON THE PLANET, and if bad happen, then IT IS UP TO WHAT IS NOT COWARDLY, OR JUST THINKS OF WHAT ITSELF WANT MOST, THAT KEEP SUCH FROM HAPPENING AGAIN???

perhaps we should not have challenged hitler???

perhaps no "bad speak", BELIEVED IN, IS WHAT FIRST CREATED, A MENTAILITY, THAT ALLOWED HITLER TO AQUIRE POWER TO DESTROY!!!???

such cannot create common peace ever, and is simply the minds way of making itself justified, and to believe itself is a good person, and a loving person....

as indeed, such belief that such is most good, only exist when and if one itself wants no "bad speak" about itself, which indeed, show a total inclination, and even hate, for anything that speak about somehting not most good about the self entity, showing no true caring about other's, or there would be a want to see and know one's effect if "negative", which if there is not, totally show no true wanted accountability to it's own fellow man, for if one does not wish to hear how itself effect it's fellow man, then this first create the insideous notion that "bad speak" is bad, or somehow that this is not of good???

what that care can care, if it wish not to hear how itself does not care???

impossible, but the belief and religions foster these motives within the human brain, compelling it to all to easily, somehow think itself saved, or better, or righteouss, even when it's own fellow man constantly show and tell how self actions and words are no0t of true caring, lol....

how does such not create the notion that one answer's to a higher power, that no one can see, and not to it's own fellow man, as this indeed, is what led the great inquistions, in their genocide of millions of their own fellow man???

and we say, do not challenge belief???

and we say, speak nothing bad about anyone???

this could only ever work, if there was nothing except total peace and harmony in the world, and all can see, that is not the case???

and even if there was total peace and harmmony in the world, then the ONLY THING THAT COULD "KEEP IT", would be speaking up about what would steal it???

no freedom can be maintained or created by governing entities, IF THERE IS NO CHALLENGE OF BELIEF, as such create a motive within the people itself, to follow to get what self want, that make all power to willing to envoke any laws to create and perpetuate a need for power itself to exist, SO AGAIN, TO NOT CHALLENGE, IS THE ESSENCE OF LOSING ONE'S OWN FREEDOM???

peoples become all to willing to embrace anything, if in return, they are GIVEN SINGULAR WANT, or the freedom they see individually as freedom, but indeed, freedom of environment, be first freedom of mind, which come first from a belief that know how to create the most freedom for all, which cannot exist with many religions, do what most???

trying to lead mankind???

such has to be a motive created, if one say belief is to be protected, as BELIEF IS ALL ONE THINK IS TRUE, NOT JUST SOME RELIGION, and what is not most true, cannot be protected, or there is no truth at all in due time even recognized to exist???

religions or doctines or dogma do not even first begin to care about common good for all, as each is motivated to only want what itself believes, to be ENDORSED BY THE MAINSTREAM, OR TO MAKE ALL CONVERTS TO IT'S OWN CAUSES, NO MATTER HOW SUCH CAUSE EFFECT ALL OTHER'S EQUALLY???

this in itself, CAN NEVER ALLOW PEACE, AS WILL THIS NOT CREATE CONSTANT FIGHTING ABOUT WHICH BELIEF IS BEST, AND MOST GOOD???

so how can not challenging belief, or not speaking bad about it, to increase the insight of all, about what is most good for all, EVER MAKE PEACE!!!???

it leaves all that created no peace, STILL IN PLAY, IF THE GREAT WAR OF BELIEF'S???

so the belief, has to be challenged, if it is seen how such will create less than best for who???

for all???

the monetary gain, that laws based upon religious notions, first created and bring into the coffers of the religious ruling entities, is a ulterior motive in the beginning, and such was used to establish the governing of governments, therefore controlling the pocketbooks of governments???

this be one of the most insideous motivations that once established entire governments, so again, to not challenge, IN ALL CASES, MAKES BAD HISTORY ABLE TO HAPPEN AGAIN, AND AGAIN, AND AGAIN???

there is not way, to truly found peace, unless there is COMMON AND TOTAL AGREEMENT ABOUT WHAT IS "COMMON GOOD"???

what religions even believe in such???

they are not willing to give up any belief, based on agreement of ALL, not just their own sect, and even oin the good book, it say to find agreement of all, to create what will not fail???

we don't even hear about "common good", BECAUSE IT IS NOT OF ANY COMMON CONCERN???

leaders speak of "american's" suffering, AND THE FACT THAT IT IS NEVER "WE ARE SUFFERING", show there is no inclusion of the self into and with the people, so no insight within, or motive within, of all as one, or sight of common good for all???

it is not all as one, AND NEVER HAS BEEN, and this in itself recognized, be the first step in changing such things, for what that actually think as such, speak as such, will create common good for all, instead of for it's own family most, or it's own group most, or for it's own economic group most, or it's own BELIEF group most???

again, why BELIEF'S MUST BE CHALLENGED, OR WE STAY IN THE DARK AGES, WHERE ALL BAD HAPPEN AGAIN???

SHEER DEBAUCHERY UNTO INFINITY, is the only thing that can be created with such motive's at play, THAT ALL BELIEF HAS TO CREATE, and left unchallenged, leave the world as we know it increase all that is less than desired for all....

religion fosters most, to the most maximum degree, a creating of apathy, even apathy for unsanity, as if the mind "believe's" it does not have to be accocuntable to ANYTHING, that is tangible, like it's fellow man, than it is LEFT FREE TO BELIEVE WHAT ITSELF MOST WANT IS TRUE, WHICH IS TO BELIEVE ANYTHING THAT IS WISHED, WITH NO LOGICAL DEDUCTION EVEN USED, TO SEE WHAT IT WILL CREATE BY BELIEVING IT, NOT HAVING TO FACE HOW SUCH COULD OR WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO OTHER'S WITHIN SOCIETY....

THIS IN ITSELF, ALL EVIDENCE, OR SCIENCE, SHOW'S AND TELL'S, HOW SUCH HATH NO OTHER CHOICE, BUT TO CREATE A TOTAL STATE OF SELF DELUSION IN DUE TIME, that leads to just what exist now, no sight of why **** is happening over and over???

to repeat the same action's, expecting a different result???

unsanity???

certainly apathy and appeasment of "believe whatver you want", i am of peace, i won't question you, is most not of true peace???

Actually Funches - this is totally contradictory to what is biblical. God does not "force" anyone - he merely states what is already known to have happened by one who stands outside and beyond the constraints of time. That is why the bible says what it says, because it already happened.

Seriously....I am really lost reading this. I'm not exactly sure what your point is except that it is good to challenge what you are taught. I never said that wasn't good. I said I don't attack and I allow people to practice the religion of their choice and I ask the same of them. You are very emotional about this and I'm having a hard time understanding you and I'm not sure why you are mad at me.

Seriously....I am really lost reading this. I'm not exactly sure what your point is except that it is good to challenge what you are taught. I never said that wasn't good. I said I don't attack and I allow people to practice the religion of their choice and I ask the same of them. You are very emotional about this and I'm having a hard time understanding you and I'm not sure why you are mad at me


I would also point out that a paragraph should be sufficient for
someone to open a conversation with or about,,and pages should be refined to long time friends,,wink, Just a thought here??

Personally,,I to agree with YOUR thoughts as for Live and LET LIVE??
As ones personal preference as to their GOD or their WAYS,,is solely
their own!! But THATS just my opinions....wink.

Exactly. I've never learned anything new from someone who was "preaching" to me. From any side of the religious views. I went out and sought the answers from people when I formed the question in my mind for myself. No one is going to stop what they are believing because someone attacks their beliefs. However, people will come around asking for information if you just let them know you have it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypocrisy

Does everyone have to make things so Hard?

Learn how to Live Life as simple as that seems

Who care about one side or the other,this human body i have now,is just a shell that covers my soul!

Many words?

You find Peace within,nothing else will change it...

For you are who you shall be,an you can only teach if you carry peace from within

If you believe ,then don't paste an copy...

Speak,an defend in your own words!

That is what make us Human,a man.
If i counted on the bible.
Eve came from the rib of Adam?
It words just written.
I i have my own belief,who knows if it is correct,

But it is mine,i'm not going into great detail about it,or push it onto another,it mine.An that is the way i believe,an to this point!!!

What have i clarifid about my belief system,Nothing?

But as i see,who really care,for it is my own thoughts,an not to be overpowered with Quotes from Another...

Like:
Take your A$$ an bend over an smell the Flowers,cause someday they will bending over to smell the flowers on your grave site

Life is a B*tch,an you just deal with it!!!

Eljay ...according to the bible God "rested" on the seventh day...why would a God that was beyond time need to rest ...

also Revelations isn't about what has already happened ...it's about what is supposed to take place ...this is why Satan has no choice and has been forced by God to particiapate ...it's called God's Divine Plan

lol....funny, funny, funny, how the live & let live humdrums have no insight what steal and rob and pillage a place where all can live and let live, so such not deserving a place where all can live and let live, for such care not enough to even bigin to fight for anything but itself, seeing not what actually create a place where all can live and let live, and so do not one thing to maintain a environment where freedom to speak is embraced, for where the freedom to speak be alive, the opposing side of the coin must be alive, the challening of all things once thought, or the mind sleep the deep sleep of no pin prick, content in it's place that itself has established, where it believe no one can reach it to prick it's reality, for each jot and tittle that be written, that appease not itself, words that which ignorance cannot understand, is stricken from the record of the mind, creating but another proof to the self delusional brain, convincing itself that itself hath profound knowing, which hath but created a tower of bable of mind speak unto the heavens and hell, thatbe built on but sheer ignorance, a tower of cards, that shall come crumbling down....

all the "live & let live" philosophy, but these that mind speak such, are not one ounce happy with allowing me to live & post & write as i see fit, for with each word there is but motivation to prove how it's own way be best, lol....

to live and let live, create exactely what exist today, unsanity and delusion run amock, but if it reach not self's door, it even pray for no change, for that would mean self would have to change it's entire way of life, and actually do something about it, lol...

so the complacent sleeper's deserve exactely what their own mouth and hands provide them, nothing but illusions, sheer ignorance presented to all, to convicne all they are not dead, and have intelligence within, but they cut themselves over and over just to feel alive....

for what wish to live & let live, simply request no accountability from it's fellow man, and consider itself comfortable and knowing, simply because nothing threaten it's immediate comfort, and cannot see that without all environmental feedback taken into the brain as accurate, the brain has led itself over time but to selective hearing, having no choice but to lead itself into the self abyss, the place where darkness overwhelmed so slowly, that there was no wish nor request for light, and so such live in a place of no honor, which be no true caring, except still for individual self first and foremost, the brain having convinced itself that itself be supreme, therefore bring itself to hate and despsie anything that challenge it to anything better, for it has found false peace in living in apathy and complaceny, where it but "believe's" itself be safe, where it live as a suspect of itself at all times, for it hath given up it's courage in exchange for a sense of false self pride, and therefore find most and all outside words as meaningless, unless they be of the same apathetic mind of itself, making itself feel any not in apathy be suspect and enemy to itself in all ways, for a long long time ago, in a day and place lonjg gone by, such sold out unto themselves for the sake of wishing and wanting to be loved, and for to be served, thinking this would convince itself it be loved, being convinced by the self want that itself should even be worshipped, all seeing and telling and spewing forth how incredible such a being as itself was, surmizing in the mind how such way was good, ande since each day, less and less worhsipped the these of self love, then it was decided if no one would worship self "properly", then self would have to do it itself, and it became a frightful creature with no ear's, waering protective covering for it's eye's, living the drone and clone life without passion, in a minds place where self believe clutch it's belief with a deathgrip, for it be what was once taught unto it that should keep it safe, and indeed it does, keeping safe from all change, awh, but then nothing changes not, so indeed it does change, for the worse and more each day....


yea, hypocrisy???

when one cannot see that it's words & belief it does not itself even practice.

for out of one side of the mouth, come mind speak about what one wish itself be, and out of the other side, come the tell that it is not, lol....

carry on ye self appointed saints of regurgetated knowledge, that wish for all to allow itself to live and let live, so that self can sleep and snore comfortably in pseudo self peace, while tyrants and rapists and murders and child molester's and women beaters and corruption maine and kill and destroy one's own fellow man, sleep sleep sleep, until bitter reality come and awaken with a startle, unto what self but wished was not true, and hoped was not true, so simply believed was not true, proving to itself somehow if it could find some speck or fault, this be good reason why words itself despised should not be believed, lol....

and the drones of complaceny, that had food to eat, and electricity to comfort them, and friends to validate them, and soothe their self pain and apathy, marched on and on, not seeing the trojan horse that itself had built to travel in, was but it's own will and despise of the percieved negative, but the horse caught fire from the outside, for it was not built with stones of true certainty but with wishes and whims that build all self individual empires, that hated to hear any negative feedback that might implicate it's suspect apathetic self, since it didn't matter if there was failure, because it be only most about them anyhow, so the lives effected by the deaf ear's, there was and be no insight of at all....

carry carry carry, on on on, for it be but a spell spell spell, that make the mind long long long, to but hear what it wish wish wish....

the time of smiles be past for a time and spell, for the brains of earth shall be lowered unto the dust of the earth, to be fed apathy and no regard, when itself cry out for mercy and relief, when itself be imprisoned by it's enemies, to allow tasting of the same apathy, that was wished and embraced for itself, while itself sat eating and dining and dating and playing, whilst it's fellow man was run thru by swords and famine and corruption.

welcome to 2012, for as the collective thought energies of collective man hath reached the threshhold of brain capacity with the natural increase in popluation totals, so shall the inability to control the brains that man itself has programmed unto apapthy with but wishes and dreams of what reality be, and the bubble's shall burst, spewing forth the hot lava into the streets, since human man hath been convinced it's self pride be it's greatest friend, not seeing how it be one's own worst nightmare come alive.