Topic: Is God an Atheist
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Wed 01/20/10 09:14 AM

Okay big guy don't twist my words around ya know what I meant. Which was only my interpretation of the way I would take that statement. bigsmile


You see no matter how the words are wrote. There can be several meanings to them. Therefore I'm not saying your wrong nor am I saying that I'm wrong for within reality we both could be right. bigsmile










TsxGsal....technically we are both right....believers are not supposed to worship false Gods or any other Gods....but this is not an admission by God that no other Gods exist ...

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Wed 01/20/10 09:17 AM



yes and this can go on for hours. Only person that would win on this note would be the one that can read the original writings of the bible and not depending on translations.


Cowboy...are you also claiming that what written or translated in the bible is inaccurate? ....where have your faith gone my child


No, and another thing poppped into my mind. Just like in todays world, for most people money is God for them. So that would be the same as those people in the time Jesus came to earth. The gods they were worshipping were "THEIR" gods. Does not meen they were true Gods. Cause i know money isn't truely a god but it is God to most people in this world these days.


Cowboy...for anyone that doesn't live in the forest eating fruits and berries among the woodlen creatures then money is God

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Wed 01/20/10 09:17 AM
Even Satan belives in God- He has seen God!

He just CHOSE not to follow God and his desire was to raise his own following and serve his own agenda.

The word "gods" in the Bible, could mean many things. Whether it be money, food, sex, your job ,car or home...whatever...It is whatever you place the most importance on in your life....

And yes in some translations the ancient words had different meanings
than they do in modern language.

Example -Gay USED to mean happy now it means something totally different.

That has nothing to do with "faith"
My question is what side are you on?...Seems you just want to argue and that is hardly Gods purpose for His word.


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Wed 01/20/10 09:28 AM

Even Satan belives in God- He has seen God!


Greeneyedlady....Satan doesn't "believe" ..supposedly Satan "knows" that an entity exist that claim to be a God, but if it was truely a God Satan wouldn't have tried to take his throne


And yes in some translations the ancient words had different meanings
than they do in modern language.


but the bible is God's word...so where have your faith gone


Example -Gay USED to mean happy now it means something totally different.


so in the christmas song "Deck The Halls"...when it gets to the part "now we don our gay apparrel"....they wasn't taking about drag queens

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Wed 01/20/10 09:45 AM
Hummm Okay Funches hehe after doing a bit of research here. Which yeah I'm pretty good at looking things up when one puts the doubt in my mind.

I will admit and do not have a problem with it that your knowledge far surpasses mine when it comes to the Bible.


So after doing some looking I will admit that God did not call them false Gods. Nor did he say he was the only God.


Instead Jesus himself said "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." (Matthew 4:10).



One thing I can do is admit when I'm wrong. On the other hand, if one never admits when they are wrong, you will not be able to convince anyone of your position when in a discussion. You will simply lose the respect of the one with whom you are debating.bigsmile




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Wed 01/20/10 09:45 AM
No they were talking about drag queens. They were talking about clothing worn during celebrations, decorations etc.

And if you read the book of Job
Satan went to God and asked permission to put Job through
Great turmoil, believing that Job would curse God and turn his back on God. God told Satan you can do what you will, but you cannot take his life. Job proved God in the end as everything he had was taken but then restored beyond even what he started out with.

So yes Satan does know who God is- and He knows HE is God. He just wants to be more powerful- which will not happen because we know what happens in the end.


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Wed 01/20/10 09:53 AM
Im am not here to argue "religion"...or prove religion. I am not religious...
I belive religion is tradition-(a repetative action that is expected). and Jesus came to break traditions. He was about faith fo the heart.
I am a spirit filled believer...
I am not as knowledgable about Gods word as I should be...
Having read Gods word I cannot always tell you where verses are found even tho I know they are there. That does not make me less of a beliver it just means I need to study harder.

There is still alot yet for me to learn....
However I do know when I see someone who is trying to
convince me of something that I know (for me personally) is not true.
You wont create doubt for me in my beliefs because I am steadfast and unmoveable.

I do appreciate your right to chose in what you believe in-
Just as I have my right to chose what I believe.

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Wed 01/20/10 10:36 AM

Instead Jesus himself said "Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve." (Matthew 4:10).


Jesus is telling believers that they better serve his God, it can even be interpeted that Jesus is acknowledging the possible existence of others Gods



One thing I can do is admit when I'm wrong. On the other hand, if one never admits when they are wrong, you will not be able to convince anyone of your position when in a discussion. You will simply lose the respect of the one with whom you are debating.bigsmile


does that also apply to God?





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Wed 01/20/10 10:49 AM

No they were talking about drag queens. They were talking about clothing worn during celebrations, decorations etc.

And if you read the book of Job
Satan went to God and asked permission to put Job through
Great turmoil, believing that Job would curse God and turn his back on God. God told Satan you can do what you will, but you cannot take his life. Job proved God in the end as everything he had was taken but then restored beyond even what he started out with.

So yes Satan does know who God is- and He knows HE is God. He just wants to be more powerful- which will not happen because we know what happens in the end.




Greeneyedlady...if you know anything about the bible you would know never to use the "Book of "JOB" for an example for anything besides providing proof that God is evil..it show how Satan easily dupped God into allowing others to break his own commandments "thou shalt not kill"

it displays how God is willing to let the innocent die to promote his vanity ..if places Satan into a role of the Messiah by showing the human race that God cares nothing for them beyond being a robot soul

DEBATE 101 .....if you are a believer.....never use "The Book of Job" in a debate

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Wed 01/20/10 10:53 AM

Im am not here to argue "religion"...or prove religion. I am not religious...
I belive religion is tradition-(a repetative action that is expected). and Jesus came to break traditions. He was about faith fo the heart.
I am a spirit filled believer...
I am not as knowledgable about Gods word as I should be...
Having read Gods word I cannot always tell you where verses are found even tho I know they are there. That does not make me less of a beliver it just means I need to study harder.

There is still alot yet for me to learn....
However I do know when I see someone who is trying to
convince me of something that I know (for me personally) is not true.
You wont create doubt for me in my beliefs because I am steadfast and unmoveable.

I do appreciate your right to chose in what you believe in-
Just as I have my right to chose what I believe.


Greeneyedlady...the question "Is God an Atheist" doesn't require anyone to have or not to have a religious belief.... it is no different than asking "Is Jesus a Christian" whether he is or isn't doesn't require one to change their beliefs to answer the question

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Wed 01/20/10 01:04 PM
You sir are in my prayers. I hope you enjoy your day.

Opinions are like belly buttons -every one has one...
Mine is-
That I hope one day you do not find out that there is a God,
only after it is too late.

I am so sorry that you feel I need a lesson from you on the book of JOB.
I will not argue with you.


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Wed 01/20/10 01:39 PM
No, YHWH is not an atheist. You quoted it yourself, Funches "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". So He admits there are other gods, but he is top god, at least in his own opinion.

Now, whether one believes in gods as other Gods - Cernunnos, Zeus, Artemis, Inanna, etc, or as the Christians are so good at downplaying things, as money, material goods, etc., is up to the individual.

YHWH seems overtly concerned about his place in the scheme of things, to be going on and on about his standing. And his followers are so worried, they work on downplaying everything instead of either saying their God is great enough to stand on His own, or is another god in the world, and one who throws fairly frequent temper-tantrums.

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Wed 01/20/10 02:35 PM

Opinions are like belly buttons -every one has one...
Mine is-
That I hope one day you do not find out that there is a God,
only after it is too late.


Greeneyedlady....perhaps opinions are more like a fart....everyone's stink but yours


I am so sorry that you feel I need a lesson from you on the book of JOB.
I will not argue with you.


Greeneyedlady...it's called a debate....you express your veiws and the other person express theirs....just because the two do not agree is no reason to take it personally ...you are the one that tried to use "The Book of Job" and I express my opinion about believers using it as a reference


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Wed 01/20/10 02:36 PM

You sir are in my prayers. I hope you enjoy your day.

Opinions are like belly buttons -every one has one...
Mine is-
That I hope one day you do not find out that there is a God,
only after it is too late.

I am so sorry that you feel I need a lesson from you on the book of JOB.
I will not argue with you.




you were close with the opinions. Opinions are more like butt holes, everyone has one but most of them stink.

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Wed 01/20/10 02:38 PM




yes and this can go on for hours. Only person that would win on this note would be the one that can read the original writings of the bible and not depending on translations.


Cowboy...are you also claiming that what written or translated in the bible is inaccurate? ....where have your faith gone my child


No, and another thing poppped into my mind. Just like in todays world, for most people money is God for them. So that would be the same as those people in the time Jesus came to earth. The gods they were worshipping were "THEIR" gods. Does not meen they were true Gods. Cause i know money isn't truely a god but it is God to most people in this world these days.


Cowboy...for anyone that doesn't live in the forest eating fruits and berries among the woodlen creatures then money is God


lol how nieve can you be funches? Money is not God. Money is the root of all evil. All evil actions have some form or way to do with money.

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Wed 01/20/10 02:45 PM

No, YHWH is not an atheist. You quoted it yourself, Funches "Thou shalt have no other gods before me". So He admits there are other gods, but he is top god, at least in his own opinion.


EquusDancer.....Yahweh never said say that there are no other Gods...he said do not place any other Gods before him ... if Yahwah didn't have any religion or believed in a God besides himself then according to religious believers that classify him as being an Atheist




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Wed 01/20/10 02:47 PM





yes and this can go on for hours. Only person that would win on this note would be the one that can read the original writings of the bible and not depending on translations.


Cowboy...are you also claiming that what written or translated in the bible is inaccurate? ....where have your faith gone my child


No, and another thing poppped into my mind. Just like in todays world, for most people money is God for them. So that would be the same as those people in the time Jesus came to earth. The gods they were worshipping were "THEIR" gods. Does not meen they were true Gods. Cause i know money isn't truely a god but it is God to most people in this world these days.


Cowboy...for anyone that doesn't live in the forest eating fruits and berries among the woodlen creatures then money is God


lol how nieve can you be funches? Money is not God. Money is the root of all evil. All evil actions have some form or way to do with money.


Cowboy....so do a pure Christian like yourself resort to using the evil money

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Wed 01/20/10 02:51 PM





yes and this can go on for hours. Only person that would win on this note would be the one that can read the original writings of the bible and not depending on translations.


Cowboy...are you also claiming that what written or translated in the bible is inaccurate? ....where have your faith gone my child


No, and another thing poppped into my mind. Just like in todays world, for most people money is God for them. So that would be the same as those people in the time Jesus came to earth. The gods they were worshipping were "THEIR" gods. Does not meen they were true Gods. Cause i know money isn't truely a god but it is God to most people in this world these days.


Cowboy...for anyone that doesn't live in the forest eating fruits and berries among the woodlen creatures then money is God


lol how nieve can you be funches? Money is not God. Money is the root of all evil. All evil actions have some form or way to do with money.


It is not money specifically cowboy, it is the LOVE of money. When people love money MORE than God,, money becomes their God and evil becomes much easier to commit. Many people do things that they normally wouldnt do(knowing they weren't the right thing) because the money entices them to do it. Those people place the monetary profit before God and it encourages them to make displeasing choices.

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Wed 01/20/10 02:51 PM






yes and this can go on for hours. Only person that would win on this note would be the one that can read the original writings of the bible and not depending on translations.


Cowboy...are you also claiming that what written or translated in the bible is inaccurate? ....where have your faith gone my child


No, and another thing poppped into my mind. Just like in todays world, for most people money is God for them. So that would be the same as those people in the time Jesus came to earth. The gods they were worshipping were "THEIR" gods. Does not meen they were true Gods. Cause i know money isn't truely a god but it is God to most people in this world these days.


Cowboy...for anyone that doesn't live in the forest eating fruits and berries among the woodlen creatures then money is God


lol how nieve can you be funches? Money is not God. Money is the root of all evil. All evil actions have some form or way to do with money.


Cowboy....so do a pure Christian like yourself resort to using the evil money


i did not say money was evil, i said money is the root of all evil. And to answere your question yes i do, i get just enough to live on each month and is completely ok with me because that is all anyone needs.

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Wed 01/20/10 02:53 PM






yes and this can go on for hours. Only person that would win on this note would be the one that can read the original writings of the bible and not depending on translations.


Cowboy...are you also claiming that what written or translated in the bible is inaccurate? ....where have your faith gone my child


No, and another thing poppped into my mind. Just like in todays world, for most people money is God for them. So that would be the same as those people in the time Jesus came to earth. The gods they were worshipping were "THEIR" gods. Does not meen they were true Gods. Cause i know money isn't truely a god but it is God to most people in this world these days.


Cowboy...for anyone that doesn't live in the forest eating fruits and berries among the woodlen creatures then money is God


lol how nieve can you be funches? Money is not God. Money is the root of all evil. All evil actions have some form or way to do with money.


It is not money specifically cowboy, it is the LOVE of money. When people love money MORE than God,, money becomes their God and evil becomes much easier to commit. Many people do things that they normally wouldnt do(knowing they weren't the right thing) because the money entices them to do it. Those people place the monetary profit before God and it encourages them to make displeasing choices.


exactly what i was saying..... evil is the ROOT of all evil. Money itself is not evil, it is just the root of evil.