Pat Robinson... is beyond out of line!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QszyMLxrQvk

Yeah, I don't care too much for what Pat Robertson says. However God destroyed Sodom and Gommorah for being so wicked of a city by fierce hailstones of fire, possibly by volcanic lava bombs like pompeii. Ninevah, a prophet (forgot who) pleaded with God not to destroy the city,but to spare it if he found some righteous. Katrina was sent by God, for what reason I'm not sure. Too much wicked partying? HAITI is the Voodoo capitol of the world. Go figure. Doesn't surprise me God would send judgment. Just my thoughts that I firmly believe God uses natural catastrophies in Judgment. Those who read and might hate on this, not saying I'm any kind of prophet in any means,but, in the O.T. they lived very lonely,desolate,depressed lives. They had no friends, people hated them, and were out to kill them. =/

That's what happens when you live in a dream world.

See that's the problem with the First Amendment. Bat **** crazy still get to tell you their thoughts.

AlbionCrusader,

While I respect your legitimate right to believe what you may, why would you '...firmly believe God uses natural catastrophies in Judgment...' ??? I am genuinely wondering about that. Why believe in such a wicked god? Why believe in such a divisive and vengeful god?

And when you suggest that New Orleans was hit by god because because there were too many wicked parties?!?!? Hasn't god heard of Las Vegas, or Los Angeles, or New York, etc. ??? How does New Orleans beat dozens of more deserving cities in the area of 'wicked parties', and get hit by god for it???

Obviously, god doesn't seem to use any kind of logic, or as they say, he works in mysterious ways. So I truly question your use of logic, in founding your belief: '... to firmly believe that god uses natural catastrophies in judgment...'.

As for the comment you make about Pat Robertson: '... don't care too much for what he says...', it is fully contradicted by the very similar comments you make youeself: same essential belief in a vengeful, jealous and divisive god. Same view, different words.

Truly wonder!

I believe in God. And I believe in alot of the religious doctrine.


But, in most cases, I think that some of the disasters attributed to being God's wrath... we just natural disasters... explained by human being as such. IMO

of course it's god and satan playing their games with human lives....remember Job, now the two are going big time messing with thousands and thousands of people,but god makes sure he kills most of them so he doesn't have to give anything back this time

Haitian Earthquake: Made in the USA
Why the Blood Is on Our Hands
by Ted Rall

As grim accounts of the earthquake in Haiti came in, the accounts in U.S.-controlled state media all carried the same descriptive sentence: "Haiti is the poorest country in the Western hemisphere..."

Gee, I wonder how that happened?

You'd think Haiti would be loaded. After all, it made a lot of people rich.

How did Haiti get so poor? Despite a century of American colonialism, occupation, and propping up corrupt dictators? Even though the CIA staged coups d'état against every democratically elected president they ever had?

It's an important question. An earthquake isn't just an earthquake. The same 7.0 tremor hitting San Francisco wouldn't kill nearly as many people as in Port-au-Prince.
"Looking at the pictures, essentially it looks as if (the buildings are of) breezeblock or cinderblock construction, and what you need in an earthquake zone is metal bars that connect the blocks so that they stay together when they get shaken," notes Sandy Steacey, director of the Environmental Science Research Institute at the University of Ulster in Northern Ireland. "In a wealthy country with good seismic building codes that are enforced, you would have some damage, but not very much."

When a pile of cinderblocks falls on you, your odds of survival are long. Even if you miraculously survive, a poor country like Haiti doesn't have the equipment, communications infrastructure or emergency service personnel to pull you out of the rubble in time. And if your neighbors get you out, there's no ambulance to take you to the hospital--or doctor to treat you once you get there.

Earthquakes are random events. How many people they kill is predetermined. In Haiti this week, don't blame tectonic plates. Ninety-nine percent of the death toll is attributable to poverty.

So the question is relevant. How'd Haiti become so poor?

The story begins in 1910, when a U.S. State Department-National City Bank of New York (now called Citibank) consortium bought the Banque National d'Haïti--Haiti's only commercial bank and its national treasury--in effect transferring Haiti's debts to the Americans. Five years later, President Woodrow Wilson ordered troops to occupy the country in order to keep tabs on "our" investment.

From 1915 to 1934, the U.S. Marines imposed harsh military occupation, murdered Haitians patriots and diverted 40 percent of Haiti's gross domestic product to U.S. bankers. Haitians were banned from government jobs. Ambitious Haitians were shunted into the puppet military, setting the stage for a half-century of U.S.-backed military dictatorship.

The U.S. kept control of Haiti's finances until 1947.

Still--why should Haitians complain? Sure, we stole 40 percent of Haiti's national wealth for 32 years. But we let them keep 60 percent.

Whiners.

Despite having been bled dry by American bankers and generals, civil disorder prevailed until 1957, when the CIA installed President-for-Life François "Papa Doc" Duvalier. Duvalier's brutal Tonton Macoutes paramilitary goon squads murdered at least 30,000 Haitians and drove educated people to flee into exile. But think of the cup as half-full: fewer people in the population means fewer people competing for the same jobs!

Upon Papa Doc's death in 1971, the torch passed to his even more dissolute 19-year-old son, Jean-Claude "Baby Doc" Duvalier. The U.S., cool to Papa Doc in his later years, quickly warmed back up to his kleptomaniacal playboy heir. As the U.S. poured in arms and trained his army as a supposed anti-communist bulwark against Castro's Cuba, Baby Doc stole an estimated $300 to $800 million from the national treasury, according to Transparency International. The money was placed in personal accounts in Switzerland and elsewhere.

Under U.S. influence, Baby Doc virtually eliminated import tariffs for U.S. goods. Soon Haiti was awash predatory agricultural imports dumped by American firms. Domestic rice farmers went bankrupt. A nation that had been agriculturally self-sustaining collapsed. Farms were abandoned. Hundreds of thousands of farmers migrated to the teeming slums of Port-au-Prince.

The Duvalier era, 29 years in all, came to an end in 1986 when President Ronald Reagan ordered U.S. forces to whisk Baby Doc to exile in France, saving him from a popular uprising.

Once again, Haitians should thank Americans. Duvalierism was "tough love." Forcing Haitians to make do without their national treasury was our nice way or encouraging them to work harder, to lift themselves up by their bootstraps. Or, in this case, flipflops.
Anyway.

The U.S. has been all about tough love ever since. We twice deposed the populist and popular democratically-elected president Jean-Bertrand Aristide. The second time, in 2004, we even gave him a free flight to the Central African Republic! (He says the CIA kidnapped him, but whatever.) Hey, he needed a rest. And it was kind of us to support a new government formed by former Tonton Macoutes.

Yet, despite everything we've done for Haiti, they're still a fourth-world failed state on a fault line.

And still, we haven't given up. American companies like Disney generously pay wages to their sweatshop workers of 28 cents an hour.

What more do these ingrates want?

http://www.commondreams.org/view/2010/01/14-13

Ted Rall is the author of the new book "Silk Road to Ruin: Is Central Asia the New Middle East?," an in-depth prose and graphic novel analysis of America's next big foreign policy challenge.


Hmmm maybe there is something to this pact with satan

Thanks for denouncing the pathetic 'fundamentalists' 'tanyaann'.
They are way beyond 'out of line'.
They are a national threat to the mental health of future generations of Americans!!!

fundamentalist or radical thoughts of any nature are unproductive and harmful.

You're right 'tanyaann'. The Middle-East (+) has to deal with its Islamic radicals, and America must start dealing with its 'chrisitian radicals'.

Satan Writes a Letter to Pat Robertson

By Satan
Dear Pat Robertson,

January 16, 2010 -- "Star Tribune" - -I know that you know that all press is good press, so I appreciate the shout-out. And you make God look like a big mean bully who kicks people when they are down, so I'm all over that action. But when you say that Haiti has made a pact with me, it is totally humiliating. I may be evil incarnate, but I'm no welcher.

The way you put it, making a deal with me leaves folks desperate and impoverished. Sure, in the afterlife, but when I strike bargains with people, they first get something here on earth -- glamour, beauty, talent, wealth, fame, glory, a golden fiddle.

Those Haitians have nothing, and I mean nothing. And that was before the earthquake. Haven't you seen "Crossroads"? Or "Damn Yankees"?

If I had a thing going with Haiti, there'd be lots of banks, skyscrapers, SUVs, exclusive night clubs, Botox -- that kind of thing.

An 80 percent poverty rate is so not my style. Nothing against it -- I'm just saying: Not how I roll.

You're doing great work, Pat, and I don't want to clip your wings -- just, come on, you're making me look bad. And not the good kind of bad. Keep blaming God. That's working. But leave me out of it, please. Or we may need to renegotiate your own contract.

Best, Satan


http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24412.htm

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I think the first and second amendments are the most important amendments we have . but i guess those people who are above it all and illiberal don't feel like equal right are important are they ?

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My history book says it use to be the top spot to vacation in the caribbean until they drove the french out and stole there businesses . its a lot like Rhodesia's in Africa's . they use to grow all the food Africa needed but now the can't even feed themselves . but i do know also they didn't honer there treaties they robbed the farmers of there land and gave it to the new old boy net . all I can say beyond this is , the old statement that if you tell a lie long enought it becomes true is not always true . some of us read books .and PAT ROBINSON IS SENILE .

Who is saying they don't feel that equal rights are important? People like Pat Robertson are free to say what they want. We're free to think they're completely crazy.

If this is some sort of a view that many shares, then ..."God help you all.

How is this different than when Islamic fundamentalists calling the west the "great Satan"?

I see the same thing. Same crap, (slightly) different fanaticism.

Maybe he should go join the Taliban.

READ THE QUOTE UP ABOVE US and you well see where it came from .

Ok. So, that was one person. How did that turn into liberals not thinking equal rights were important?

Pat robinson is very old and talks on his TV show nearly every day.Old people who talk alot are going to say things that makes little or no sense.

On the other hand I believe that what Pat said had some truth in it.I know it is not Gods will to kill anyone and would prefer people to do what he says and live.If the majority of the population of a city or country is ignoring Gods laws and living life like a bunch of drunken,whore mongers,then I firmly believe God will take his protection from that city and let Satan have his way with them which of course leads to death and destruction.It was written in the book of Job how God did this very thing.I also believe God did the same thing with new Orleans.New orleans was a city full of drunken idiots,having sex with anyone who came along,and was for many years(and probably still is)full of crime and murder.

The more these cities take God out of them the more I expect their self destruction.Cities such as...

San Francisco
Tijuana and Mexico city
Seattle
Boston