LashV1200:
the remedies for the problem of overpopulation are contraceptives and education.

Certainly, such remedies would achieve the required objective -- from the point of view of any intelligent person. However, have you ever wondered about the percantage of such people in the whole World? (30%, or 40%, or maybe even 50%???)
The greater part of Humanity hardly qualifies for the title of an "intelligent person". Though attempts of raising the general intellectual level are permanently being carried out, unfortunately the inborn backwardness of some folks is beyond any hope -- if one is a fool, that's for the longest time! Not only that, but the Foolishness also propagates much faster than the Reasonableness!

The Copenghagen Convention was the 1st global attempt of tackling the problem of reducing the "green-house effect". However, pretty soon, there will be many more conventions dedicated to reducing the problem of over-population... (In China, for example, the law already restricts the number of children to ONE per family!!!) And that's just the beginning...

Certainly, its easy for various (peacenic) intellectuals -- WHO AREN'T RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING ANYWAYS) -- to be raising the issues of the Democracy, Human rights, equality, etc.
However, try "wearing the shoes" of a politician responsible for the fate of the country (if not the whole world) and you may find your decisions become much more critical... -- especially when most of the Congress supports those "critical decisions"!

For that reason (i.e. the general public's inability of comprehending all remifications of the decision) some of those decisions aren't even made public at all (or not given enough coverage in the media)...

P.S. But, please, don't misunderstand me:
I AM NOT ADVOCATING FOR WAR! I'm just being realistic!

This is the challenge of your generation, you and those who are mindful and think as you do. That is why you and others like you are on this planet now and there are VERY many more like you. The old systems will eventually fall away..I may not see it my life time, you will. It is already beginning to happen, the corruption will not last, the money system will not last... all the systems that have failed us will fall away and your generation will be the new leaders.
The romance of war is not as romantic as it once was either. There was a time, as someone mentioned in a different thread..where it was the manly thing to do, a time when women only wanted a soldier. Every man wanted to be a soldier. Even in the late 70's when I finished high school so many I knew were enlisting..many were only doing it out of an obligation because their dad did and grandpa did and great grandpa did. Many I personally knew did not want to join the military. Now even more so.... there are now and always will be those who feel it s a young persons obligation to sign up and join the military. And yes, there are some with a huge ego..the wannabe hero and of course those who want to do this for all the right reasons. I feel those numbers are getting smaller and smaller. Each generation has seen the horror of war and it is not so glamorous and romantic anymore.
I have raised my sons to be pacifists, and have discouraged them to join the military...I have been told on this site that I am un American and have taught my sons to be P usY's...that I have no right to the benefits we, as American have..because of my views.
The romance of war is fading along with the systems that have kept war as a staple for every generation to live with.

a war (or all sorts of mass "artificial" epidemies) would remain the most widely used remedies for world's ills...

... intelligent person. However, have you ever wondered about the percantage of such people in the whole World? (30%, or 40%, or maybe even 50%???)
The greater part of Humanity hardly qualifies for the title of an "intelligent person". ... unfortunately the inborn backwardness of some folks is beyond any hope ...
...when most of the Congress supports those "critical decisions"! For that reason (i.e. the general public's inability of comprehending all remifications of the decision) some of those decisions aren't even made public at all.

The Copenghagen Convention was the 1st global attempt of tackling the problem of reducing the "green-house effect".

War is about profits. Everything else is propaganda. As long as three people exist on the planet one will make money by convincing the other two to war on each other.

Bring on the feminine spirit

You have no clue you are talking about. I do not see the subject to discuss here.

War is about profits. Everything else is propaganda. As long as three people exist on the planet one will make money by convincing the other two to war on each other.

Good job Starting A War LadyLid! Just kidding. This started out as a very thoughtful discussion on a very complex topic. But now we just don't want to play anymore.

acuddler:

LashV1200:
This is a nice piece of propaganda. Bloody stuff aside, the name of the game is not Profits; it is CORRUPTION damaging the national economy.

The violent nature and controversial social effects of war raise troubling moral questions for a thoughtful person. Is war always wrong? Might there be situations when it can be a justified? Is war an outcome of unchangeable human nature or of changeable social practice?

War is a phenomenon which occurs between political communities and it seems that all warfare is precisely, and ultimately, about governance. Carl Von Clausewitz the (so-called) philosopher of war famously suggested that war is “the continuation of policy by other means”. Governance by bludgeon might be a better way of putting it.
We all had high hopes going into the new millennium in 2000. In many communities the midnight bells were followed by John Lennon’s call to peace -“Imagine”. Within a year Afghanistan was invaded. Within 2 years the US and UK went with the utmost belligerency into a war on Iraq. The Lancet estimated that 601,000 people were killed in Iraq between 2003 and 2006. The rule of non-combatant immunity has been replaced by the heartless term ‘collateral damage’.

Can there be such a thing as a just war when aggression is defined as the use of armed force in violation of someone else's basic rights? Aggression attacks the very spine of human civilization. Is it not absurd to punish someone for an offense they have yet to commit? International law forbids preemptive strikes unless they are clearly authorized in advance by the UN Security Council.

The just causes most frequently mentioned include self-defense from external attack and the protection of innocents from brutal regimes. Terrorism is the use of random violence against civilians with the specific intent of spreading fear throughout a population and advancing a political objective. Terrorism is not overcome by killing the same innocents which the notion of a just war is professed to protect.

The nature of humans is formed by their experiences and education. This is changeable. Unless practical and effective alternatives to violence are offered, policy-makers without imagination will always tend to favor the default method (violence), borne from historical teaching rather than future planning.

Military approaches to conflict have limited use and often make the underlying problem worse. They are also very expensive. For every dollar spent globally on conflict prevention and conflict resolution by non-military means, nearly 2,000 times as much is spent on defense and the military. The average direct cost of one violent conflict is $64 billion. With just a fraction of that sum, violence could be nipped in the bud, thousands of lives saved and many millions in post-conflict reconstruction costs avoided.

Since the early 1990s more wars have ended by negotiated settlement than by military victory, and yet the chances of violent conflicts restarting are still almost 50%. Ignition or re-ignition of violent conflict is much more likely where local peace builders are insufficiently mobilized or resourced to engage in the peace process. Non violent resolution to conflict is entirely possible. The only thing lacking is funding.

One organization which encourages dialogue on the practical means to prevent, transform and resolve violent conflict is the APPGCI. Read more here - http://www.conflictissues.org.uk

War, actually, is the outcome of failed diplomacy -- when negotiating parties fail in reaching the agreement.

_________________On the other hand_________________
war is the best vehical for stimulating a stagnating economy -- that's why most of the wars have started during the economic crizis... -- increased production reduces the unemployment, selling arms to either of the warring parties also brings huge profits that further stimulate the economy...

............ WAR IS THE INSTANT GRATIFICATION!

(*** not that I agree with such policy! *** But, so far, nothing has been devised instead of that horrible economic stimulator!!! ***)
And, sometimes (like in case of Livia, Khadafi) the pre-emptive strike was necessary for protection of the allies -- before the conflict escalates into something much more serious...

Certainly, preemptive strikes ought to be authorized in advance by the UN Security Council. But then the pre-emptiveness of the strike -- which relies on the effect of the unexpectedness -- would be worthless and not as effective!

For over 65 years the world has avoided the WWW -- World Wide War! The population explosion, fueled by the advances of the medical research, would have brought the world to the brink of Hunger & Overpopulation some 15-20 years ago, if it wasn't for all of those "little" local wars that, mostly, occure in the underdeveloped countries -- so that there won't be any risc of employing the nuclear weapons.

**** It may be a startling news to some, but I'm sure the UN Security Commitee itself -- which consists of the major super powers that comprise a Marshal Commitee -- may be involved in estimating what countries are the "safest" to engage in a "little local war" -- the most losses at the least expenses! (you might've heard of the elite "secret societies", i.e. local representatives of the Marshal Commitee...)

Terrorism might be the unexpected, yet helpful, side-effect in that regard -- although such a random element is highly unpredictable and, therefore, undesireable!

I suspect the unpredictability the world might be under a much greater control than seems at the surface... * * *
Yet, the general public shouldn't concern itself with such issues... Pursuit of happinness is a much more worthy endaevor!!! (while such organizations as APPGCI, and the like, give people a sense of hope -- thus giving the renegades a false sense of security...)

Nobody expects anything more than that from this girl. I feel sorry for her.

I forgive you.