Topic: Obama, other Dems praise new health compromise
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Wed 12/09/09 07:02 PM
WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama as well as Democratic liberals and moderates all found something to like Wednesday in an emerging compromise to expand the role of government in the nation's health care system, raising hopes inside the party that passage of overhaul legislation might be within reach after a struggle lasting decades.

The same plan drew critics, though — and the threat of more opponents once closely held details become widely known.

Obama hailed "a creative new framework that I believe will help pave the way for final passage of legislation and a historic achievement for the American people." He said, "I support this effort, especially since it's aimed at increasing choice and competition and lowering cost."

A provision opening Medicare to uninsured Americans between the ages of 55 and 64 drew praise from some liberals.

Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y., called it "an unvarnished, complete victory for people like me who have been arguing for a single-payer system."

Howard Dean, the former party chairman and an advocate of a government-run insurance option, told CBS, "Using Medicare makes more sense than reinventing more bureaucracy."

The idea of a full-blown government-run insurance option, heatedly debated for months, would be jettisoned under the tentative agreement reached by Senate Democratic liberals and moderates and announced Tuesday night. In its place would be the expansion of Medicare, as well as new nationwide private plans to be run by the same agency that oversees the system that lawmakers use for themselves and their families.

Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., described the agreement as a significant step in the struggle to round up the votes needed to pass the broader overhaul legislation. The House has already passed its version, and Democrats are driving for a Senate vote before Christmas.

That would leave only a final compromise between the houses before legislation could go to Obama for his signature. Congress has spent months trying to deliver a bill to the White House that would expand coverage to millions who now lack it, ban insurance companies from denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions and generally reduce the skyrocketing growth of medical spending nationwide.

Sen. Joe Lieberman, an independent from Connecticut who has vowed to fight any government-run insurance option, said he was "encouraged by the progress toward a consensus," but he'll wait to see the final details.

Lieberman's vote is one of 60 that Democrats would need to enact the legislation over unanimous Republican opposition. "Sen. Reid has stretched the tent to keep all 60 senators under it as well as anyone I've ever seen," said Sen. Ron Wyden, D-Ore.

Reid's not quite there yet. Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said Democrats were making progress but "believe me there are legitimate and serious questions being raised by members of the caucus . . . so we have work to do."

Lieberman and Sen. Ben Nelson, D-Neb., are viewed as among the shakiest supporters of the bill.

Nelson met with Reid on the issue of abortion, a day after the Nebraskan's amendment to tighten funding restrictions in the bill was rejected. They agreed to keep talking. Roman Catholic bishops, meanwhile, put the Senate on notice they will oppose the bill unless it includes stricter curbs. "Failure to exclude abortion funding will turn allies into adversaries and require us and others to oppose this bill because it abandons both principle and precedent," said Cardinal Francis George, president of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops.

Two other senators considered to be wavering praised different parts of the latest proposal.

Sen. Mary Landrieu, D-La., said the Medicare expansion could help small business.

"There are a lot of small business people who are between the ages of 55 and 64," she said. "If that were done (it) would provide some real relief to them."

Sen. Blanche Lincoln, D-Ark., said she approved of the suggested national plans to be administered by the Office of Personnel Management. "OPM being the negotiator will help, I think, be able to bring the best product forward," she said.

According to several officials, the deal would maintain an existing federal health care program for children until 2015, when it would be folded into so-called national exchanges where consumers would purchase coverage.

Insurance companies would be required to spend 90 percent of their income from premiums on providing benefits.

Many officials declined to discuss details, heeding an admonition that if they did, the Congressional Budget office would feel compelled to release preliminary cost estimates that lawmakers prefer to receive secretly.

Thus, there was no word on the cost of purchasing Medicare coverage, as an example, in the years before 2014, when federal subsidies would become available for lower- and some middle-income individuals and families.

Sen. Olympia Snowe, R-Maine, told reporters premiums would total about $7,600 annually until federal subsidies became available in 2014. That translated into more than $600 a month, far higher than the $96.40 paid by beneficiaries age 65 and up.

Despite the praise from Obama and others, there were critics across the political spectrum.

They included MoveOn.org., the liberal group, which issued a statement saying Democrats had "bargained away the heart of health care reform allowing conservative senators like Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson to hold the process hostage and protect Big Insurance."

The Mayo Clinic Health Policy Center sent notices to lawmakers criticizing the emerging plan. Expanding Medicare to individuals 55 to 64 years old, it said, "would ultimately hurt patients by accelerating the financial ruin of hospitals and doctors across the country."

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Fanta46's photo
Wed 12/09/09 07:03 PM
I like this part esp.,

The idea of a full-blown government-run insurance option, heatedly debated for months, would be jettisoned under the tentative agreement reached by Senate Democratic liberals and moderates and announced Tuesday night.

In its place would be the expansion of Medicare, as well as new nationwide private plans to be run by the same agency that oversees the system that lawmakers use for themselves and their families.

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Wed 12/09/09 07:07 PM
I really don't even know what to think of all this, I trust the government as far as I can throw a building...and that aint far!

Fanta46's photo
Wed 12/09/09 07:28 PM

I really don't even know what to think of all this, I trust the government as far as I can throw a building...and that aint far!

They are talking about a compromise on the Public Insurance option.
Rather than creating a new program this would expand on Medicare.
Making it available to people starting at age 55, and expanding it to include new nationwide private plans to be run by the same agency that oversees the system that lawmakers use for themselves and their families.

boredinaz06's photo
Wed 12/09/09 07:43 PM
What I mean is it is politicians saying this which means their lips are moving which means they're lying!

Fanta46's photo
Wed 12/09/09 07:53 PM

What I mean is it is politicians saying this which means their lips are moving which means they're lying!


laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 12/09/09 08:02 PM
good grief...the bill robs some medicare entitlements only to turn around and fund other medicare entitlements back into the bill.

I think the dems realized that they pissed off the 25 % of seniors that had medicare advantage taken away from them and realized they best recover some votes for the 2010 elections...nice try

And to spend the borrowed paid back bailout monies that everyone claimed was lost on the banks.

Shameful.....

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Wed 12/09/09 08:06 PM
According to the CNN report tonight, folks 62 up can buy in only paying a modest $650.00 a month.

Fanta46's photo
Wed 12/09/09 08:22 PM
PoppyCock!

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Wed 12/09/09 10:18 PM


I really don't even know what to think of all this, I trust the government as far as I can throw a building...and that aint far!

They are talking about a compromise on the Public Insurance option.
Rather than creating a new program this would expand on Medicare.
Making it available to people starting at age 55, and expanding it to include new nationwide private plans to be run by the same agency that oversees the system that lawmakers use for themselves and their families.


Yeah, because medicare is so efficient right now.

This is bull. A national private option? Just open the border limitations! All you are doing now is a government-regulated private insurance plan that has to cover everyone and will be no better off than the public option would be.

We are so ****ed. I hope you are all happy about this in 5 years when it's bankrupt. Oh, wait, nevermind... there's going to be lots of money in it for a while because WE HAVE TO PAY FOR 3 ****ING YEARS BEFORE IT EVEN KICKS IN! so much for the need to hurry. how convenient that it starts the year after the next election so if it tanks, nobody will be on the chopping block that year.