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Topic: Age and perspective
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Sun 11/22/09 04:28 PM
I have noticed what seems to be a fundamental difference in approach to “arguments”, in this forum, and which seems to be very much related to age.

The major difference seems to be something like “tolerance”, “acceptance”, “broad-mindedness”, “temperance”, “indulgence”, “forbearance” or something along those lines.

Not arguing for or against anything. Just making an observation and wondering if anyone else is/has observing/observed anything similar.

(One wonders if this might be a key factor in “the generation gap”.)

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Sun 11/22/09 04:37 PM
I think the younger people in GENERAL tend to be not just more hot-headed, but cockier and more rude and offensive in asserting themselves.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 11/22/09 04:38 PM
With age comes experience, with experience comes wisdom, with wisdom comes
knowledge, with knowledge comes an awareness that one can not understand until they come to own their own experience...

Italy0219's photo
Sun 11/22/09 05:19 PM

With age comes experience, with experience comes wisdom, with wisdom comes
knowledge, with knowledge comes an awareness that one can not understand until they come to own their own experience...



Can't agree more..

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 11/22/09 05:53 PM


With age comes experience, with experience comes wisdom, with wisdom comes
knowledge, with knowledge comes an awareness that one can not understand until they come to own their own experience...



Can't agree more..


wow...as simple an explanation as I could come up with, yet makes more sense now that I re read it.

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Sun 11/22/09 06:30 PM

I have noticed what seems to be a fundamental difference in approach to “arguments”, in this forum, and which seems to be very much related to age.

The major difference seems to be something like “tolerance”, “acceptance”, “broad-mindedness”, “temperance”, “indulgence”, “forbearance” or something along those lines.

Not arguing for or against anything. Just making an observation and wondering if anyone else is/has observing/observed anything similar.

(One wonders if this might be a key factor in “the generation gap”.)



Although in my case I would say you would have been absolutely right and still may be, there are younger folks who really do open their minds and keep an open perspective. On the flip of that, I have noticed the old fogies:) sometimes are so stuck in their mindset, it would take an explosion in their brain to knock them lose of it. So it goes both ways.

I have to say I am calmer, more open and less likely to "rise up" now than in younger years. I am more bending and accepting now. I have calmed my confrontational tendencies some and I don't remember the last time I got more than just a bit annoyed. I never did get really angry often but when I was young and when I did LOOK OUT, I would not even remember what happened if you got me to a rage. It was usually bad for the other person. I haven't seen a rage since in my twenties though so we are good now.

I seem to have lost track of the thread here, sorry.

Anyway it goes both ways.

You know I have heard when people are young they are of a liberal mindset and when older conservative but I have seen the opposite and I am one of them. I am still not an all out liberal but definitely more than my younger years.

So I guess my point here is that age although an obvious observation is not always a good judge of what you'll get.

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Sun 11/22/09 06:38 PM
I agree with ya on that point as far as some open minded younger folk. Most of my friends are much younger than me..mostly because of where I live, and I'll tell ya some of them are sharp and on it...and they appreciate knowing they can come and learn from me..and I appreciate that I can learn much from them. The younger ones who don't think they can learn from an older person are well...just don't get that. And the older who think they can't learn from someone younger just because their older..it's almost worse.
Stuffy, stubborn old people, ugh...that's part of why my friends are younger.

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Sun 11/22/09 06:43 PM
well I think older people and younger people have all the same tendencies depending on the individual. I think that some older people are just more clever and subtle in their confrontations not that they do not make them. Something that comes with experience.

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Sun 11/22/09 06:59 PM

I have noticed what seems to be a fundamental difference in approach to “arguments”, in this forum, and which seems to be very much related to age.


Well, I can't be sure if it's related specifically to age, but I get a sense that the more mature people tend to be out to simply share thoughts, whilst some of the less mature people are suffering from some sort of delusion that everything can be either proved or disproved in some sort of absolute concrete way.

Perhaps with age comes the realization that all is just a matter of viewpoint and there are no concrete absolutes.

Thinking back to my younger days (especially my first time through college), I believe that I too was convinced in the iron-clad sword of logic, mathematics, and scientific thinking. It seemed to be so rock-solid back then. Boy has my view on that changed over the decades.

I now view logic as malleable, and science as stringy. laugh


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Sun 11/22/09 07:04 PM


I have noticed what seems to be a fundamental difference in approach to “arguments”, in this forum, and which seems to be very much related to age.


Well, I can't be sure if it's related specifically to age, but I get a sense that the more mature people tend to be out to simply share thoughts, whilst some of the less mature people are suffering from some sort of delusion that everything can be either proved or disproved in some sort of absolute concrete way.

Perhaps with age comes the realization that all is just a matter of viewpoint and there are no concrete absolutes.

Thinking back to my younger days (especially my first time through college), I believe that I too was convinced in the iron-clad sword of logic, mathematics, and scientific thinking. It seemed to be so rock-solid back then. Boy has my view on that changed over the decades.

I now view logic as malleable, and science as stringy. laugh




I think that falls into a category such as...
I am open to all possibilities, nothing is iron clad and anything can happen, may very well happen and if and when it does happen, I'll have an yet another opportunity to learn something. :smile:

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Sun 11/22/09 07:22 PM

I think the younger people in GENERAL tend to be not just more hot-headed, but cockier and more rude and offensive in asserting themselves.


Holy cow... I'm getting younger as I age. (Generally speaking.) I am definitely cocky, cooky, rude and offen- and defensive, more than in my youth, when I was already a provocative presenter.

Thanks, I take this comment of yours as a compliment.

wux's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:23 PM


With age comes experience, with experience comes wisdom, with wisdom comes
knowledge, with knowledge comes an awareness that one can not understand until they come to own their own experience...



Can't agree more..


I also can't agree more... nor could I agree less... you got it exactly right.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:26 PM



With age comes experience, with experience comes wisdom, with wisdom comes
knowledge, with knowledge comes an awareness that one can not understand until they come to own their own experience...



Can't agree more..


I also can't agree more... nor could I agree less... you got it exactly right.


Thank you wux...flowerforyou

coming from you that actually means a lot to me, truly.

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Sun 11/22/09 07:46 PM

With age comes experience, with experience comes wisdom, with wisdom comes
knowledge, with knowledge comes an awareness that one can not understand until they come to own their own experience...



Wisdom does not come with age necessarily, so much as learning from experience.

If you've experienced something and learned noting from it, then you are wise to nothing about it and will probably repeat yourself.

There's 12 year olds, probably more wise than some 40 year olds.

Thomas27's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:47 PM
I like to sleep with older women in hopes something will rub off in the night besides some std they picked up in the 70's

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Sun 11/22/09 08:05 PM
I’m not even sure that “broad-mindedness” (to pick one of a dozen possible terms) is inherently any better than it’s opposite.

It seems to me that single-minded cockiness is a valuable trait when looked at from the perspective of “progress”. It is generally those with a vehement narrowness of focus that push the edge of the envelope into the greatest advances of mankind – as well as the most ignominious failures.

But hey, “Nothing ventured, nothing gained”.

Such is the game of life.

drinker

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Sun 11/22/09 08:10 PM


With age comes experience, with experience comes wisdom, with wisdom comes
knowledge, with knowledge comes an awareness that one can not understand until they come to own their own experience...



Wisdom does not come with age necessarily, so much as learning from experience.

If you've experienced something and learned noting from it, then you are wise to nothing about it and will probably repeat yourself.

There's 12 year olds, probably more wise than some 40 year olds.


I realize that...I feel fortunate that those I know my age have the gift of wisdom from learning through the experience...
I'm not sure what your last post has to do with the topic of this thread..maybe just felt like being a troll?
Maybe having a conversation with an older woman would benefit you, some of us are wise and have learned many things.

Thomas27's photo
Sun 11/22/09 08:12 PM
To call one's self wise is about the equivalent of calling one's self sane.

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 11/22/09 08:22 PM

To call one's self wise is about the equivalent of calling one's self sane.


I would never refer to myself as sane, I mean who is to define sane.....I am however a very wise person, because I have been fortunate to learn from my experiences. I'm also compassionate, forgiving...kind. I have learned a myriad of things from my life experience....why would I not want to declare that to myself?

Thomas27's photo
Sun 11/22/09 08:24 PM
flowerforyou God Bless

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