Topic: (52%) now disapprove
Giocamo's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:21 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Sun 11/22/09 07:25 AM


Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me.

Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real.
slaphead grumble


It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America.

I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better.


I think I can honestly say that McCain would have done a better job...Obama has been a disaster...I know McCain wouldn't have blown a hole in the deficit...by insisting that we needed to spend 787 billion dollars or unemployment would reach 8%...I know McCain wouldn't have taken over two car companies and handed 60% over to the unions...I know McCain wouldn't be dictating how much money CEO's can earn...I know McCain wouldn't have nationalized the banks...I know McCain wouldn't have tried to shove government run healthcare down our throats when 85% of Americans are happy with their's...I know McCain wouldn't constantly run around and apologize for this great country...I know McCain does NOT see this country through the same lens a third world Dictator...the list goes on and on...and lastly...I know that Sarah Palin is much prettier then Plugs Biden...:smile: ...

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:25 AM
Noone knows if more guns would equal more or less deaths. Truly an impossible debate to even have. Maybe more guns would have meant some soldier would have immediately taken this man out but maybe it would have meant more bullets would have been flying from soldiers who were not quite as good a shot and could have killed many more in the crossfire...after all in wars, we all know that the citizens present are often'collateral damage' of trading gunfire.

willing2's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:27 AM



Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me.

Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real.
slaphead grumble


It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America.

I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better.


I think I can honestly say that McCain would have done a better job...Obama has been a disaster...I know McCain wouldn't have blown a hole in the deficit...I know McCain wouldn't have taken over two car companies and handed 60% over to the unions...I know McCain wouldn't be dictating how much money CEO's can earn...I know McCain wouldn't have nationalized the banks...I know McCain wouldn't have tried to shove government run healthcare down our throats when 85% of Americans are happy with their's...I know McCain wouldn't constantly run around and apologize for this great country...I know McCain does NOT see this country through the same lens a third world Dictator...the list goes on and on...and lastly...I know that Sarah Palin is much prettier then Plugs Biden...:smile: ...


You wouldn't believe how many extremist Muslim groups suppot Hussein.
Check out muslimsforobama.com
They are sponsored by obama.com and have all sorts of radical links.

Maybe, that's why he doesn't want to send more troops to Afghanastan. Might pi$$ of some of his biggest fans.

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:28 AM



Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me.

Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real.
slaphead grumble


It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America.

I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better.


I think I can honestly say that McCain would have done a better job...Obama has been a disaster...I know McCain wouldn't have blown a hole in the deficit...by insisting that we needed to spend 787 billion dollars or unemployment would reach 8%...I know McCain wouldn't have taken over two car companies and handed 60% over to the unions...I know McCain wouldn't be dictating how much money CEO's can earn...I know McCain wouldn't have nationalized the banks...I know McCain wouldn't have tried to shove government run healthcare down our throats when 85% of Americans are happy with their's...I know McCain wouldn't constantly run around and apologize for this great country...I know McCain does NOT see this country through the same lens a third world Dictator...the list goes on and on...and lastly...I know that Sarah Palin is much prettier then Plugs Biden...:smile: ...


You can change all the I KNOWS to I think or I believe. None of us know for sure. If everything you think were true, I still would not vote McCain,, what you said reinforced my opinion. He would have done plenty BUT work to do something about the underinsured, work to improve our education, work to improve our healthcare, work to improve our reputation around the world. HE may have helped the rich remain rich, but he would have done little else,,even by your own accolades. I wanted more and I think I got it.

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:31 AM
Edited by msharmony on Sun 11/22/09 07:33 AM




Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me.

Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real.
slaphead grumble


It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America.

I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better.


I think I can honestly say that McCain would have done a better job...Obama has been a disaster...I know McCain wouldn't have blown a hole in the deficit...I know McCain wouldn't have taken over two car companies and handed 60% over to the unions...I know McCain wouldn't be dictating how much money CEO's can earn...I know McCain wouldn't have nationalized the banks...I know McCain wouldn't have tried to shove government run healthcare down our throats when 85% of Americans are happy with their's...I know McCain wouldn't constantly run around and apologize for this great country...I know McCain does NOT see this country through the same lens a third world Dictator...the list goes on and on...and lastly...I know that Sarah Palin is much prettier then Plugs Biden...:smile: ...


You wouldn't believe how many extremist Muslim groups suppot Hussein.
Check out muslimsforobama.com
They are sponsored by obama.com and have all sorts of radical links.

Maybe, that's why he doesn't want to send more troops to Afghanastan. Might pi$$ of some of his biggest fans.


Sorry but thats a ridiculous assumption. Can you imagine how many klansmen and aryan extremists probably supported Bush,, maybe thats the reason he didnt do much by way of targeting some of their gun camps and training areas?....doubtful,,


IT is more likely Obama will make the decision about Afghanistan after counsel from people who actually UNDERSTAND combat and not likely that his decision will be affected by whether some muslims are supporting him or not. It isnt an attack on muslims, its an attack on terrorism,,,remember?

Giocamo's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:40 AM




Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me.

Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real.
slaphead grumble


It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America.

I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better.


I think I can honestly say that McCain would have done a better job...Obama has been a disaster...I know McCain wouldn't have blown a hole in the deficit...by insisting that we needed to spend 787 billion dollars or unemployment would reach 8%...I know McCain wouldn't have taken over two car companies and handed 60% over to the unions...I know McCain wouldn't be dictating how much money CEO's can earn...I know McCain wouldn't have nationalized the banks...I know McCain wouldn't have tried to shove government run healthcare down our throats when 85% of Americans are happy with their's...I know McCain wouldn't constantly run around and apologize for this great country...I know McCain does NOT see this country through the same lens a third world Dictator...the list goes on and on...and lastly...I know that Sarah Palin is much prettier then Plugs Biden...:smile: ...


You can change all the I KNOWS to I think or I believe. None of us know for sure. If everything you think were true, I still would not vote McCain,, what you said reinforced my opinion. He would have done plenty BUT work to do something about the underinsured, work to improve our education, work to improve our healthcare, work to improve our reputation around the world. HE may have helped the rich remain rich, but he would have done little else,,even by your own accolades. I wanted more and I think I got it.


you wanted more ?...more mysery...more unemployment...more people on food stamps...more homeless...more people going hungry...more government control...less freedom...more speeches...more indecision...more liberalism...like the mobfather says..." Obama is immature...inexperienced...and...in over his head ! "...:smile:

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:43 AM





Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me.

Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real.
slaphead grumble


It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America.

I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better.


I think I can honestly say that McCain would have done a better job...Obama has been a disaster...I know McCain wouldn't have blown a hole in the deficit...by insisting that we needed to spend 787 billion dollars or unemployment would reach 8%...I know McCain wouldn't have taken over two car companies and handed 60% over to the unions...I know McCain wouldn't be dictating how much money CEO's can earn...I know McCain wouldn't have nationalized the banks...I know McCain wouldn't have tried to shove government run healthcare down our throats when 85% of Americans are happy with their's...I know McCain wouldn't constantly run around and apologize for this great country...I know McCain does NOT see this country through the same lens a third world Dictator...the list goes on and on...and lastly...I know that Sarah Palin is much prettier then Plugs Biden...:smile: ...


You can change all the I KNOWS to I think or I believe. None of us know for sure. If everything you think were true, I still would not vote McCain,, what you said reinforced my opinion. He would have done plenty BUT work to do something about the underinsured, work to improve our education, work to improve our healthcare, work to improve our reputation around the world. HE may have helped the rich remain rich, but he would have done little else,,even by your own accolades. I wanted more and I think I got it.


you wanted more ?...more mysery...more unemployment...more people on food stamps...more homeless...more people going hungry...more government control...less freedom...more speeches...more indecision...more liberalism...like the mobfather says..." Obama is immature...inexperienced...and...in over his head ! "...:smile:


Not things I attribute to this administration. WE can agree to disagree strongly on those. We obviously just have differing political priorities, as evident by your non support of Clinton as well whom I think did a phenomenal job.

Giocamo's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:45 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Sun 11/22/09 07:50 AM






Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me.

Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real.
slaphead grumble


It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America.

I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better.


I think I can honestly say that McCain would have done a better job...Obama has been a disaster...I know McCain wouldn't have blown a hole in the deficit...by insisting that we needed to spend 787 billion dollars or unemployment would reach 8%...I know McCain wouldn't have taken over two car companies and handed 60% over to the unions...I know McCain wouldn't be dictating how much money CEO's can earn...I know McCain wouldn't have nationalized the banks...I know McCain wouldn't have tried to shove government run healthcare down our throats when 85% of Americans are happy with their's...I know McCain wouldn't constantly run around and apologize for this great country...I know McCain does NOT see this country through the same lens a third world Dictator...the list goes on and on...and lastly...I know that Sarah Palin is much prettier then Plugs Biden...:smile: ...


You can change all the I KNOWS to I think or I believe. None of us know for sure. If everything you think were true, I still would not vote McCain,, what you said reinforced my opinion. He would have done plenty BUT work to do something about the underinsured, work to improve our education, work to improve our healthcare, work to improve our reputation around the world. HE may have helped the rich remain rich, but he would have done little else,,even by your own accolades. I wanted more and I think I got it.


you wanted more ?...more mysery...more unemployment...more people on food stamps...more homeless...more people going hungry...more government control...less freedom...more speeches...more indecision...more liberalism...like the mobfather says..." Obama is immature...inexperienced...and...in over his head ! "...:smile:


Not things I attribute to this administration. WE can agree to disagree strongly on those. We obviously just have differing political priorities, as evident by your non support of Clinton as well whom I think did a phenomenal job.


because he had a Republican congress to hold his feet to the fire...look what you have now with the democRATS in control...not a pretty sight...I think the Clinton motto of " It's the economy stupid "...looks like they may have been speaking to Obama...just two short weeks ago he said " I want to get back to that post recession bubble "...that's called CAPITALISM !!!...

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:48 AM
LOVE IT!! Here is the formula...


Our candidate wins " every accomplishment is because of him and all the set backs are someone elses fault"

Our candidate loses ' every accomplishment is because of the PARTY holding office and not the president and every setback is DIRECTLY the presidents fault'


I swear this forum is endlessly hypocritical and inconsistent,, I dont know why I keep coming back..lol must be love

Giocamo's photo
Sun 11/22/09 07:56 AM

LOVE IT!! Here is the formula...


Our candidate wins " every accomplishment is because of him and all the set backs are someone elses fault"

Our candidate loses ' every accomplishment is because of the PARTY holding office and not the president and every setback is DIRECTLY the presidents fault'


I swear this forum is endlessly hypocritical and inconsistent,, I dont know why I keep coming back..lol must be love


just to let you know...the unemployment rate in Nov 2008 was 6%..in 2007 we had under employment...remember those days when companies couldn't find enough people to work...the rate then was around 5%...how you can blame Bush for an almost doubling of the rate when he was no longer in office...this is and has been Obamas economy...remember this...no country has ever taxed and spent it's way to prosperity...

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/22/09 08:03 AM
Just to let YOU know,,,(reported in november 2008)


U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have reached a 14-year high. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, unemployment climbed to 6.5 percent in October, as the country shed 240,000 jobs. U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have certainly increased--for example, the unemployment rate for October 2007 was 4.7 percent. So far this year, the country has lost 1.2 million jobs, and over half of the decrease took place in just the last three months. Some suggest the situation could grow more bleak: Goldman Sachs projects the unemployment rate will reach 8.5 percent by the end of 2009. Another source I spoke with recently believes it could soar as high as 10 percent in the near future.


inevitable increase in the rate regardless of who followed Bush.again, not something I agree can be DIRECTLY blamed on this administration.

Giocamo's photo
Sun 11/22/09 08:09 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Sun 11/22/09 08:14 AM

Just to let YOU know,,,(reported in november 2008)


U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have reached a 14-year high. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, unemployment climbed to 6.5 percent in October, as the country shed 240,000 jobs. U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have certainly increased--for example, the unemployment rate for October 2007 was 4.7 percent. So far this year, the country has lost 1.2 million jobs, and over half of the decrease took place in just the last three months. Some suggest the situation could grow more bleak: Goldman Sachs projects the unemployment rate will reach 8.5 percent by the end of 2009. Another source I spoke with recently believes it could soar as high as 10 percent in the near future.


inevitable increase in the rate regardless of who followed Bush.again, not something I agree can be DIRECTLY blamed on this administration.


you study is flawed...seeing that the unemployment rate is 10.2 percent NOT 8.5...also...we've lost over 3.5 million jobs since the stimulis was passed...500,000 people every week sign up for unemployment...the Fed says we're looking at 11 or 12 percent unemployment by the end of next year...and...could take several years to come back...

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/22/09 08:16 AM


Just to let YOU know,,,(reported in november 2008)


U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have reached a 14-year high. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, unemployment climbed to 6.5 percent in October, as the country shed 240,000 jobs. U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have certainly increased--for example, the unemployment rate for October 2007 was 4.7 percent. So far this year, the country has lost 1.2 million jobs, and over half of the decrease took place in just the last three months. Some suggest the situation could grow more bleak: Goldman Sachs projects the unemployment rate will reach 8.5 percent by the end of 2009. Another source I spoke with recently believes it could soar as high as 10 percent in the near future.


inevitable increase in the rate regardless of who followed Bush.again, not something I agree can be DIRECTLY blamed on this administration.


you study is flawed...seeing that the unemployment rate is 10.2 percent NOT 8.5...also...we've lost over 3.5 million jobs since the stimulis was passed...500,000 people every week sign up for unemployment...the Fed says we're looking at 11 or 12 percent unemploymeny by the end of next year...and...could take several years to come back...


they arent studies so much as projections, the numbers can be expected to have slight fluctuation. The point was that the downhill flow that began under bush was expected to rise and it has,,how much it would rise differed depending upon which projections you looked at but there were projections that stated we would be exactly where we are as well. So I dont agree that this situation is directly the result of this administration. AS to the job losses ,something else I feel was inevitable. My president said this would take time and I never thought it wouldnt.

Giocamo's photo
Sun 11/22/09 08:24 AM
Edited by Giocamo on Sun 11/22/09 08:24 AM



Just to let YOU know,,,(reported in november 2008)


U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have reached a 14-year high. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, unemployment climbed to 6.5 percent in October, as the country shed 240,000 jobs. U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have certainly increased--for example, the unemployment rate for October 2007 was 4.7 percent. So far this year, the country has lost 1.2 million jobs, and over half of the decrease took place in just the last three months. Some suggest the situation could grow more bleak: Goldman Sachs projects the unemployment rate will reach 8.5 percent by the end of 2009. Another source I spoke with recently believes it could soar as high as 10 percent in the near future.


inevitable increase in the rate regardless of who followed Bush.again, not something I agree can be DIRECTLY blamed on this administration.


you study is flawed...seeing that the unemployment rate is 10.2 percent NOT 8.5...also...we've lost over 3.5 million jobs since the stimulis was passed...500,000 people every week sign up for unemployment...the Fed says we're looking at 11 or 12 percent unemploymeny by the end of next year...and...could take several years to come back...


they arent studies so much as projections, the numbers can be expected to have slight fluctuation. The point was that the downhill flow that began under bush was expected to rise and it has,,how much it would rise differed depending upon which projections you looked at but there were projections that stated we would be exactly where we are as well. So I dont agree that this situation is directly the result of this administration. AS to the job losses ,something else I feel was inevitable. My president said this would take time and I never thought it wouldnt.


Obamas policies have made things worse...ask any small business man...he's wrecked the economy...like I said before ...when Bush left office...unemployment stood at 6.5%...thats a fact !!..look...he's asking for another stimulis but calling it a jobs bill...proving that the 787 was a waste...just as this next bill will be...it's not very hard...just let people keep more of what they earn...and get the fugg out of the way...free market capitalism...is how you grow the economy...like Bush said...you're either with us or against us...:smile:

willing2's photo
Sun 11/22/09 08:34 AM





Americans didn't have much of a choice this past election. It was a disgrace and the outcome was just as bad. Hind sight is 20/20. 2012 cannot come fast enough for me.

Kept americans in fear? Do you not think there are some things that are so serious that we need to keep our eyes on? Hmmm does Ft. Hood ring a bell? That was a terrorist right in our own military, attacked our own military. Tell me that's not real.
slaphead grumble


It is VERY real the way the mentally ill (whether christian or muslim) is overlooked and dismissed UNTIL a tragedy happens. There are many things serious enough to keep our eye on, but the threat of potential terrorism is not so serious as to ignore all the other ACTUAL issues IN PROGRESS right now. WE all have our opinions. Mine was to elect the nominee who addressed the things I was concerned with. Sorry, but mostly what I heard from the Mccain Palin ticket was his military record(which is a great asset, concerning our safety,, I agree). I didnt hear much significant discussion or concern about issues like education or healthcare or the economy which in my day to day life concern me much more urgently than the possibility (that has and always will be there) of some lunatics acting out against America.

I voted on the issues that were important to me and I stil stand by them because I have NO REASON to believe McCain/Palin would do any better.


I think I can honestly say that McCain would have done a better job...Obama has been a disaster...I know McCain wouldn't have blown a hole in the deficit...I know McCain wouldn't have taken over two car companies and handed 60% over to the unions...I know McCain wouldn't be dictating how much money CEO's can earn...I know McCain wouldn't have nationalized the banks...I know McCain wouldn't have tried to shove government run healthcare down our throats when 85% of Americans are happy with their's...I know McCain wouldn't constantly run around and apologize for this great country...I know McCain does NOT see this country through the same lens a third world Dictator...the list goes on and on...and lastly...I know that Sarah Palin is much prettier then Plugs Biden...:smile: ...


You wouldn't believe how many extremist Muslim groups suppot Hussein.
Check out muslimsforobama.com
They are sponsored by obama.com and have all sorts of radical links.

Maybe, that's why he doesn't want to send more troops to Afghanastan. Might pi$$ of some of his biggest fans.


Sorry but thats a ridiculous assumption. Can you imagine how many klansmen and aryan extremists probably supported Bush,, maybe thats the reason he didnt do much by way of targeting some of their gun camps and training areas?....doubtful,,


IT is more likely Obama will make the decision about Afghanistan after counsel from people who actually UNDERSTAND combat and not likely that his decision will be affected by whether some muslims are supporting him or not. It isnt an attack on muslims, its an attack on terrorism,,,remember?

I bet you haven't checked out the website or thei extremist connections/links.laugh laugh

Defend the loser to the last breath.

Correct me if I'm wrong but, as far as I can tell, the terrorists are Muslim. Duh?

msharmony's photo
Sun 11/22/09 08:36 AM




Just to let YOU know,,,(reported in november 2008)


U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have reached a 14-year high. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, unemployment climbed to 6.5 percent in October, as the country shed 240,000 jobs. U.S. unemployment rates under President Bush have certainly increased--for example, the unemployment rate for October 2007 was 4.7 percent. So far this year, the country has lost 1.2 million jobs, and over half of the decrease took place in just the last three months. Some suggest the situation could grow more bleak: Goldman Sachs projects the unemployment rate will reach 8.5 percent by the end of 2009. Another source I spoke with recently believes it could soar as high as 10 percent in the near future.


inevitable increase in the rate regardless of who followed Bush.again, not something I agree can be DIRECTLY blamed on this administration.


you study is flawed...seeing that the unemployment rate is 10.2 percent NOT 8.5...also...we've lost over 3.5 million jobs since the stimulis was passed...500,000 people every week sign up for unemployment...the Fed says we're looking at 11 or 12 percent unemploymeny by the end of next year...and...could take several years to come back...


they arent studies so much as projections, the numbers can be expected to have slight fluctuation. The point was that the downhill flow that began under bush was expected to rise and it has,,how much it would rise differed depending upon which projections you looked at but there were projections that stated we would be exactly where we are as well. So I dont agree that this situation is directly the result of this administration. AS to the job losses ,something else I feel was inevitable. My president said this would take time and I never thought it wouldnt.


Obamas policies have made things worse...ask any small business man...he's wrecked the economy...like I said before ...when Bush left office...unemployment stood at 6.5%...thats a fact !!..look...he's asking for another stimulis but calling it a jobs bill...proving that the 787 was a waste...just as this next bill will be...it's not very hard...just let people keep more of what they earn...and get the fugg out of the way...free market capitalism...is how you grow the economy...like Bush said...you're either with us or against us...:smile:


and THAT is exactly what IM glad to have voted against. I know small business owners who support obama completely. I dont feel he is the reason for the state of our economy. Free market capitalism stopped working so well lately and things need to evolve to something better.

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Sun 11/22/09 08:38 AM
Edited by peladac on Sun 11/22/09 08:38 AM
Msharmony girl although I disagree with you, you're holding your own pretty well.:thumbsup: you put up a good fight I gotta give you credit for that:wink:

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Sun 11/22/09 08:40 AM

Msharmony girl although I disagree with you, you're holding your own pretty well.:thumbsup: you put up a good fight I gotta give you credit for that:wink:


the feeling is mutual pedelac,,,,and I rarely agree with ANY of your opinions,,lol,,,but at least you stand up for what you believe.

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Sun 11/22/09 09:07 AM

Msharmony girl although I disagree with you, you're holding your own pretty well.:thumbsup: you put up a good fight I gotta give you credit for that:wink:

offtopic I think both of you girls are pretty hot!!flowerforyou flowerforyou

That's why, when I dissagree with msharmony, I have to close my eyes or I wouldn't be able to.:tongue: laugh

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Sun 11/22/09 09:24 AM


Msharmony girl although I disagree with you, you're holding your own pretty well.:thumbsup: you put up a good fight I gotta give you credit for that:wink:


the feeling is mutual pedelac,,,,and I rarely agree with ANY of your opinions,,lol,,,but at least you stand up for what you believe.


Wow, we agree on something:banana: laugh Yep, even though we are on opposite sides of the fence, we have to stand up for what we believe in. That's the beauty of a free Country. drinker