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FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 11/17/09 05:31 PM
"As this last breath leaves me
I am trying to be
What you're dying to see..."


This is really just out of curiosity. Apparently my idea that love doesn't exist is not widely popular, not that I wonder why...seems for the most part a lot of people fit the pen to the story and just write it before it happens. But this question isn't about that, or anything related to the opinions on my views.

I am apparently not savvy to the masses, more or less a lot of people probably can't invision dating me or being with me for more than maybe a week. Minus the few (I call them proud, but that makes me sound like the "Proud Parent" that I will never be), and taking into account majority opinion...should I change my views? And if so, why should I change them? If not, explain what about my views appeals to you.

laughsandgiggles's photo
Tue 11/17/09 05:34 PM
Why change what you believe in to make others happy? we are all individuals- we aren't sheep!!!

I really don't know what you believe in- and honestly im not concerned about it- I just think you shouldn't change who you are and what you stand for just to make others happy

you are who you are!!! everyone else just needs to deal with it!

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 11/17/09 05:38 PM

Why change what you believe in to make others happy? we are all individuals- we aren't sheep!!!

I really don't know what you believe in- and honestly im not concerned about it- I just think you shouldn't change who you are and what you stand for just to make others happy

you are who you are!!! everyone else just needs to deal with it!


I'm not changing, I was really just trying to get a perspective. I think I'm awesome, just ask me.smokin

laughsandgiggles's photo
Tue 11/17/09 05:40 PM


Why change what you believe in to make others happy? we are all individuals- we aren't sheep!!!

I really don't know what you believe in- and honestly im not concerned about it- I just think you shouldn't change who you are and what you stand for just to make others happy

you are who you are!!! everyone else just needs to deal with it!


I'm not changing, I was really just trying to get a perspective. I think I'm awesome, just ask me.smokin
laugh laugh thank you- i really needed that laugh- you have a great sense of "self" good for you!!!!laugh :wink:

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 11/17/09 05:41 PM



Why change what you believe in to make others happy? we are all individuals- we aren't sheep!!!

I really don't know what you believe in- and honestly im not concerned about it- I just think you shouldn't change who you are and what you stand for just to make others happy

you are who you are!!! everyone else just needs to deal with it!


I'm not changing, I was really just trying to get a perspective. I think I'm awesome, just ask me.smokin
laugh laugh thank you- i really needed that laugh- you have a great sense of "self" good for you!!!!laugh :wink:


No problem, just one portion of my awesomeness.smokin

laughsandgiggles's photo
Tue 11/17/09 05:45 PM




Why change what you believe in to make others happy? we are all individuals- we aren't sheep!!!

I really don't know what you believe in- and honestly im not concerned about it- I just think you shouldn't change who you are and what you stand for just to make others happy

you are who you are!!! everyone else just needs to deal with it!


I'm not changing, I was really just trying to get a perspective. I think I'm awesome, just ask me.smokin
laugh laugh thank you- i really needed that laugh- you have a great sense of "self" good for you!!!!laugh :wink:


No problem, just one portion of my awesomeness.smokin
ok-i'll agree- you ARE awesome laugh

moonlight_ride62's photo
Tue 11/17/09 06:21 PM
Edited by moonlight_ride62 on Tue 11/17/09 06:22 PM
I too really don't believe that love is real...I mean I know we love our kids and parents heck even our animals....but I think we just settle for a life partner or wife husband and program ourselves to follow through

Gator76's photo
Tue 11/17/09 06:37 PM

"As this last breath leaves me
I am trying to be
What you're dying to see..."


This is really just out of curiosity. Apparently my idea that love doesn't exist is not widely popular, not that I wonder why...seems for the most part a lot of people fit the pen to the story and just write it before it happens. But this question isn't about that, or anything related to the opinions on my views.

I am apparently not savvy to the masses, more or less a lot of people probably can't invision dating me or being with me for more than maybe a week. Minus the few (I call them proud, but that makes me sound like the "Proud Parent" that I will never be), and taking into account majority opinion...should I change my views? And if so, why should I change them? If not, explain what about my views appeals to you.



My wish for you is for your happiness. You determine that...more than anyone. Your views and opinions are yours...and I respect them. Just try an keep an open mind...embrace yourself first..then others. flowerforyou

Gator76's photo
Tue 11/17/09 06:42 PM

I too really don't believe that love is real...I mean I know we love our kids and parents heck even our animals....but I think we just settle for a life partner or wife husband and program ourselves to follow through


I am so sorry you feel this way...and that's not a criticism...I just find it sad. Love is real. I'm sorry you haven't found it or don't have it right now. Truly! But you are a beautiful woman...you are unique...there is only one of you...NEVER settle and stumble through life. Embrace every day...and I wish you the love of your life. :heart: flowerforyou

moonlight_ride62's photo
Tue 11/17/09 06:49 PM


I too really don't believe that love is real...I mean I know we love our kids and parents heck even our animals....but I think we just settle for a life partner or wife husband and program ourselves to follow through


I am so sorry you feel this way...and that's not a criticism...I just find it sad. Love is real. I'm sorry you haven't found it or don't have it right now. Truly! But you are a beautiful woman...you are unique...there is only one of you...NEVER settle and stumble through life. Embrace every day...and I wish you the love of your life. :heart: flowerforyou





you are very kind...maybe fear and loathing and I should hook up...and see who taps out first....:wink:

SunnyMcleod's photo
Tue 11/17/09 06:52 PM
Fear.

Stop. In the name of love!

No, srsly, you are awesome and I think your view on love is pretty much the closest thing to logic I've heard in a long time. You know what you know and there shouldn't be any need for you to change your ideals.

Sometimes I think the whole world is way to consumed with romantic ideals and some are even totally delusional about it.

krupa's photo
Tue 11/17/09 06:57 PM
Oh.....love is real Fear.

When you finally get a BJ that leaves you trying to pull 3' of sheets out of your butt, and you mean it when you say "I REALLLLLLY wanna see you again...."

Then, you will KNOW that love is real.

SunnyMcleod's photo
Tue 11/17/09 07:16 PM
That sounds like some goal krupa....

laugh

krupa's photo
Tue 11/17/09 07:23 PM

That sounds like some goal krupa....

laugh


Better than nothing Sunny!

Seriously, when I have been my most jaded and apathetic is when love has crept up behind me and jacked me upside the head. Leaving me mooning about like a love struck puppy.

(Though, the phenominal BJ is a nice way to pass the time until love does come knocking)

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 11/17/09 08:45 PM

Fear.

Stop. In the name of love!

No, srsly, you are awesome and I think your view on love is pretty much the closest thing to logic I've heard in a long time. You know what you know and there shouldn't be any need for you to change your ideals.

Sometimes I think the whole world is way to consumed with romantic ideals and some are even totally delusional about it.


I know I'm awesome. I ask myself everyday "am I awesome?" and everyday the answer is "yes, yes you are.". I'm just trying to find someone that has a suitable debate to counter the logic and math that goes hand in hand with what I think about love, main reason I posted this was to find someone who can counter my view of a logic flaw within love itself.

All I ever hear is how awesome love is, this and that, spin around and rerun the whole show. Start back at point A and the same argument spins around, love is awesome. Why? What makes love so awesome? What physical or mental trait about love makes people time and time again sit it on a pedestal so high above themselves...what is that? And why is it so high?

And further, why is the logical and mathmatical debate that it simply doesn't exist for the majority of people so hard to grasp? And...what is the counter argument?

Oh, by the way...have I mentioned how awesome I am...I'm just bubbling with awesomeness, that is how damn awesome I am.smokin

egsays's photo
Tue 11/17/09 09:11 PM
<font face="Georgia" size="3" color="555555">Not only does love exist... but there are more than one type of love. There is brotherly love, erotic love, motherly love, the love of GOD</font>

FearandLoathing's photo
Tue 11/17/09 09:14 PM

<font face="Georgia" size="3" color="555555">Not only does love exist... but there are more than one type of love. There is brotherly love, erotic love, motherly love, the love of GOD</font>


Not a good argument...I'm not looking for reasons that deal with religion, which I also don't believe in...

no photo
Tue 11/17/09 11:03 PM


Fear.

Stop. In the name of love!

No, srsly, you are awesome and I think your view on love is pretty much the closest thing to logic I've heard in a long time. You know what you know and there shouldn't be any need for you to change your ideals.

Sometimes I think the whole world is way to consumed with romantic ideals and some are even totally delusional about it.


I know I'm awesome. I ask myself everyday "am I awesome?" and everyday the answer is "yes, yes you are.". I'm just trying to find someone that has a suitable debate to counter the logic and math that goes hand in hand with what I think about love, main reason I posted this was to find someone who can counter my view of a logic flaw within love itself.

All I ever hear is how awesome love is, this and that, spin around and rerun the whole show. Start back at point A and the same argument spins around, love is awesome. Why? What makes love so awesome? What physical or mental trait about love makes people time and time again sit it on a pedestal so high above themselves...what is that? And why is it so high?

And further, why is the logical and mathmatical debate that it simply doesn't exist for the majority of people so hard to grasp? And...what is the counter argument?

Oh, by the way...have I mentioned how awesome I am...I'm just bubbling with awesomeness, that is how damn awesome I am.smokin


That's one thing I love about you- your awesomeness.love

no photo
Tue 11/17/09 11:06 PM
It's usually not really love, it's lust or infatuation, both of which fade over time.

no photo
Wed 11/18/09 09:03 AM

"As this last breath leaves me
I am trying to be
What you're dying to see..."


This is really just out of curiosity. Apparently my idea that love doesn't exist is not widely popular, not that I wonder why...seems for the most part a lot of people fit the pen to the story and just write it before it happens. But this question isn't about that, or anything related to the opinions on my views.

I am apparently not savvy to the masses, more or less a lot of people probably can't invision dating me or being with me for more than maybe a week. Minus the few (I call them proud, but that makes me sound like the "Proud Parent" that I will never be), and taking into account majority opinion...should I change my views? And if so, why should I change them? If not, explain what about my views appeals to you.



I don't think you should ever HAVE to change your views, and then only if you feel the NEED (combined with a realistic rationale) to do so.

The thing is, those beliefs, attitudes, opinions, have developed over time. We all have them, and because we've all lived different lives, we have differing perspectives. That doesn't make anybody "right" or "wrong" -- it just means their frame of reference isn't identical to ours.

My own belief is that love, if it exists in any meaningful sense at all, should result in a circumstance where both people's lives are enhanced. (I know this is extremely naive and idealistic, but I'm speaking from "pure concept" here.)

And I've never actually experienced that. Everyone I've ever been involved with has made my life worse; some worse than others, but it's always been a negative result. I readily admit that I probably had the same effect on theiir lives, too.

But once you've reached the conclusion that there isn't anybody out there who can really ADD anything to your existence, the obvious question is "Why bother with it?"

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