Yes, he did say that, many many times. Ironic isn't it -- what a
self-fulfilling assertion.

There were many of us who tried to advise this administration on how to
avoid these obvious mistakes, but the neocons thought they knew it all,
and in any case peace and good relations with the rest of the world was
NOT what they wanted, so making mistakes or not was not important to
them. I do not see President Bush as a neocon; I do think he became a
puppet to them. They flatter him into thinking he is a 'strong leader',
and Bush laps it up, and does their bidding. We see this pattern
manifest itself with each account of the inner workings of the
administration.

18 more months to go.



Oceans

Zap, yeah, you are right. A wise CEO listens....

For the record: I do not 'hate' Bush; I do have an utter contempt for
his inetllectual ability and leadership, but I see him as a victim of
the people he brought in to 'advise' him, and who are really running the
show.

There is no doubt that he will go down in history as the worst president
in my memory, and am sure a strong case can be made that he will go down
as the worst ever. Of course, his many weaknesses and mistakes are
amplfiied by the power that the US now wields. We may have had worse
presidents but at a time when America's power was small, so it didn't
make much of a difference on the rest of the world. But the US is
powerful, for the time being, and our mistakes can take a massive toll
on the US itself, and on the rest of the world.

This is not a happy time for the world. Eighteen more months will bring
us a new administration; we have yet to see how good it will prove to
be, but in any case the US faces decades of work to correct the effects
of the Bush administration, to say nothing of the lives we have ruined
for generations to come overseas.

The neocons will be rotting hell long before the task of righting the
wrongs of the Bush administration is accomplished, if they ever are.

I do not envy the next President, whoever he may be.

And yes, I think Al Gore would be as unpopular as Bush had Al Gore doen
the same things Bush has. But I think it is HIGHLY unlikely that Gore
would have done any of those things!





Oceans

I swear oceans, sometimes it scary. Where is that "mic" hidden here?
I know you've got me bugged!!!!

Oceans, I couldn't agree more.
I honestly think you could vote in a labotomized circus monkey and still
get the same results that Bush has provided.
I don't see him as being intelligent enough to "run" the country.
I think the same could be said for the majority of the nations on the
planet though. The "leaders" are just another face for the crowd.