Exactly

it's a jail like any other where it houses criminals. these people are locked up and would probably be in the for a long time any way...do you think they care if a fellow inamtes gets hurt?

Here's a more complete news story sans Obama comments for everyone:

Taken from:

http://www.ocregister.com/articles/county-ramirez-eisenberg-2370202-chamberlain-jail


County to pay $4 million to settle jail-beating lawsuit

County officials have agreed to pay more than $4 million to settle a lawsuit brought by an undocumented Mexican immigrant who was beaten by inmates while in custody at the Orange County jail, the man's attorney said Monday.

The settlement appears to be the largest ever paid by Orange County for an in-custody incident involving county sheriffs, according to county officials and the man's lawyer.

Fernando Ramirez, then 21, was left brain-damaged by inmates in Module A at the Orange County Central Jail in June 2006. He was jailed after a 6-year-old girl told her mother a stranger touched her over her clothes on her private parts at El Salvador Park in Santa Ana. Ramirez was charged with child molestation but eventually pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of non-sexual battery, said his attorney, Mark Eisenberg.

But Eisenberg said the jail's classification of his client contributed to the attack because other prisoners became aware of the sexual assault allegation. Deputies in charge of monitoring the jail that night were elsewhere in the jail when the attack occurred, Eisenberg said.

The ensuing beating left Ramirez with the intellect of a 4-year-old child. He is unable to walk unassisted and will need help for the rest of his life, said Eisenberg.

County officials declined comment on the settlement. However, a spokesman did confirm that the next highest pay out for an in-custody incident was a $650,000 settlement paid in 2002 to the family of a man who died in 1998 after scuffling with deputies in the jail.

County supervisors gave their lawyers authorization to settle the lawsuit earlier this month in a closed session.

Eisenberg said a final settlement was approved Apr. 17 and described the amount as $3.75 million for Ramirez's family along with nearly $900,000 to cover all outstanding medical liens for medical care rendered while in custody.

The attack occurred months before another highly publicized inmate jail beating which resulted in the death of John Derek Chamberlain, who had been jailed on suspicion of possessing child pornography.

After The Orange County Register published an investigation of deputies' role in that case, a criminal grand jury probed the Chamberlain beating.

The grand jury described a culture among deputies of lax oversight of prisoners as well as a culture of cover-up regarding deputy actions. Two assistant sheriffs and seven deputies resigned during the fallout from the grand jury investigation.

The disclosures from the Chamberlain grand jury, as well as the 2007 federal indictment of former Sheriff Mike Carona on unrelated corruption charges, presented challenges for the county during a jury trial.

"The county was vigorously fighting any effort by Ramirez and his counsel to have anything introduced from Chamberlain," Eisenberg said, adding that he reviewed such motions during trial preparations.

"I think the grand jury report was influential," he said. "I also think the criminal conviction of Sheriff Carona, albeit on the limited count of witness tampering, was also influential."

"It was a chapter in the county's history that needed to be closed. And these two factors, Chamberlain and Carona, played a role," Eisenberg said. "It certainly influenced the powers that be to conclude that this case was one that should be settled."

Eisenberg said his side also had challenges facing a conservative jury pool in Orange County, because of Ramirez's immigration status and the nature of his arrest.

"Both sides had problems," he said.

For example, Chamberlain's family accepted a settlement of $600,000 in large part because of the potential impact on jurors due to the sexual nature of the allegations against him.

Eisenberg called the settlement "fair" noting that it will take care of Ramirez's medical needs for the rest of his life. He credited county officials for "stepping up and doing the fair and responsible thing."

While County Supervisor John Moorlach would not comment on the details of the Ramirez settlement, he did say that Sheriff Sandra Hutchens has turned around a lax culture within the jails.

His chief of staff, Mario Mainero, recently took a tour of the jails and said the infrastructure, staff and inmates showed a very different attitude since his first jail tour in the wake of the Chamberlain death.

Moorlach also said several changes – such as cameras, more visible and mobile guards and a full shuffling of top managers – has helped to begin changing the culture that contributed to the Chamberlain and Ramirez beatings.

"We're seeing management get involved," Moorlach said. "And what I'm getting as feedback is that we're seeing dramatic change."

Wow.

Just wow.

You don't see the big deal about an illegal immigrant ( who shouldn't have had the RIGHT to sue in the first place ) getting MILLIONS of dollars because he got beat up in jail while he was in there for MOLESTING A KID????

You don't see the big deal???

You don't see the big deal in our elected leaders trying to get AMNESTY for all the illegals here???

NO biggie. Illegals are humans like me and you with the same human rights. If their human rights are violated they have legal recourse as it should be.

I agree in Bush's philosophy about the aliens who are here and established.

Wow.

So they have every right to be here illegally, right?? We shouldn't do anything about them if they have been here more than, what, two weeks?? Is that " established " enough??

They may have ' human rights ' but they should have NO rights to sue if they are not a citizen.

Why do I get the feeling that you an an ACLU supporter???

Happens all the time..it's the law of the jungle. Happens more than most know...if an inmate dies an inmate dies. Most don't care about these people in the prisons...they are not human to most, and deserve what they get.
The thing is..they are human..

While I stay neutral on the discussion about the illegal alien issue argument (above me), this whole thing reminds me of medieval times.
Justaguy mentioned ACLU and I had no idea what ACLU is and I browed around the website
I was just reading this:
(this has nothing to do with illegal aliens)


http://www.aclu.org/reproductiverights/gen/41233prs20091002.html?s_src=RSS

I am truly shocked and disgusted.

Don't try to label me and you will do much better.

Human rights are human rights regardless to what human we talk about.

Humans deserve to be treated as humans across the board.

That is all and that is enough.

I don't choose a side on the illegal alien issue either..
Some have issues with ACLU..think they are a group of s*** starters..
for some they are their only hope. As long as there are cruel inconsiderate
bastards in the world, groups like the ACLU are needed.

One thing the 8 year olds attorney could do is petition the court to freeze any funds and compensate the kid for him destroying her life.
Then, after he's done his time he can be deported with whatever funds, if any, he has left.
Remember, he made his bed. He could have avoided his fate by not jumping the fence and not jumping an 8 year old child.

I like that idea.

It could be used for counseling for her too.

I label nothing and no one.

The only thing I see is apathy.

" They are humans ".

Sorry. I just don't see a child molester as human in any way.

Child molesters are animals and should be treated as such.

Yep. He very well could have avoided this fate.

But he didn't. So that means all the bleeding hearts out there will try to brush this off ( no media coverage shows that it was swept under the rug pretty quickly ) and make excuses as to why a person who not only broke the law in being here illegally in the first place, but then FURTHER broke the law by molesting a child should be able to be granted millions upon millions of taxpayer ( which this guy NEVER was ) dollars for getting his *** whipped in prison.

" Well....criminals are humans too "....

Yeah..so much so that most of them, other than being locked up, live better than I do.

David Letterman is newsworthy but not this?

EXACTLY!!!!

The President gets a BJ a few years ago....people FREAKED.

Letterman is big news right now.

An illegal alien child molester getting MILLIONS because he got his *** kicked doesn't warrant anything more than a quick blurb in a newspaper.

Pathetic.

It's connected to Hussein because he refuses to have our Immigration Laws enforced.

Beings the Illegal actually survived tells me the cops were pretty close.
Had thay just turned a blind eye, the job would have resulted in a corpse and not just some injuries.

I saw in the news about BHO going out for his anniversary. but this isn't worth it?

Nope. It's not NEARLY as important as the latest Paris Hilton/Lindsay Lohan/insert your favorite " celebrity " here news either.

How do we know if there was no media coverage about this?