Topic: Obama's Speech For The Children.
yellowrose10's photo
Tue 09/08/09 01:56 PM


I don't get the whole carrying on myself. I talked to my sister about all of this because she is the exact opposite of me (in EVERYTHING)laugh she is a bleeding heart, tree hugging liberal and she calls me a gun toting, wabbit killing redneck conservative lol. she doesn't understand the fuss either but she is glad the schools here have let the parents decide to let their kids watch what ever president they want. then she wanted to hold hands and sing kumbaya laugh


Did you sing it? laugh


no I told her to go hug a tree and she told me to hunt wabbits laugh

Winx's photo
Tue 09/08/09 01:57 PM


Cool, I want to see it. I want my child to see it too.

Winx's photo
Tue 09/08/09 01:57 PM



I don't get the whole carrying on myself. I talked to my sister about all of this because she is the exact opposite of me (in EVERYTHING)laugh she is a bleeding heart, tree hugging liberal and she calls me a gun toting, wabbit killing redneck conservative lol. she doesn't understand the fuss either but she is glad the schools here have let the parents decide to let their kids watch what ever president they want. then she wanted to hold hands and sing kumbaya laugh


Did you sing it? laugh


no I told her to go hug a tree and she told me to hunt wabbits laugh

Too funny.laugh

franshade's photo
Tue 09/08/09 01:57 PM

Got a question.
If there was nothing offensive, why did he change the speech?

Does it matter, what was said was not offensive?

I was going to wear red shoes today, but changed my mind. Is that too a conspiracy?


willing2's photo
Tue 09/08/09 01:58 PM

Got a question.
If there was nothing offensive, why did he change the speech?

Can anyone answer why?
Nobody reads the bottom of the page.grumble laugh

willing2's photo
Tue 09/08/09 02:02 PM


Got a question.
If there was nothing offensive, why did he change the speech?

Does it matter, what was said was not offensive?

I was going to wear red shoes today, but changed my mind. Is that too a conspiracy?



The edited version was ok.

One point is, by him changing it shows me, we the People don't have to just bend over everytime Gov. wants to force their will on us.


Winx's photo
Tue 09/08/09 02:04 PM


Got a question.
If there was nothing offensive, why did he change the speech?

Does it matter, what was said was not offensive?

I was going to wear red shoes today, but changed my mind. Is that too a conspiracy?




You changed your mind?!shocked

I think he made a rough draft, btw. I taught my child to do that when they write papers or speeches.

willing2's photo
Tue 09/08/09 02:15 PM



Got a question.
If there was nothing offensive, why did he change the speech?

Does it matter, what was said was not offensive?

I was going to wear red shoes today, but changed my mind. Is that too a conspiracy?



The edited version was ok.

One point is, by him changing it shows me, we the People don't have to just bend over everytime Gov. wants to force their will on us.



Just thought about it and where I live, 10% of the 1st-5th grade students understand and speak English.
6th-8th graders, about 50% don't speake English or understand it well.

For those two groups, the speech would have gone over most of their heads.

9th grade-12th, they no longer get translators.

ArtGurl's photo
Tue 09/08/09 02:16 PM
Edited by ArtGurl on Tue 09/08/09 02:22 PM
I don't see what is 'scary' about this at all ...

Encouraging personal responsibility, encouraging growth and greatness ... letting young people know that they have value and contributions to make ...

Seems like an enlightened thing to me ...



What I do find scary, however, is the presence and tactics of the US Military in schools recruiting your children.

That is something that ought to be truly scary for a parent ... they know more about your children than you do ...

http://www.truthout.org/090809E?n

Atlantis75's photo
Tue 09/08/09 02:18 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Tue 09/08/09 02:18 PM
ding dong ding dong! think think

Reminder for those who missed this report in 2007.


U.S. Teens Trail Peers Around World on Math-Science Test


The disappointing performance of U.S. teenagers in math and science on an international exam, in scores released yesterday, has sparked calls for improvement in public schools to help the country keep pace in the global economy.

The scores from the 2006 Program for International Student Assessment showed that U.S. 15-year-olds trailed their peers from many industrialized countries. The average science score of U.S. students lagged behind those in 16 of 30 countries in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development, a Paris-based group that represents the world's richest countries. The U.S. students were further behind in math, trailing counterparts in 23 countries.

"How are our children going to be able to compete with the children of the world? The answer is not well," said former Colorado governor Roy Romer, chairman of Strong American Schools, a nonpartisan group seeking to make education prominent in the 2008 presidential election.

The PISA test, given every three years, measures the ability of 15-year-olds to apply math and science knowledge in real-life contexts. About 400,000 students, including 5,600 in the United States, took the 2006 exam. There is also a reading portion, but results for U.S. students were thrown out because the tests were printed incorrectly.

Students in Finland received the top scores in science and math. Mexico was at the bottom.

The PISA results underscore concerns that too few U.S. students are prepared to become engineers, scientists and physicians, and that the country might lose ground to competitors. An expert panel appointed last year by President Bush is preparing to recommend ways to improve public school math instruction, with a focus on algebra.

Former West Virginia governor Bob Wise, president of the Alliance for Excellent Education, a group seeking to improve high schools, said the scores show a need for more training and support for math and science teachers. He also said the federal government should encourage states to agree on common education standards so that all students are working toward the same targets.

"This, to me, is the Olympics of academics," Wise said, "and we need to respond to it."

PISA, first administered in 2000, covers reading, math and science. But each time the test is given, it focuses in depth on one subject. Last year's exam spotlighted science, covering concepts in physics, chemistry, biology and earth and space science.

Mark S. Schneider, commissioner of the National Center for Education Statistics in the Education Department, said the exam isn't designed to measure a student's recall of facts. Instead, he said, it tests a student's ability to apply knowledge using "more sophisticated concepts and deeper reasoning skills."

On the science portion, U.S. students, most of them 10th-graders, received an average score of 489 on a 1,000-point scale, 11 points below the average of the 30 countries. Canada, Japan and Korea were among the countries in which students outperformed U.S. counterparts. U.S. students were on par with peers in eight countries and outperformed those from five others.

In math, only four countries had average scores lower than the United States. Students in 23 countries had a higher average score, and those in two countries did about the same as the Americans.

The ranking of U.S. students in math and science is about the same as it was in 2003.

Education Secretary Margaret Spellings said that the results were disappointing but that the National Math Advisory Panel and other initiatives are in motion to bolster math and science education. The ranking "speaks to what President Bush has long been advocating for: more rigor in our nation's high schools; additional resources for advanced courses to prepare students for college-level studies; and stronger math and science education," she said in a statement.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/04/AR2007120400730.html



Dragoness's photo
Tue 09/08/09 02:20 PM


Got a question.
If there was nothing offensive, why did he change the speech?

Can anyone answer why?
Nobody reads the bottom of the page.grumble laugh


I can tell you why, because he is a nice guy and is trying desperately to end the divisiveness in this nation.

It had nothing to do with something being wrong in it at all.

Winx's photo
Tue 09/08/09 02:55 PM
Local students listen to Obama's speech
ST. LOUIS POST-DISPATCH
09/08/2009

UPDATE: 12 P.M. TUESDAY

At Bunche Middle, students cheered and clapped when Obama appeared and sat patiently during the speech, despite technical difficulties that caused lots of stops and starts in the video.

The students had been given text of the speech before it began. Now, students are back in classrooms discussing the speech and its main points.

"I think they're very excited," said Linda Slane, a science teacher. "It really gives them the truth in the statement that you can be anything that you want."

At the Brittany Woods Middle School in University City, about 85 students, most of them 7th graders, gathered in a small auditorium to watch the president's address during their lunch period. The seventh-graders were part of a team that takes social studies, communication arts, science and math together.

The students mostly paid attention, although teachers had to encourage listening a couple times.

The students planned to discuss four areastopics after the speech: goals; persistence; personal responsibility; and strength.

Astra Alsobrook, a social studies teacher, was to lead the conversation. "I was not hesitant about the students viewing the address. I feel that it's very important that a child see the words of the president," she said.

Of critics of the president's speach, she said: "I wonder if they would have been so critical if the president weren't black.

She said the speech aligned nicely with seventh-grade social studies curriculum because that's the year the students are asked to come up with career goals.

Student Raven Harry, 12, said she didn't feel the president was trying to improperly influence students. "He spoke to you mostly about yourself, and not like what he believed," said Raven, who describes herself as a political independent.

franshade's photo
Tue 09/08/09 03:01 PM



Got a question.
If there was nothing offensive, why did he change the speech?

Does it matter, what was said was not offensive?

I was going to wear red shoes today, but changed my mind. Is that too a conspiracy?



The edited version was ok.

One point is, by him changing it shows me, we the People don't have to just bend over everytime Gov. wants to force their will on us.


blushing sorry got a visual blushing

flowers

willing2's photo
Tue 09/08/09 03:23 PM




Got a question.
If there was nothing offensive, why did he change the speech?

Does it matter, what was said was not offensive?

I was going to wear red shoes today, but changed my mind. Is that too a conspiracy?



The edited version was ok.

One point is, by him changing it shows me, we the People don't have to just bend over everytime Gov. wants to force their will on us.


blushing sorry got a visual blushing

flowers

<<<Yea, if they wanted a piece of this, I'd expect a little sweet talk, flowers and maybe dinner.

I got fooled once by the Dr. that did the colonoscopy. He gave me a date rape drug. Won't fool me twice. He gonna' have to earn th' pleasure!

I may be cheap but, I ain't free.rofl rofl

franshade's photo
Tue 09/08/09 03:26 PM





Got a question.
If there was nothing offensive, why did he change the speech?

Does it matter, what was said was not offensive?

I was going to wear red shoes today, but changed my mind. Is that too a conspiracy?



The edited version was ok.

One point is, by him changing it shows me, we the People don't have to just bend over everytime Gov. wants to force their will on us.


blushing sorry got a visual blushing

flowers

<<<Yea, if they wanted a piece of this, I'd expect a little sweet talk, flowers and maybe dinner.

I got fooled once by the Dr. that did the colonoscopy. He gave me a date rape drug. Won't fool me twice. He gonna' have to earn th' pleasure!

I may be cheap but, I ain't free.rofl rofl


but are you on sale? flowers

offtopic sorry OP

willing2's photo
Tue 09/08/09 03:28 PM
:thumbsup:






Got a question.
If there was nothing offensive, why did he change the speech?

Does it matter, what was said was not offensive?

I was going to wear red shoes today, but changed my mind. Is that too a conspiracy?



The edited version was ok.

One point is, by him changing it shows me, we the People don't have to just bend over everytime Gov. wants to force their will on us.


blushing sorry got a visual blushing

flowers

<<<Yea, if they wanted a piece of this, I'd expect a little sweet talk, flowers and maybe dinner.

I got fooled once by the Dr. that did the colonoscopy. He gave me a date rape drug. Won't fool me twice. He gonna' have to earn th' pleasure!

I may be cheap but, I ain't free.rofl rofl


but are you on sale? flowers

offtopic sorry OP

Could be, especially if you still wanna' do some fishin'.:thumbsup:

franshade's photo
Tue 09/08/09 03:29 PM

:thumbsup:






Got a question.
If there was nothing offensive, why did he change the speech?

Does it matter, what was said was not offensive?

I was going to wear red shoes today, but changed my mind. Is that too a conspiracy?



The edited version was ok.

One point is, by him changing it shows me, we the People don't have to just bend over everytime Gov. wants to force their will on us.


blushing sorry got a visual blushing

flowers

<<<Yea, if they wanted a piece of this, I'd expect a little sweet talk, flowers and maybe dinner.

I got fooled once by the Dr. that did the colonoscopy. He gave me a date rape drug. Won't fool me twice. He gonna' have to earn th' pleasure!

I may be cheap but, I ain't free.rofl rofl


but are you on sale? flowers

offtopic sorry OP

Could be, especially if you still wanna' do some fishin'.:thumbsup:


listen for you I'd hook a worm :wink:


offtopic again apologies OP - I'll be good pitchfork

Atlantis75's photo
Tue 09/08/09 04:15 PM
Edited by Atlantis75 on Tue 09/08/09 04:15 PM
Of critics of the president's speach, she said: "I wonder if they would have been so critical if the president weren't black.


Dunno who wrote the blog, but first, it's speech, not speach.


It's so easy to loose credibility if we can't spell or got grammar problems, makes the article loose credibility fast.


Second, about the comment: The president is not "black". He is a mulatto and grew up mostly with his white mother and grandparents. If you ask an African American, he or she will tell you, that Pres. Obama is more white than black, when it comes to his way of doing things. His physical appearance continues to be a problem for many, I have no doubt.

msharmony's photo
Tue 09/08/09 04:58 PM
Second, about the comment: The president is not "black". He is a mulatto and grew up mostly with his white mother and grandparents. If you ask an African American, he or she will tell you, that Pres. Obama is more white than black, when it comes to his way of doing things. His physical appearance continues to be a problem for many, I have no doubt.
....

the president is indeed black, I am an african american, a black man is his father so that makes him black. A white woman is his mom so it also makes him white. Noone is pure anything, but I imagine his life has been closer to that of a black man than a white man in how others perceived and treated him because to most anyone who hadnt been told his history he would indeed be assumed black.

His race doesnt matter except in a historical context that he is the first american from a black parent, let alone two. But its easier to say he is the first black president.

Winx's photo
Tue 09/08/09 04:59 PM
Edited by Winx on Tue 09/08/09 05:09 PM

Of critics of the president's speach, she said: "I wonder if they would have been so critical if the president weren't black.


Dunno who wrote the blog, but first, it's speech, not speach.


It's so easy to loose credibility if we can't spell or got grammar problems, makes the article loose credibility fast.


Second, about the comment: The president is not "black". He is a mulatto and grew up mostly with his white mother and grandparents. If you ask an African American, he or she will tell you, that Pres. Obama is more white than black, when it comes to his way of doing things. His physical appearance continues to be a problem for many, I have no doubt.


Oops. Sorry. Forgot the link.

I would consider the misspelled word to be a typo. Somebody didn't proof it well.

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/education/story/874F0847D0794A488625762B005CD638?OpenDocument

Also, Obama is a black man. When he walks down the street, he's a black man. When he looks in the mirror, he sees a black man. His children see a black father. He's been treated like he's a black man his whole life. On paper...he's black too. When he fills out the census form, he's black. Yes, he has a white mother but in this country, he's still considered to be black.

I have a cousin that has a black father and a white mother. She has to fill out her race on forms as black too.

Sadly, the one drop rule is still around. We're the only country in the world that does that.