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Topic: Violence in the world .
tohyup's photo
Sat 10/24/09 12:33 PM

Human nature and the evolution of our species makes the prospect of "peace", an impossibility. Our psyches are programed to retain our most primal instincts for dominance, acceptance and conformity to our ideals and to eradicate perceived weaknesses to aid in the survival of the species.

Unless there is a way to mass reprogram the human psyche and eliminate the core primal survival instinct, our concept of peace can never exist.

Most people I know and meet are peace loving, law abiding citizens and hate both crimes and violence . So where did you get your conclusion that peace will never exist ?.

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Mon 11/02/09 12:10 PM
i didnt go through and read all the posts but would peace ever exist and the answer is no. Religious battles are the main cause of this. And a side note to all of this being that i live in mass in the USA and i can see why all the rest of the world hates us. we have troops in so many other country's. there are still troops stationed in germany. how would we feel if there were just random army bases of other country's just down the street from where we live? and im not saying its just us. almost every political system is caught up and tied down by power and corruption. abraham lincoln once said (or someone who wrote about his life either way) "There are no accidents in my philosophy. Every effect must have its cause. The past is the cause of the present, and the present will be the cause of the future. All these are links in the endless chain stretching from the finite to the infinite." Throughout history there has been conflict and war. it will never stop despite numerous efforts. its out of our control and there is nothing we can do or say to stop it. Money is the root of all evil and sadly there is no way to move through life with out it.

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Mon 11/02/09 12:14 PM

i didnt go through and read all the posts but would peace ever exist and the answer is no. Religious battles are the main cause of this. And a side note to all of this being that i live in mass in the USA and i can see why all the rest of the world hates us. we have troops in so many other country's. there are still troops stationed in germany. how would we feel if there were just random army bases of other country's just down the street from where we live? and im not saying its just us. almost every political system is caught up and tied down by power and corruption. abraham lincoln once said (or someone who wrote about his life either way) "There are no accidents in my philosophy. Every effect must have its cause. The past is the cause of the present, and the present will be the cause of the future. All these are links in the endless chain stretching from the finite to the infinite." Throughout history there has been conflict and war. it will never stop despite numerous efforts. its out of our control and there is nothing we can do or say to stop it. Money is the root of all evil and sadly there is no way to move through life with out it.



Well now I call that acceptance. laugh :tongue:

Find peace within. flowerforyou To hell with everything else. bigsmile

averagejoe35's photo
Mon 11/02/09 12:20 PM
haha ty ty. its really how i truly look at it. buddhist's have it right and that's what ive started to practice

tohyup's photo
Mon 11/02/09 04:11 PM

i didnt go through and read all the posts but would peace ever exist and the answer is no. Religious battles are the main cause of this. And a side note to all of this being that i live in mass in the USA and i can see why all the rest of the world hates us. we have troops in so many other country's. there are still troops stationed in germany. how would we feel if there were just random army bases of other country's just down the street from where we live? and im not saying its just us. almost every political system is caught up and tied down by power and corruption. Abraham Lincoln once said (or someone who wrote about his life either way) "There are no accidents in my philosophy. Every effect must have its cause. The past is the cause of the present, and the present will be the cause of the future. All these are links in the endless chain stretching from the finite to the infinite." Throughout history there has been conflict and war. it will never stop despite numerous efforts. its out of our control and there is nothing we can do or say to stop it. Money is the root of all evil and sadly there is no way to move through life with out it.

These are wise words from a wise man .
However we as humans are not doing enough to stop wars and violence .
The US has more than 300 million people but few take to the streets and say no to wars, no to bullying, no to injustice and yes to peace . It is our duty as humans to talk and encourage peace and to fight against any war and any violence . The Pacifists and the Humanists are doing a superb job spreading the words of wisdom and reason and we should all do the same . drinker waving waving

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Mon 11/02/09 08:51 PM
i agree with u on that aspect that not enough effort is put in to make an impact. the truth of it all is that the youth need to organize and unite. the youth's voice can be very powerful as we have seen in the past. i think that if this pointless war we are fighting now starts to excalate and still doesnt end. there will be an uprising or revolution. power is in numbers and i can easily say if we dont start to change as a Nation(USA) my voice might start being heard. The big thing is we need some musical artists and movie icons to start to be heard more. cause the media is great way to get your ideas heard by alot of people at once.

tohyup's photo
Wed 11/04/09 02:55 PM
The problem with the media is the fact that they do not represent the people but they work and support the Administration in any path it goes like the blind following the blind even towards a huge precipice .

averagejoe35's photo
Wed 11/04/09 06:09 PM
this is true the media will twist and turn everything u say to make u look bad.

tohyup's photo
Sat 11/07/09 02:17 PM

this is true the media will twist and turn everything u say to make u look bad.

The media is a part of the problem and their propaganda should be an ILLEGAL and a criminal act . People believe the media and the media keep on feeding them all kings of Administration agenda regardless of the outcomes . The best example on that is the two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan . Peace is nice and we should all do our part to achieve it . Those who want wars and violence have nothing good to contribute on this planet and therefore are not welcome to be listen to or followed .

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Sat 11/07/09 02:55 PM
this is true the media will twist and turn everything u say to make u look bad.
The media is a part of the problem and their propaganda should be an ILLEGAL and a criminal act . People believe the media and the media keep on feeding them all kings of Administration agenda regardless of the outcomes . The best example on that is the two wars in Iraq and Afghanistan . Peace is nice and we should all do our part to achieve it . Those who want wars and violence have nothing good to contribute on this planet and therefore are not welcome to be listen to or followed .
I have to agree that, in general, "the mass media" tends to focus solely on conflict, crime, corruption, disaster, etc., etc. The more horrific the story, the longer it runs.

And if their purpose is to "report the state of the world", then they are failing miserably by reporting only one side of it.

I don't really think they are necessarily oriented toward feeding us administrative agenda. One of their biggest focuses is "what's wrong with the administrative agenda". As such, they are doing the exact same thing there as they do everywhere else - feed us conflict and disaster.

In short, it doesn't matter what is happening or where - they're "agenda" seems to be to always feed us the worst of it.

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Sun 11/08/09 06:33 AM

In short, it doesn't matter what is happening or where - they're "agenda" seems to be to always feed us the worst of it.


I couldn't agree more. Which is why I try and watch/hear as little of it as possible. I have to keep up on what's going on because of my job, but I only need to listen for a few minutes a day to do that.

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Mon 11/09/09 02:22 PM
the media is corrupt which completely and honestly the truth. and i also agree you only see what they want u to see. and manipulate reality into what they want reality to be

tohyup's photo
Mon 11/09/09 07:31 PM


In short, it doesn't matter what is happening or where - they're "agenda" seems to be to always feed us the worst of it.


I couldn't agree more. Which is why I try and watch/hear as little of it as possible. I have to keep up on what's going on because of my job, but I only need to listen for a few minutes a day to do that.

It is said that the people are the power but it is always the opposite : the Administration does what it wants and the media cherish it and encourage its agenda . Good is harder than bad. Peace is harder than wars and destruction .

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Fri 11/13/09 05:34 PM
I am not only a pacifist but a militant pacifist. I am willing to fight for peace. Nothing will end war unless the people themselves refuse to go to war. - albert einstein

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