In a New York minute!
Why is it people believe there are only two parties?
I'm all in favor of getting rid of Repubs and Dems and going strictly Constitutionalist.

Here's another good read. Appears Joe and Joe Jr. could have made for a couple good skin-heads.


Joseph Kennedy and the Jews
By Edward Renehan, Jr.
Mr. Renehan's most recent book is The Kennedys at War, 1937-1945, published in April 2002 by Doubleday.
http://hnn.us/articles/697.html

I agree that you should have that choice, but I'm staying anarcho-libertarian myself.

The Kennedys are American royalty and the common people know the good they did for us all down through all these decades.They made this country a better place,and did far more good than bad.We know what the score is

There is no such thing as "American Royalty" or "common" people. We are all equals here. Those terms are offensive.

yeah, no kidding. I seem to recall there was a hell of a bloody war fought over the issue.

an outhouse by any other name still stinks the same

HNNHistory News Network Because the Past is the Present, and the Future too.
04-29-02

Joseph Kennedy and the Jews
By Edward Renehan, Jr.

Arriving at London in early 1938, newly-appointed U.S. Ambassador Joseph P. Kennedy took up quickly with another transplanted American. Viscountess Nancy Witcher Langhorne Astor assured Kennedy early in their friendship that he should not be put off by her pronounced and proud anti-Catholicism.

"I'm glad you are smart enough not to take my [views] personally," she wrote. Astor pointed out that she had a number of Roman Catholic friends - G.K. Chesterton among them - with whom she shared, if nothing else, a profound hatred for the Jewish race. Joe Kennedy, in turn, had always detested Jews generally, although he claimed several as friends individually. Indeed, Kennedy seems to have tolerated the occasional Jew in the same way Astor tolerated the occasional Catholic.

As fiercely anti-Communist as they were anti-Semitic, Kennedy and Astor looked upon Adolf Hitler as a welcome solution to both of these "world problems" (Nancy's phrase). No member of the so-called "Cliveden Set" (the informal cabal of appeasers who met frequently at Nancy Astor's palatial home) seemed much concerned with the dilemma faced by Jews under the Reich. Astor wrote Kennedy that Hitler would have to do more than just "give a rough time" to "the killers of Christ" before she'd be in favor of launching "Armageddon to save them. The wheel of history swings round as the Lord would have it. Who are we to stand in the way of the future?" Kennedy replied that he expected the "Jew media" in the United States to become a problem, that "Jewish pundits in New York and Los Angeles" were already making noises contrived to "set a match to the fuse of the world."


During May of 1938, Joe Kennedy engaged in extensive discussions with the new German Ambassador to the Court of St. James's, Herbert von Dirksen. In the midst of these conversations (held without approval from the U.S. State Department), Kennedy advised von Dirksen that President Roosevelt was the victim of "Jewish influence" and was poorly informed as to the philosophy, ambitions and ideals of Hitler's regime. (The Nazi ambassador subsequently told his bosses that Kennedy was "Germany's best friend" in London.)

Columnists back in the states condemned Kennedy's fraternizing. Kennedy later claimed that 75% of the attacks made on him during his Ambassadorship emanated from "a number of Jewish publishers and writers. ... Some of them in their zeal did not hesitate to resort to slander and falsehood to achieve their aims." He told his eldest son, Joe Jr., that he disliked having to put up with "Jewish columnists" who criticized him with no good reason.

Like his father, Joe Jr. admired Adolf Hitler. Young Joe had come away impressed by Nazi rhetoric after traveling in Germany as a student in 1934. Writing at the time, Joe applauded Hitler's insight in realizing the German people's "need of a common enemy, someone of whom to make the goat. Someone, by whose riddance the Germans would feel they had cast out the cause of their predicament. It was excellent psychology, and it was too bad that it had to be done to the Jews. The dislike of the Jews, however, was well-founded. They were at the heads of all big business, in law etc. It is all to their credit for them to get so far, but their methods had been quite unscrupulous ... the lawyers and prominent judges were Jews, and if you had a case against a Jew, you were nearly always sure to lose it. ... As far as the brutality is concerned, it must have been necessary to use some ... ."

Brutality was in the eye of the beholder. Writing to Charles Lindbergh shortly after Kristallnacht in November of 1938, Joe Kennedy Sr. seemed more concerned about the political ramifications stemming from high-profile, riotous anti-Semitism than he was about the actual violence done to the Jews. "... Isn't there some way," he asked, "to persuade [the Nazis] it is on a situation like this that the whole program of saving western civilization might hinge? It is more and more difficult for those seeking peaceful solutions to advocate any plan when the papers are filled with such horror." Clearly, Kennedy's chief concern about Kristallnacht was that it might serve to harden anti-fascist sentiment at home in the United States.

Like his friend Charles Coughlin (an anti-Semitic broadcaster and Roman Catholic priest), Kennedy always remained convinced of what he believed to be the Jews' corrupt, malignant, and profound influence in American culture and politics. "The Democratic [party] policy of the United States is a Jewish production," Kennedy told a British reporter near the end of 1939, adding confidently that Roosevelt would "fall" in 1940.

But it wasn't Roosevelt who fell. Kennedy resigned his ambassadorship just weeks after FDR's overwhelming triumph at the polls. He then retreated to his home in Florida: a bitter, resentful man nurturing religious and racial bigotries that put him out-of-step with his country, and out-of-touch with history.

Some of the good things about Ted Kennedy: Condensed version from Wiki.

A United States Senator from Massachusetts and a member of the Democratic Party. In office from November 1962 until his death, Kennedy served nine terms in the Senate. At the time of his death, he was the second most senior member of the Senate, and the third-longest-serving senator in U.S. history. He was best known as one of the most outspoken and effective Senate proponents of progressive causes and bills.

He served in the Army. He worked as an assistant district attorney for Suffolk County, Massachusetts.

More than 300 bills that Kennedy and his staff wrote were enacted into law. He was known for working with Republicans and finding compromises among senators with disparate views. Kennedy played a major role in passing many laws, including laws addressing immigration, cancer research, health insurance, apartheid, disability discrimination, AIDS care, civil rights, mental health benefits, children's health insurance, education and volunteering.

He was a leader in pushing through the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965, which ended a quota system based upon national origin. He also played a role in creation of the National Teachers Corps.

Regarding Viet Nahm - Kennedy held hearings on the plight of refugees in the conflict, which revealed that the U.S. government had no coherent policy for refugees. Kennedy also tried to reform "unfair" and "inequitable" aspects of the draft.

After his brothers' deaths, Ted Kennedy took on the role of surrogate father for their 13 children.

1970s

Kennedy became chair of the Senate subcommittee on health care and played a leading role in the creation and passage of the National Cancer Act of 1971. In scores of anti-war speeches, Kennedy opposed President Richard Nixon's policy of Vietnamization, calling it "a policy of violence [that] means more and more war."

In the wake of the Watergate scandal, Kennedy pushed campaign finance reform; he was a leading force behind passage of the Federal Election Campaign Act Amendments of 1974, which set contribution limits and established public financing for presidential elections.

Kennedy visited China on a goodwill mission in late December 1977, meeting with leader Deng Xiaoping and eventually gaining permission for a number of Chinese to leave the country.

1980s

Kennedy became a committed champion of women's issues and of gay rights. He tried to block Reagan's actions and preserve and improve the Voting Rights Act, funding for AIDS treatment, and equal funding for women's sports under Title IX.

Kennedy became very visible in opposing aspects of the foreign policy of the Reagan administration, including U.S. intervention in the Salvadoran Civil War and U.S. support for the Contras in Nicaragua, and in opposing Reagan-supported weapons systems, including the B-1 bomber, the MX missile, and the Strategic Defense Initiative. Kennedy became the Senate's leading advocate for a nuclear freeze.

Kennedy staged a tiring, dangerous, and high-profile trip to South Africa in January 1985. He defied both the apartheid government's wishes and militant anti-white AZAPO demonstrators by spending a night in the Soweto home of Bishop Desmond Tutu and also visited Winnie Mandela, wife of imprisoned black leader Nelson Mandela. Upon returning, Kennedy became a leader in the push for economic sanctions against South Africa; collaborating with Senator Lowell Weicker, he secured Senate passage, and the overriding of Reagan's veto, of the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act of 1986. Despite their many political differences, Kennedy and Reagan had a good personal relationship, and with the administration's approval Kennedy traveled to the Soviet Union in 1986 to act as a go-between in arms control negotiations with reformist Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev. The discussions were productive, and Kennedy also helped gain the release of a number of Soviet Jewish refuseniks, including Anatoly Shcharansky.


Kennedy managed successful passage of Clinton's National and Community Service Trust Act of 1993 that created the AmeriCorps program.

In 1996, Kennedy secured an increase in the minimum wage law, a favorite issue of his; there would not be another increase for ten years. measures instead. Kennedy worked with Republican Senator Nancy Kassebaum to create and pass the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act in 1996, which set new marks for portability of insurance and confidentiality of records. The same year, Kennedy's Mental Health Parity Act forced insurance companies to treat mental health payments the same as others with respect to limits reached. In 1997, Kennedy was the prime mover behind the State Children's Health Insurance Program, which used increased tobacco taxes to fund the largest expansion of taxpayer-funded health insurance coverage for children in the U.S. since Medicaid began in the 1960s.

After 9/11, Kennedy pushed through legislation that provided healthcare and grief counseling benefits for the families.

In reaction to the attacks, Kennedy was a supporter of the American-led 2001 overthrow of the Taliban government in Afghanistan. However, Kennedy strongly opposed the Iraq War from the start, and was one of 23 senators voting against the Iraq War Resolution in October 2002. As the Iraqi insurgency grew in subsequent years, Kennedy pronounced that the conflict was "Bush's Vietnam." In response to losses of Massachusetts service personnel to roadside bombs, Kennedy became vocal on the issue of Humvee vulnerability, and co-sponsored enacted 2005 legislation that sped up production and Army procurement of uparmored Humvees.
Kennedy was at the 2002 signing of a border security bill, with Senator Dianne Feinstein and President George W. Bush

In 2006, Kennedy released a children's book from the view of his dog Splash, My Senator and Me: A Dog's-Eye View of Washington, D.C. Also in 2006, Kennedy released a political history entitled America Back on Track.

As the 111th Congress began, Kennedy dropped his spot on the Senate Judiciary Committee in order to focus all his attentions on health care issues, which he regarded as "the cause of my life".

Committee assignments

* Committee on Armed Services
o Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities
o Subcommittee on Personnel
o Subcommittee on SeaPower (Chairman)
* Committee on Health, Education, Labor, and Pensions (Chairman)
o As chairman of the full committee, Sen. Kennedy could serve as a member ex officio of all subcommittees.
* Joint Economic Committee

Kennedy and his Senate staff had written about 2,500 bills, of which more than 300 were enacted into law. Kennedy has co-sponsored another 550 bills that became law since 1973. Kennedy was known for his effectiveness in dealing with Republican senators and administrations, sometimes to the irritation of Democrats.

List of awards and honors received by Ted Kennedy:

Senator Kennedy received a number of awards and honors over the years. These include an honorary knighthood bestowed by Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom, the Order of the Aztec Eagle from Mexico, the US Presidential Medal of Freedom, the Order of the Merit of Chile, and honorary degrees from a number of institutions including Harvard University.

Writings

* Kennedy, Edward M. (1968). Decisions for a Decade: Policies and Programs for the 1970s. Michael Joseph.
* Kennedy, Edward M. (1972). In Critical Condition: The Crisis in America's Health Care. Simon & Schuster.
* Kennedy, Edward M. (ed.) (1979). Our Day and Our Generation: The Words of Edward M. Kennedy. Simon & Schuster. ISBN 0671241338.
* Kennedy, Edward M. (2006). America Back On Track. Viking Adult. ISBN 0670037648.
* Kennedy, Edward M. (2006). My Senator and Me: A Dog's-Eye View of Washington, D.C. Small, David (illus.). Scholastic Press. ISBN 0-439-65077-1.
* Kennedy, Edward M. (2009, to appear). True Compass: A Memoir. Twelve. ISBN 9780446539258. [247]

See, here's the problem with this whole thread:

People consider a politician's personal life to be the be-all-end-all. The story with the woman who he failed to report to the police in a timely matter was a damn tragedy, she did not deserve such a cruel fate.

I do, however, prefer someone who can get something done in Washington regardless of their personal life. Hell if Ozzy Osbourne had good policies I'd vote for him, biting off the heads of bats or not.

This isn't to say I'd vote for a rapist or something outrageous as I know someone will try to twist my words to that extent. All I'm saying is what's most important to me is if they can actually get something done. Bill Clinton's affair being the best example in my opinion. I honestly am not 100% certain how Kennedy managed to hold onto his seat for as long as he did with the scandals and such, but he did whether you wanted him to or not.

honorary knighthood bestowed by Queen Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom.
Yep, loyal to the Queen and NAU

the Order of the Aztec Eagle from Mexico.
For his open borders policy. Anti-American, to say the least.

Regarding the OP original post I am an Irish Catholic from Massachusetts and even I can face the fact that Kennedy was a stumblebum who used his money and power to get away with his evils. Some people think dying gives you a free pass for the sins you committed in life. Teds'Father once said,'It's not what you are,it's what they think you are.'. Reading some of these naive posts,good old Joe was right. be seeing you

Anti-American?

Yes. open borders and amnesty are against the best interests of Americans.

JFK and camelot, I remember.

This is a hate the damn dems hate fest going on here with no respect for the dead.

Only sissies and ******* talk about someone when they can't defend themselves.
My opinion of course.



Even I wrote the Whitehouse with my issues about president Bush to president Bush, I wrote to O'Reilly about his dishonesty on a show that claims fair and balanced. I face off with those I have issues with to their faces, I don't talk behind their backs or when they cannot defend themselves.

I hate that, it is so cowardly.

Sorry, I am getting worked up here.

Regarding 'American Royalty',there is no such thing. America is a democracy,we elect our politicians. That's a political science fact. be seeing you

No one gets a free pass for their mistakes..not in this life or the next. karma has away of working that out. There is a thing called respect for all life... if more actually practiced it the world wouldn't be such a fcuking mess. Be careful, what you put out, you get back...

Noone said anything about literal royalty here. JFK and his presidency was referred to as Camelot with him being the king. Sheesh

My point exactly. be seeing you