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Salve Discipuli-
Modern students of the ka-ba-allah are taught that the Tree of Life consists of 10 spheres and 22 paths, the paths which correspond to the 22 Hebrew letters (see Psalm 119). The Revelation is 22 chapters long, as is I Kings. These letters are also understood to be numbers, as are words. When you see a Hebrew or Greek letter you also see a number, if you are used to the system. As to the spheres, these are said to be 10 in number like fingers and toes. But in a supposedly Hebrew system, we aren't shown Hebrew numbers for the spheres, we are shown our 'modern' numbering system? What I suggest is that their is a morphological connection between the shape of the numbers that we use today and the shape of the signs for the planets that we use today; AND that this is presented as a separate system within the 10 sphere tree of life, parallel to the Hebrew letter/numbers. I recommend that the 10 sphere tree was designed in order to put Saturn at sphere three and the earth at sphere ten, rather than nine as in the previous system. Consider the animation below. First we see the seven classical planetary spheres (including the sun and moon) depicted on a hexagram. The sun is at the center, and the outer planets are at the top. The second frame shows the order of descent of the soul through these according to the Greeks. The lightning strike motif is used on the tree. (See EZ 1:14 the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning. The creatures are in v 10 Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Scorpio, the fixed zodiac signs. See also REV 4) Now Rev 1 and the 7 stars.
If we add the stars at the top, and the earth at the bottom, we get an image like Manley P Hall's nine worlds image in frame 3. Note the direction markers on the edges. This brings the total to 13. Think of the Royal Arch Degree, Number 13, the legend is of Nine Arches (Arks, arcs). In the 4th frame you can see how Saturn was moved from the middle pillar. Now down the center we have 1, 6, 9 and 10, totaling to 26, as does Yahweh, the Name of God. But most importantly, Saturn is now at sphere 3 and the earth is at 10. Compare the signs for Saturn and 3, the earth and 10. Now imagine Saturn at 2 and the earth at 9. Does the nine not look like the sign for the moon. Can you not see Mercury's sign in the 8?
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Salve Discipuli- Modern students of the ka-ba-allah are taught that the Tree of Life consists of 10 spheres and 22 paths, the paths which correspond to the 22 Hebrew letters (see Psalm 119). The Revelation is 22 chapters long, as is I Kings. These letters are also understood to be numbers, as are words. When you see a Hebrew or Greek letter you also see a number, if you are used to the system. As to the spheres, these are said to be 10 in number like fingers and toes. But in a supposedly Hebrew system, we aren't shown Hebrew numbers for the spheres, we are shown our 'modern' numbering system? What I suggest is that their is a morphological connection between the shape of the numbers that we use today and the shape of the signs for the planets that we use today; AND that this is presented as a separate system within the 10 sphere tree of life, parallel to the Hebrew letter/numbers. I recommend that the 10 sphere tree was designed in order to put Saturn at sphere three and the earth at sphere ten, rather than nine as in the previous system. Consider the animation below. First we see the seven classical planetary spheres (including the sun and moon) depicted on a hexagram. The sun is at the center, and the outer planets are at the top. The second frame shows the order of descent of the soul through these according to the Greeks. The lightning strike motif is used on the tree. (See EZ 1:14 the living creatures ran and returned as the appearance of a flash of lightning. The creatures are in v 10 Leo, Taurus, Aquarius, and Scorpio, the fixed zodiac signs. See also REV 4) Now Rev 1 and the 7 stars.
If we add the stars at the top, and the earth at the bottom, we get an image like Manley P Hall's nine worlds image in frame 3. Note the direction markers on the edges. This brings the total to 13. Think of the Royal Arch Degree, Number 13, the legend is of Nine Arches (Arks, arcs). In the 4th frame you can see how Saturn was moved from the middle pillar. Now down the center we have 1, 6, 9 and 10, totaling to 26, as does Yahweh, the Name of God. But most importantly, Saturn is now at sphere 3 and the earth is at 10. Compare the signs for Saturn and 3, the earth and 10. Now imagine Saturn at 2 and the earth at 9. Does the nine not look like the sign for the moon. Can you not see Mercury's sign in the 8?
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Abracadabra
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Thu 08/13/09 11:24 AM
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There are an infinite number of correlations that you can imagine for these kinds of ancient folklore. Especially if you are referencing things like the celestial objects that initially inspired them as well as ancient doctrines that were written by people who either created them or wrote things that inspired their creation. As an example, the Celts also created a Qabalah, but their creation was based on their folklore, so if you go back through their folklore you will find a myriad of concepts that appear to be related quite well. Also, if you are incline to graphically till symbols and imagine correlations between those symbols and other symbols or number systems you can create just about any kind of story you heart desires. I have recently combined the first 22 Major Arcana along with the 12 European/Mediterranean Zodiac symbols and myths along with 11 celestial objects the Planets Mercury through Pluto, including Earth, the Moon and the Sun. I've combined these in away that fits in Celtic Folklore and the results are truly amazing. Of course I'm not inclined to suggest that this was some deep mystery that had been waiting to be unlocked. I fully realize that as I put this system together I both consciously and subconsciously took any and all information I could find that supports this model and makes it coherent whilst totally ignoring any information that simply doesn't fit. The end result is a symbolic story that appears to be amazingly coherent and purposefully designed. And of course, in a very real way it was designed. All three folklore individual had their own design along very similar themes that could easily be melded together. And then there is the added 'design' of my own actions of choosing which folklore and interpretations best fit the picture I believe to be 'discovering'. Am I making up any of the information? No, not at all. But I'm definitely choosing my information based on what appears to 'fit'. I could claim to be 'discovering' these connections, or I could be honest and just say that I'm methodically looking for connections, and ignoring any information that doesn't seem to be relevant. You appear to be focused on the mythology surrounded Yahweh and the Israeli culture. I originally focused on the Celts of Wales, but then expanded to incorporate views from all over the globe. There are many interesting coincidences even with things such as the oriental Zodiac, and various practices in Taoism, and Buddhism. In fact, I believe that many of these foundation concepts originated in India with the Jains. Clearly the Early Greeks were highly influenced by the Jains which brought all of those fundamental ideas into the Mediterranean area. But they also migrated north through Mongolia into Western Europe and eventually to the Celts which were actually a collection of various loose-knit cultures. What I've found from all of these traditions is that they do indeed contain much wisdom of humanity and they can be very powerful and rewarding as a means of introspection and mentoring of the human condition. Of course the same thing could be said of similar systems built upon the Chinese Zodiac, or the Taoist and Buddhist Mandalas or Sacred Circles, which in their earliest forms actually resembled the Tree of Life with a circular geometry. What I suggest is that their is a morphological connection between the shape of the numbers that we use today and the shape of the signs for the planets that we use today; AND that this is presented as a separate system within the 10 sphere tree of life, parallel to the Hebrew letter/numbers
While that's an interesting hypothesis it doesn't match with my understanding of the origin of the symbols of the planets. From what I've studied the symbols of the planets they have nothing to do with numbers, instead they are formed using the following system, which over time became less precise. As you can see there are only three symbols required to create all of the planet symbols. They are spirit, soul, and matter. Clearly these have nothing at all to do with any concept of number.
I created the above graphic just for the purpose of this post. The interpretations are crude because I kept them very brief for the graphic, but the essence of their meaning is basically correct. Also note that many people draw the symbol for Neptune as a trident with spear heads on each point. This actually came from the Greed God of Poseidon who was the god of water. Neptune was his planet. Neptune in general actually represents mankind's recognition of the sacredness of all of nature (the physical manifestation of matter) So from my perspective these planetary symbols have nothing at all to do with numbers. Neither were they originally Hebrew symbols. They are symbols that were created by ancient alchemists, probably in Greece or even before them in ancient India by the Jains. They are definitely not Hebrew in origin. |
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"They are definitely not Hebrew in origin."
Is there an echo in here? That is my point. Your whole 'act' is aimed at looking like you are refuting me with out really saying anything. You have succeeded half way. |
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Abra, so you kind of made your own picture, magazine cut-out style?
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interesting