Topic: Pot has Anti-cancer properties
franshade's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:12 PM


Fran...if we are going by this logic (and I know not everyone believes in God)....God made man too laugh

could resist adding that one laugh



oh not this again ...ohwell




oh yes God Did make Man drinker


...most of us bigsmile I think ...laugh





but then some men are evil predators pitchfork


& repeat child molestors too drinker

i have more faith in a harmless plant than booze by far drinker

that has way more benefits than most people give it credit for flowerforyou

that would greatly help the economy drinker

and help clean the ecosystem too with production flowerforyou

of paper clothing, & wood products & so many other things drinker

like when it was used so prolifically in the World Wars smokin


i have more faith in a very innovative plant smokin

that would give people relief from pain & medical problems flowerforyou

without causing then to be strung out on highly addictive narcotics pitchfork

that the doctors give them spock with their filthy hands in the cookie jar devil


would rather give to their patients without conscience sad


compromising the hippocratic law rofl drinker drinker


for the hypocritical law they created ill ill ill ill ill

cause of the huge financial kickbacks in it for them ill




yes, i most definitely have more faith in God :angel:

and in the plants he gave us for many uses :thumbsup:


than i do in most men laugh laugh laugh







cocaine also from a plant
heroine also from a plant

hmmm - maybe I should stop smoking cigarettes :laughing: and smoke something more "in tune w/nature" rofl

franshade's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:13 PM

Rapunzel...not what again??? I don't believe I used this before AND it was a joke for Fran

flowers for joke
tongue2 for getting caught in your own joke
:laughing:

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:15 PM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Mon 07/27/09 01:16 PM
shaddup Fran laugh

poison ivy is natural...but I'm not going near that....so are shrooms....I'll pass on that too

Fran...if you grow your own tobacco...then it's naturalbigsmile

Rapunzel's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:17 PM
Edited by Rapunzel on Mon 07/27/09 01:18 PM

shaddup Fran laugh

poison ivy is natural...but I'm not going near that....so are shrooms....I'll pass on that too

Fran...if you grow your own tobacco...then it's naturalbigsmile




oh well, i don't think ivy is an herb laugh

& natural tobacco is better than all the high bred tobacco


the tobacco industries sell with all the carcinogens


but i would not take belladonna either noway




franshade's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:17 PM

shaddup Fran laugh

poison ivy is natural...but I'm not going near that....so are shrooms....I'll pass on that too

Fran...if you grow your own tobacco...then it's naturalbigsmile

hmm shrooms are natural - give me more samples sorry meant examples

laugh

franshade's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:19 PM

shaddup Fran laugh

poison ivy is natural...but I'm not going near that....so are shrooms....I'll pass on that too

Fran...if you grow your own tobacco...then it's naturalbigsmile


now if only I could make other things grow pitchfork

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:21 PM
for the record..I don't smoke it...but I don't care what adults do on their own as long as it doesn't come to me, my family and property. I have said I don't have a problem making it legal for adults...as long as it is ADULTS

Winx's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:26 PM

shaddup Fran laugh

poison ivy is natural...but I'm not going near that....so are shrooms....I'll pass on that too

Fran...if you grow your own tobacco...then it's naturalbigsmile


Poison Ivy - good one.laugh

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:31 PM
ANYWAY...back to the OP. if it will help the sick, then that is great. I personally won't use it because it has bad effects on me. I can't even use it to relax etc. but as far as recreational...I have no problem with someone using it in their homes as long as me and my loved ones aren't affected by the use.


franshade's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:33 PM
Edited by franshade on Mon 07/27/09 01:36 PM

my opinion is this reaction is very childish - but you go and enjoy your day

i will enjoy my day & my reply was definitely in order
just cause i refuse to buy into your bs
and play silly adolescent games
you want to try and put me down
it only shows your own lack of integrity & maturity drinker
ill ill ill ill ill


My opinion still stands, your reaction is very childish.
Come, stay, join, or leave the thread all up to you, no one else.

I will respect you to show you how adults should behave, but do not test me please. Like the Hulk says you wouldn't like me when I'm angry rofl rofl

One of us is lacking integrity and maturity and it's not me tongue2 hmmm who does that leave????? but you go ahead and puff puff pass pass rofl rofl rofl

franshade's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:34 PM

ANYWAY...back to the OP. if it will help the sick, then that is great. I personally won't use it because it has bad effects on me. I can't even use it to relax etc. but as far as recreational...I have no problem with someone using it in their homes as long as me and my loved ones aren't affected by the use.

as we have just been shown, recreational use does more harm than good laugh

Winx's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:41 PM

But lets put some perspective on this. POT (in its most currently used form) has a myriad soup of cancer causing ingredients


ummm only when it is burned......




Yep, that's true.

franshade's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:43 PM


But lets put some perspective on this. POT (in its most currently used form) has a myriad soup of cancer causing ingredients


ummm only when it is burned......




Yep, that's true.


supposedly it's not the plant that cancerous but the paper which has been treated with chemicals.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 07/27/09 01:44 PM


ANYWAY...back to the OP. if it will help the sick, then that is great. I personally won't use it because it has bad effects on me. I can't even use it to relax etc. but as far as recreational...I have no problem with someone using it in their homes as long as me and my loved ones aren't affected by the use.

as we have just been shown, recreational use does more harm than good laugh


which is why people should stay home...just like someone that might have a few beers. I don't want either brought to me or my family. and I have seen that not everyone can handle pot good. I've seen that aren't mellow and laid back. People react differently just like they react different to anything

franshade's photo
Mon 07/27/09 02:08 PM

New Study Explains How Pot Kills Cancer Cells

Nov 6, 2003, Steve Kubby

A new study published in Nature Reviews-Cancer provides an historic and detailed explanation about how THC and natural cannabinoids counteract cancer, but preserve normal cells.

The study by Manuel Guzmán of Madrid Spain found that cannabinoids, the active components of marijuana, inhibit tumor growth in laboratory animals. They do so by modulating key cell-signalling pathways, thereby inducing direct growth arrest and death of tumor cells, as well as by inhibiting the growth of blood vessels that supply the tumor.

The Guzman study is very important according to Dr. Ethan Russo , a neurologist and world authority on medical cannabis: "Cancer occurs because cells become immortalized; they fail to heed normal signals to turn off growth. A normal function of remodelling in the body requires that cells die on cue. This is called apoptosis, or programmed cell death. That process fails to work in tumors. THC promotes its reappearance so that gliomas, leukemias, melanomas and other cell types will in fact heed the signals, stop dividing, and die."

"But, that is not all," explains Dr. Russo: "The other way that tumors grow is by ensuring that they are nourished: they send out signals to promote angiogenesis, the growth of new blood vessels. Cannabinoids turn off these signals as well. It is truly incredible, and elegant."

In other words, this article explains several ways in which cannabinoids might be used to fight cancer, and, as the article says, "Cannabinoids are usually well tolerated, and do not produce the generalized toxic effects of conventional chemotherapies.

Usually, any story that even suggests the possibility of a new treatment for cancer is greeted with headlines about a "cancer cure" - however remote in the future and improbable in fact it might be. But if marijuana is involved, don't expect any coverage from mainstream media, especially since mainstream editors have been quietly killing this story for the past thirty years.

That's right, news about the abilility of pot to shrink tumors first surfaced, way back in 1974. Researchers at the Medical College of Virginia, who had been funded by the National Institutes of Health to find evidence that marijuana damages the immune system, found instead that THC slowed the growth of three kinds of cancer in mice -- lung and breast cancer, and a virus-induced leukemia.

The Washington Post reported on the 1974 study -- in the "Local" section -- on Aug. 18, 1974. Under the headline, "Cancer Curb Is Studied," it read in part: "The active chemical agent in marijuana curbs the growth of three kinds of cancer in mice and may also suppress the immunity reaction that causes rejection of organ transplants, a Medical College of Virginia team has discovered." The researchers "found that THC slowed the growth of lung cancers, breast cancers, and a virus-induced leukemia in laboratory mice, and prolonged their lives by as much as 36 percent."

"News coverage of the Madrid discovery has been virtually nonexistent in this country. The news broke quietly on Feb. 29, 2000 with a story that ran once on the UPI wire about the Nature Medicine article," complained MarijuanaNews.com editor Richard Cowan, who said he was only able to find the article through a link that appeared briefly on the Drudge Report Web page. "The New York Times, The Washington Post, and Los Angeles Times all ignored the story, even though its newsworthiness is indisputable: a benign substance occurring in nature destroys deadly brain tumors," added Cowan.

On March 29, 2001, the San Antonio Current printed a carefully researched, bombshell of a story by Raymond Cushing titled, "POT SHRINKS TUMORS; GOVERNMENT KNEW IN '74." Media coverage since then has been nonexistant, except for a copy of the story on Alternet .

It is hard to believe that the knowledge that cannabis can be used to fight cancer has been suppressed for almost thirty years , yet it seems likely that it will continue to be suppressed. Why?

According to Cowan, the answer is because it is a threat to cannabis prohibition . "If this article and its predecessors from 2000 and 1974 were the only evidence of the suppression of medical cannabis, then one might perhaps be able to rationalize it in some herniated way. However, there really is massive proof that the suppression of medical cannabis represents the greatest failure of the institutions of a free society, medicine, journalism, science, and our fundamental values," Cowan notes.

Millions of people have died horrible deaths and in many cases, familes exhausted their savings on dangerous, toxic and expensive drugs. Now we are just beginning to realize that while marijuana has never killed anyone, marijuana prohibition has killed millions.

http://www.sierratimes.com/03/11/07/article_kubby.htm


back on topic

Winx's photo
Mon 07/27/09 02:09 PM
Dec. 14, 2007 -- New research from Canada shows that some toxins may be more abundant in marijuana cigarettes than tobacco cigarettes.

The researchers burned 30 marijuana cigarettes and 30 tobacco cigarettes on a machine in their lab, measuring levels of chemicals in the smoke.

Ammonia levels were up to 20 times higher in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke. Levels of hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen-related chemicals were three to five times higher in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke.

The nitrogen-based fertilizer used on the marijuana plants -- which all came from the same batch of Canadian pot plants -- may have affected the results. The temperatures used to burn the cigarettes may also have been a factor.

Marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke shared many of the same chemicals. But the two types of smoke weren't identical.

For instance, marijuana doesn't contain nicotine. And tobacco doesn't contain cannabinoids, which include THC, marijuana's active ingredient

Tobacco has long been linked to cancer and other health problems. Marijuana smoke hasn't been tied to cancer in the past, note the researchers, who included David Moir, PhD, of the Safe Environments Programme in Kitchener, Ontario.

Moir and colleagues report their findings in the advance online edition of Chemical Research in Toxicology.

They promise to compare the toxicity of marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke in animals in another study.


http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20071214/study-shows-toxins-in-marijuana-smoke

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 07/27/09 02:10 PM
good article winx

franshade's photo
Mon 07/27/09 02:10 PM

Dec. 14, 2007 -- New research from Canada shows that some toxins may be more abundant in marijuana cigarettes than tobacco cigarettes.

The researchers burned 30 marijuana cigarettes and 30 tobacco cigarettes on a machine in their lab, measuring levels of chemicals in the smoke.

Ammonia levels were up to 20 times higher in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke. Levels of hydrogen cyanide and nitrogen-related chemicals were three to five times higher in marijuana smoke than in tobacco smoke.

The nitrogen-based fertilizer used on the marijuana plants -- which all came from the same batch of Canadian pot plants -- may have affected the results. The temperatures used to burn the cigarettes may also have been a factor.

Marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke shared many of the same chemicals. But the two types of smoke weren't identical.

For instance, marijuana doesn't contain nicotine. And tobacco doesn't contain cannabinoids, which include THC, marijuana's active ingredient

Tobacco has long been linked to cancer and other health problems. Marijuana smoke hasn't been tied to cancer in the past, note the researchers, who included David Moir, PhD, of the Safe Environments Programme in Kitchener, Ontario.

Moir and colleagues report their findings in the advance online edition of Chemical Research in Toxicology.

They promise to compare the toxicity of marijuana smoke and tobacco smoke in animals in another study.


http://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/news/20071214/study-shows-toxins-in-marijuana-smoke


:heart: winx :heart:

Winx's photo
Mon 07/27/09 02:10 PM
Edited by Winx on Mon 07/27/09 02:12 PM

good article winx


Thanks.:smile: flowerforyou

And thanks to Fran too.:smile: flowerforyou



yellowrose10's photo
Mon 07/27/09 02:14 PM
whether it's alcohol, cigarettes, or drugs...they aren't good for you. I can understand people with cancer using pot for nausea if it helps.