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 The guy got arrested for being in his own home
Nope! He got arrested for disorderly conduct, which is/was a separate offense on his part. Had he not had the "chip" on his shoulder, and went along with the standard procedures...all would have been OK. But, No...he had to go and mention/pull the race card(which was totally un-called for). I've been on calls, that would have been less of an issue...but some make it worse on themselves, by acting stupid(as Obama says). I used to tell the person, when he/she started mouthing off..."You can make this easy or hard on yourself...your choice"! JMO 
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Does being a friend of Bush, and shooting your friend with a shotgun at close range keep you out of trouble? The beautiful thing about that is the fact that cheyney got his friend to publicly apologize 
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The guy got arrested for being in his own home
That is not what the guy got arrested for....And unfortunately that is what Obama thinks too. |
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mass law enforcement wants an apology from obama and gov
.............Both Obama and Patrick are black, and the president's comment marked his first foray into a divisive racial issue — a striking departure from his "post-racial" impartiality......... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32122967/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/ |
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Everybody needs to just get over it...the guy and the cop both need to step up and apologize for their part and move on. They are both so full of pride they just can't do that.... gawd
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mass law enforcement wants an apology from obama and gov .............Both Obama and Patrick are black, and the president's comment marked his first foray into a divisive racial issue — a striking departure from his "post-racial" impartiality......... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32122967/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/ A white person can never relate to how black people are treated in the United States. |
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Once the cop knew it was the guys house he should have just left no problem
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The guy got arrested for being in his own home
Nope! He got arrested for disorderly conduct, which is/was a separate offense on his part. Had he not had the "chip" on his shoulder, and went along with the standard procedures...all would have been OK. But, No...he had to go and mention/pull the race card(which was totally un-called for). I've been on calls, that would have been less of an issue...but some make it worse on themselves, by acting stupid(as Obama says). I used to tell the person, when he/she started mouthing off..."You can make this easy or hard on yourself...your choice"! JMO
Disorderly conduct in his own house which was later DROPPED
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Once the cop knew it was the guys house he should have just left no problem
When Mr Gates realized that the police were there to help, he should have lost the attitude. Not provoke further negative actions on his part! 
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Once the cop knew it was the guys house he should have just left no problem
When Mr Gates realized that the police were there to help, he should have lost the attitude. Not provoke further negative actions on his part!
People are supposed to get arrested for attitudes? |
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assuming (yup there I go) that you have read the same articles that I have, both were in the wrong.
However, am I right to assume (yup I did it again) that as Mr. Gates was arrested this arrest will forever stay in his record? |
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mass law enforcement wants an apology from obama and gov .............Both Obama and Patrick are black, and the president's comment marked his first foray into a divisive racial issue — a striking departure from his "post-racial" impartiality......... http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32122967/ns/us_news-race_and_ethnicity/ A white person can never relate to how black people are treated in the United States. what is your point there are multiple races in the law enforcement community asking for the apology gates should have been happy they showed up after the call someone was breaking into his house maybe next time they wont and maybe someone will get hurt all he had to do was show his id when asked they would have called it in and confirmed ownership gates was out of line and so is patrick and obama and how can you know what a black person goes through 
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Once the cop knew it was the guys house he should have just left no problem
When Mr Gates realized that the police were there to help, he should have lost the attitude. Not provoke further negative actions on his part!
People are supposed to get arrested for attitudes? No my dear...it was a verbal assault on the officer, that was there to help! The arrest was not labeled for attitude...it was for disorderly! You can't turn this around...it is what it is! I've seen this many many time, in court...really, it's just common sense. 
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assuming (yup there I go) that you have read the same articles that I have, both were in the wrong. However, am I right to assume (yup I did it again) that as Mr. Gates was arrested this arrest will forever stay in his record? Not sure about Ma law. |
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assuming (yup there I go) that you have read the same articles that I have, both were in the wrong. However, am I right to assume (yup I did it again) that as Mr. Gates was arrested this arrest will forever stay in his record? and it should why should it not he refused to co-operate with an officer there to protect him and his proberty read my last post |
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assuming (yup there I go) that you have read the same articles that I have, both were in the wrong. However, am I right to assume (yup I did it again) that as Mr. Gates was arrested this arrest will forever stay in his record? and it should why should it not he refused to co-operate with an officer there to protect him and his proberty read my last post He didnt want or need any help protecting his property (from himself?) and no it wont stay on his record. The charges were dropped because they were bogus
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As a former cop, proper procedure is this: #1. Upon arriving on scene, detain and question any subject/suspect, search them and ask for ID. #2. Look for additional suspects or victims. If two officers or more, one left with suspect to do #1 while the rest search. #3. Obtain witness information, and determine if suspects story matches witnesses statement. #4. Make any arrests, or release anyone from custody. If this was a call for a breaking and entering/burglary, which can easily also be a home invasion, which is a class x felony, weapons are drawn, and tempers are high due to the pucker factor. So much for the general public being innocent until proven guilty
Elwood - Isn't there a warrant needed to search? not if there is probable cause neighbor called in a break-in officer responded both handled it improperly gates should have been more co-operative (and shown his ID this would not be an issue had he done so) and the profiler and police should have been less harsh but hey............... but hey............... Yeah, yeah, yeah, what do you know
 I noticed adj didn't add the ending and I found my self saying it. You beat me to the punch Fran...
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boo 
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assuming (yup there I go) that you have read the same articles that I have, both were in the wrong. However, am I right to assume (yup I did it again) that as Mr. Gates was arrested this arrest will forever stay in his record? and it should why should it not he refused to co-operate with an officer there to protect him and his proberty read my last post read your prior post - and yes I was once a black man (before my surgery) 
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I'm with the cops on this one. The President screwed up by commenting on the situation the way he did. In the polls,his numbers will drop. be seeing you I don't think less of him for this. It's not that big of deal to me. The reporter asked the question and he answered it. He said that the man was his friend. He brought up important points about racial profiling. Frankly they trapped him I think, if he has more time to thinking about it, I think he might not have used the word stupid, that will haunt him. I dont' know why people fee that the president has to weigh in on issues like this. Leave him out of it and let him do his job.. |
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