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playing devils advocate Els. Say that a person is killed, like in the Phil Spector case. The evidence shows that a gun was used, but as there are no witnesses, and there may not be a motive, you can try just one count, say murder, but if you don't prove it, you may have to go to trial all over again. If you charge the person with murder1, murder2, and manslaughter, you're cya, and that when the jury gets the go ahead to try for a verdict, they have lots to choose from.
so for my understanding every action gets dissected and used as a charge for means of allowing prosecutors to prove guilt and convict? did I get it right? Unless you live in Texas, then it is an automatic death sentence. Speeding that's the death sentence. Jay walking that's the death sentence. 
Texas has it right. 
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playing devils advocate Els. Say that a person is killed, like in the Phil Spector case. The evidence shows that a gun was used, but as there are no witnesses, and there may not be a motive, you can try just one count, say murder, but if you don't prove it, you may have to go to trial all over again. If you charge the person with murder1, murder2, and manslaughter, you're cya, and that when the jury gets the go ahead to try for a verdict, they have lots to choose from.
so for my understanding every action gets dissected and used as a charge for means of allowing prosecutors to prove guilt and convict? did I get it right? Unless you live in Texas, then it is an automatic death sentence. Speeding that's the death sentence. Jay walking that's the death sentence.
Texas has it right.
Kittens wearing hankies that's the death sentence. 
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playing devils advocate Els. Say that a person is killed, like in the Phil Spector case. The evidence shows that a gun was used, but as there are no witnesses, and there may not be a motive, you can try just one count, say murder, but if you don't prove it, you may have to go to trial all over again. If you charge the person with murder1, murder2, and manslaughter, you're cya, and that when the jury gets the go ahead to try for a verdict, they have lots to choose from.
so for my understanding every action gets dissected and used as a charge for means of allowing prosecutors to prove guilt and convict? did I get it right? Unless you live in Texas, then it is an automatic death sentence. Speeding that's the death sentence. Jay walking that's the death sentence.
Texas has it right.
Kittens wearing hankies that's the death sentence.
Leave the puddy tat alone mister 
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I don't know about the peer pressure, I doubt it. My dad was a cop, I've worked in the legal field for all my adult life, I'd be the one wanting to throw the book at people for the smallest things and I'd be the one nit-picking every little detail and questioning everyone's interpretation of the law and everything else. Yeah, I think throwing me out the window would be the least of my problems
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I don't know about the peer pressure, I doubt it. My dad was a cop, I've worked in the legal field for all my adult life, I'd be the one wanting to throw the book at people for the smallest things and I'd be the one nit-picking every little detail and questioning everyone's interpretation of the law and everything else. Yeah, I think throwing me out the window would be the least of my problems
great I'll be the one hiding behind you
Oh no, meant the jury would want to throw me out of the window, I'm like a child always wanting to know why? why? why? why? but,but, but
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That's what I meant too, though I think I'd be getting off lightly just by being thrown out a window
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(((suz))) you rock You guys think I am curious here, boy if I were a juror, this would go on for years (joking here people) as I question everything. but it is great to know so many people that do know the system and trust me I'm learning 
I would love to be on a jury (I know, I'm weird) but I'm like you, I question so much, I'd probably piss everyone off
I had jury duty in January. The man was arrested for possession of crack. He was in auto accident and he and the other motorist involved got their vehicles to nearby gas station and called the cops. When the cops came they ran everyone's licensees and the defendant came up with a warrant. He was taken into custody and transported to lock up. The officer took him inside and booked him in. Then went back out to inspect his vehicle and found a bag of crack on the floor. The defendant claimed it wasn't his and the officer said it couldn't have been anyone else's. |
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I don't know about the peer pressure, I doubt it. My dad was a cop, I've worked in the legal field for all my adult life, I'd be the one wanting to throw the book at people for the smallest things and I'd be the one nit-picking every little detail and questioning everyone's interpretation of the law and everything else. Yeah, I think throwing me out the window would be the least of my problems
great I'll be the one hiding behind you
Oh no, meant the jury would want to throw me out of the window, I'm like a child always wanting to know why? why? why? why? but,but, but
Death sentence for both of you.
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(((suz))) you rock You guys think I am curious here, boy if I were a juror, this would go on for years (joking here people) as I question everything. but it is great to know so many people that do know the system and trust me I'm learning
I would love to be on a jury (I know, I'm weird) but I'm like you, I question so much, I'd probably piss everyone off
I had jury duty in January. The man was arrested for possession of crack. He was in auto accident and he and the other motorist involved got their vehicles to nearby gas station and called the cops. When the cops came they ran everyone's licensees and the defendant came up with a warrant. He was taken into custody and transported to lock up. The officer took him inside and booked him in. Then went back out to inspect his vehicle and found a bag of crack on the floor. The defendant claimed it wasn't his and the officer said it couldn't have been anyone else's. so what hap? |
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I don't know about the peer pressure, I doubt it. My dad was a cop, I've worked in the legal field for all my adult life, I'd be the one wanting to throw the book at people for the smallest things and I'd be the one nit-picking every little detail and questioning everyone's interpretation of the law and everything else. Yeah, I think throwing me out the window would be the least of my problems
great I'll be the one hiding behind you
Oh no, meant the jury would want to throw me out of the window, I'm like a child always wanting to know why? why? why? why? but,but, but
Death sentence for both of you.
boy am I glad I'm not in Texas
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WEST PALM BEACH - A judge has sentenced a man to life in prison for the kidnapping, rape and robbery of a woman at her North Palm Beach apartment, WPTV-Ch. 5 reports. Bobby James Broomfield was a maintenance man who had fixed the victim's air conditioning before the attack two years ago. He illegally entered her apartment at Sanctuary Cove and assaulted her. "I will always see and feel the machete pressed up against my cheek," the victim said during the sentencing hearing, WPTV reports. "I will always feel the zip ties pulled tight around my wrists." Broomfield was found guilty of seven charges and was sentenced to four life sentences Thursday. read this in this mornings paper, this is a very heinous crime and again so I am not misunderstood, I am not condoning any illegal activities but questioning our justice system and always trying to learn how it works. Since so many members here have more knowledge than I regarding it, I ask in the forums. How are the sentences for any crimes calculated? I believe they are categorized whether Misdemeanor or Felony and what class they are?Are there set minimums/maximums for each charge? Is the jury able to add/remove years from sentencing or do they just make a recommendation. Does this fall solely on the judge? Depends who he knows, know the right people and you get the minimum sentence...don't know anyone and you get the maximum. |
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WEST PALM BEACH - A judge has sentenced a man to life in prison for the kidnapping, rape and robbery of a woman at her North Palm Beach apartment, WPTV-Ch. 5 reports. Bobby James Broomfield was a maintenance man who had fixed the victim's air conditioning before the attack two years ago. He illegally entered her apartment at Sanctuary Cove and assaulted her. "I will always see and feel the machete pressed up against my cheek," the victim said during the sentencing hearing, WPTV reports. "I will always feel the zip ties pulled tight around my wrists." Broomfield was found guilty of seven charges and was sentenced to four life sentences Thursday. read this in this mornings paper, this is a very heinous crime and again so I am not misunderstood, I am not condoning any illegal activities but questioning our justice system and always trying to learn how it works. Since so many members here have more knowledge than I regarding it, I ask in the forums. How are the sentences for any crimes calculated? I believe they are categorized whether Misdemeanor or Felony and what class they are?Are there set minimums/maximums for each charge? Is the jury able to add/remove years from sentencing or do they just make a recommendation. Does this fall solely on the judge? Depends who he knows, know the right people and you get the minimum sentence...don't know anyone and you get the maximum. pretty vague care to expand? |
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Edited by
scttrbrain
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Fri 06/19/09 08:21 AM
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Thing is; it depends on all the charges. One charge can grow into many.
Breaking and entering--- breaking and entering weapon- terror can be used there as well- Tieing up (zip ties), restaints used ie kidnapping, holding someone against their will (could bring a couple of charges there)- holding a knife at her throat, another charge - rape, depending how many times could add up-plus the weapon robbery one charge but add a weapon...oh man - then you can have premeditated (he saw her and planned it)another charge - What is uasually done is they will bring forth as many chrages as they can to be assured of a conviction...then run them together to accumulate sentencing. But, can also have each charge run out it's time and start again with the following charges. The worst charge will begin and the others will follow also assuring all will be the most badass felony. The Jury has an obligation to convict or not...but I think they also have the power to place forth sentencing...but it ultimately falls on the judge to go with or change it. The reason for all the life sentences is so the term doesn't run out. Here in Oklahoma...life means at least 45 years. Kat |
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thanks Kat
Can anyone in laymans terms explain concurrent and consecutive sentences to me plz? |
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thanks Kat
Can anyone in laymans terms explain concurrent and consecutive sentences to me plz? Well, I think concurrent is all charges run together consecutive is run one out then the other kicks in. Kat |
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(((suz))) you rock You guys think I am curious here, boy if I were a juror, this would go on for years (joking here people) as I question everything. but it is great to know so many people that do know the system and trust me I'm learning
I would love to be on a jury (I know, I'm weird) but I'm like you, I question so much, I'd probably piss everyone off
I had jury duty in January. The man was arrested for possession of crack. He was in auto accident and he and the other motorist involved got their vehicles to nearby gas station and called the cops. When the cops came they ran everyone's licensees and the defendant came up with a warrant. He was taken into custody and transported to lock up. The officer took him inside and booked him in. Then went back out to inspect his vehicle and found a bag of crack on the floor. The defendant claimed it wasn't his and the officer said it couldn't have been anyone else's. so what hap? How do you keep fran in suspense? 
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thanks Kat
Can anyone in laymans terms explain concurrent and consecutive sentences to me plz? Well, I think concurrent is all charges run together consecutive is run one out then the other kicks in. Kat charges or jail time? (warned ya) I don't know much legalize |
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thanks Kat
Can anyone in laymans terms explain concurrent and consecutive sentences to me plz? Well, I think concurrent is all charges run together consecutive is run one out then the other kicks in. Kat charges or jail time? (warned ya) I don't know much legalize The sentences running back to back is consecutive. When they all run together, it's concurrent. Also, jail is for people that have either not been convicted and sentenced to due time in prison(felony convictions of one year or more) or those that have been convicted of a misdemeanor charge(less than one year). |
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Edited by
scttrbrain
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Fri 06/19/09 08:44 AM
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thanks Kat
Can anyone in laymans terms explain concurrent and consecutive sentences to me plz? Well, I think concurrent is all charges run together consecutive is run one out then the other kicks in. Kat charges or jail time? (warned ya) I don't know much legalize ?? the charges are one thing, the jail time is the concurrent or consecutive . kat |
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Edited by
scttrbrain
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thanks Kat
Can anyone in laymans terms explain concurrent and consecutive sentences to me plz? Well, I think concurrent is all charges run together consecutive is run one out then the other kicks in. Kat charges or jail time? (warned ya) I don't know much legalize The sentences running back to back is consecutive. When they all run together, it's concurrent. Also, jail is for people that have either not been convicted and sentenced to due time in prison(felony convictions of one year or more) or those that have been convicted of a misdemeanor charge(less than one year). Uhhhh...what?? I have several felony convictions....did a few weeks in jail, then convicted, then my sentence was run concurrent..all charges to be served at once...5 years probation. After completing 5 years and no tickets or any other thing happening...the time was dropped. The charges stayed. If they had been run consecutive...I would have had to do longer probation and paid more fines. Kat |
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