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they never went on their property anyway so it's not about protecting their property. whether or not people agree with the law doesn't matter since it doesn't apply here
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their are idiots everywhere
even texas north carolina ohio and michigan to name a few |
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stupidity isn't exclusive to a particular area
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stupidity isn't exclusive to a particular area 
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adj....are you stalking me???
personally...IF they were on my property (which it's the case here anyway)...i would tell them to get off my private property...if that didn't work then i'd call the cops. not everyone in Texas will just shoot people. to think all of Texas doesn't have common sense (regardless of what the law says) is plain stupid. not everyone in Texas even owns a gun |
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adj....are you stalking me???
personally...IF they were on my property (which it's the case here anyway)...i would tell them to get off my private property...if that didn't work then i'd call the cops. not everyone in Texas will just shoot people. to think all of Texas doesn't have common sense (regardless of what the law says) is plain stupid. not everyone in Texas even owns a gun 
i was wondering if i could use that wisconsin injustice to gps you 
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as far as the GPS...if someone feels the need to...go for it. I would be willing to bet they would be bored with where I go though lol. i have nothing to hide and might make me feel special that someone cares enough to stalk me
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Edited by
adj4u
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Mon 05/11/09 02:22 PM
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just for you rose
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the pic didn't come out adj....try again lol
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the pic didn't come out adj....try again lol consider yourself stalked in a corny way |
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say it's not so fanta 
If you ever come here Rose you'll think you went to paradise. Lush green mountains with a creek in every hollow. Cold clear mt. streams, rivers, trout, whitetail dear, bear, wild turkey, and about every other critter you can think of walking, crawling, or slithering. You'd never want to leave! WOW! Have you seen the stats Glenn? Holy crap! I hope you have an escape plan if you don't own a weapon. http://www.clrsearch.com/RSS/Demographics/NC/Henderson/Crime_Statistics |
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say it's not so fanta
If you ever come here Rose you'll think you went to paradise. Lush green mountains with a creek in every hollow. Cold clear mt. streams, rivers, trout, whitetail dear, bear, wild turkey, and about every other critter you can think of walking, crawling, or slithering. You'd never want to leave! WOW! Have you seen the stats Glenn? Holy crap! I hope you have an escape plan if you don't own a weapon. http://www.clrsearch.com/RSS/Demographics/NC/Henderson/Crime_Statistics 55125, it's not quite as picturesque here but I don't have to keep my head low when I go outside...... in the 800 below zero weather.
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zap...i imagine you can find those type of demographics in a lot of places. sad but true
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they never went on their property anyway so it's not about protecting their property. whether or not people agree with the law doesn't matter since it doesn't apply here These people thought they were. So they must have been close. (A Foot or two?) But if they had crossed the property line they could have been shot dead according to Texas law? Right? |
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zap...i imagine you can find those type of demographics in a lot of places. sad but true True. That's why I live here.
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they never went on their property anyway so it's not about protecting their property. whether or not people agree with the law doesn't matter since it doesn't apply here These people thought they were. So they must have been close. (A Foot or two?) But if they had crossed the property line they could have been shot dead according to Texas law? Right? as far as the law...i believe they could but in a trial it could be proven that it was not necessary....but i believe they were far than a foot or 2....they were just trigger happy idiots. |
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Edited by
adj4u
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Mon 05/11/09 02:34 PM
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7-Year-old Boy Dies in Trespass ShootingAP posted: 2 HOURS 25 MINUTES AGOcomments: 2154filed under: Crime News, National NewsPrintShareText SizeAAAHOUSTON (May 9) - A 7-year-old boy who was allegedly shot in the head by a couple who thought he and three other people were trespassing on their property died Saturday, authorities said. Donald Coffey Jr. died Saturday morning at a Houston hospital, less than two days after the boy was struck in the head by shotgun pellets, Liberty County Sheriff's Cpl. Hugh Bishop said. News That Stunned Us Liberty County Sheriff's Office Texas authorities say Gayle Muhs and his wife, Sheila, shot a 7-year-old boy in the head May 7 for supposedly trespassing on their property. Donald Coffey Jr., who had been off-roading with three other people roughly 40 miles northeast of Houston, died two days later on May 9. The two were charged with second-degree felony counts of aggravated assault Sheila Muhs and her husband, Gayle Muhs, both 45, were charged with second-degree felony counts of aggravated assault in the shootings Thursday. They were being held at Liberty County Jail with bail set at $25,000 each and had not yet retained an attorney, Bishop said. Bishop said the district attorney could upgrade the charges to murder on Monday, but investigators were "still trying to get the circumstances behind the incident." The boy, his 5-year-old sister, their father and a family friend were off-roading near a residential area about 40 miles northeast of Houston when they were shot after stopping so the children could go to the bathroom. Authorities said the couple fired after they mistakenly thought the group was trespassing on their property. Bishop said the area includes a dirt road, trees and overgrown brush and that it wasn't uncommon for people to go off-roading there. The Houston Chronicle reported that a sign in front of the suspects' home reads: "Trespassers will be shot. Survivers will be reshot!! Smile I will." Liberty County Chief Deputy Ken DeFoor said Sheila Muhs fired a 12-gauge shotgun once, then handed it to her husband, who also fired once. DeFoor said Sheila Muhs then called 911 and told the dispatcher: "They're out here tearing up the levee, so I shot them." DeFoor said the levee belonged to the subdivision and was not private property. Bishop said there was no indication the unarmed victims did anything threatening toward the Muhs. Donald Coffey Sr. suffered a pellet wound in his right shoulder and his daughter, Destiny, suffered a wound to the elbow. The family friend, 30-year-old Patrick Cammack, was in serious condition Saturday with a head wound, Memorial Hermann-Texas Medical Center spokeswoman Alex Rodriguez said. http://news.aol.com/article/texas-trespassing-shooting/472454?icid=main|htmlws-main|dl1|link3|http%3A%2F%2Fnews.aol.com%2Farticle%2Ftexas-trespassing-shooting%2F472454 Yup, the great results of everyone having the right to guns. 
"""""Bishop said there was no indication the unarmed victims did anything threatening toward the Muhs."""" so obviously too shoot someone you must be threatened for the law to protect you |
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SUBCHAPTER D. PROTECTION OF PROPERTY
Sec. 9.41. PROTECTION OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY. (a) A person in lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is justified in using force against another when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful interference with the property. (b) A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible, movable property by another is justified in using force against the other when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to reenter the land or recover the property if the actor uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit after the dispossession and: (1) the actor reasonably believes the other had no claim of right when he dispossessed the actor; or (2) the other accomplished the dispossession by using force, threat, or fraud against the actor. Acts 1973, 63rd Leg., p. 883, ch. 399, Sec. 1, eff. Jan. 1, 1974. Amended by Acts 1993, 73rd Leg., ch. 900, Sec. 1.01, eff. Sept. 1, 1994. Sec. 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or tangible, movable property: (1) if he would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.41; and (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary: (A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or (B) to prevent the other who is fleeing immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the property; and (3) he reasonably believes that: (A) the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means; or (B) the use of force other than deadly force to protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury. those are the laws in Texas. the way I read it is it can be used more of a last resort. you can't just open fire on a door to door salesman |
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so deadly force appeers to not apply regardless
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