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warmachine's photo
Sun 05/03/09 02:28 PM
The New World Order is no theory. Case in point:

CNN: International Treaty Gives Foreign Troops Identity of American Gun Owners (CIFTA)


By: D. H. Williams @ 12:09 AM - EST

Its been known by those who actually read the history of Barack Obama as a U.S. Senator he is strongly anti-Second Amendment.

Both President Obama and V. P. Biden are veraciously anti gun, that is in the hands of U.S. citizens. But they have no such compunctions against massively increasing the size of para military organizations inside the U. S. like Homeland Security spending tax payer funds to provide FBI, DPS, Border Patrol, local police and DHS agents with military weapons and hardware.

Yet the public is told not to worry President Obama is not going after your guns. This is yet another lie being told by The White House and their press corp which apparently includes MSNBC. I sometimes get confused, who is Obama’s press secretary. Is it Robert Gibbs or Keith Olbermann?

Hidden somewhere in the hysteria of a Swine Flu Pandemic that isn’t and the latest Hollywood scandal is CIFTA. The Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms.

This international treaty (There is no world government, close your eyes and repeat as many times as necessary.) will provide world governments with information on American gun owners. These gun owners will be subject to prosecution by world governments for any “crimes” committed under this treaty. Such as reloading ammunition referred to in CIFTA as explosives manufacturing.

Video: CNN Lou Dobbs on CIFTA (International Gun Control)

http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2009/05/02/cnn-international-treaty-gives-foreign-troops-identity-of-american-gun-owners/

MirrorMirror's photo
Sun 05/03/09 10:00 PM

The New World Order is no theory. Case in point:

CNN: International Treaty Gives Foreign Troops Identity of American Gun Owners (CIFTA)


By: D. H. Williams @ 12:09 AM - EST

Its been known by those who actually read the history of Barack Obama as a U.S. Senator he is strongly anti-Second Amendment.

Both President Obama and V. P. Biden are veraciously anti gun, that is in the hands of U.S. citizens. But they have no such compunctions against massively increasing the size of para military organizations inside the U. S. like Homeland Security spending tax payer funds to provide FBI, DPS, Border Patrol, local police and DHS agents with military weapons and hardware.

Yet the public is told not to worry President Obama is not going after your guns. This is yet another lie being told by The White House and their press corp which apparently includes MSNBC. I sometimes get confused, who is Obama’s press secretary. Is it Robert Gibbs or Keith Olbermann?

Hidden somewhere in the hysteria of a Swine Flu Pandemic that isn’t and the latest Hollywood scandal is CIFTA. The Inter-American Convention Against Illicit Manufacturing of and Trafficking in Firearms.

This international treaty (There is no world government, close your eyes and repeat as many times as necessary.) will provide world governments with information on American gun owners. These gun owners will be subject to prosecution by world governments for any “crimes” committed under this treaty. Such as reloading ammunition referred to in CIFTA as explosives manufacturing.

Video: CNN Lou Dobbs on CIFTA (International Gun Control)

http://www.dailynewscaster.com/2009/05/02/cnn-international-treaty-gives-foreign-troops-identity-of-american-gun-owners/


glasses Interestingglasses

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Sun 05/03/09 10:11 PM
Since it is a treaty, only the Senate needs to vote on it. And it either passed in whole or not passed at all. It has been reported that Obama is pushing the Senate to ratify it. It does appear to be a pretty far reaching treaty and is really frightening. It would require registration. It would the acquisition of a permit to transport guns and/or ammunition, among other things.

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Mon 05/04/09 05:53 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 05/04/09 06:14 AM
Oh Geeze,,,,,,,,,

That bill doesnt change our gun laws one iota!

noway noway frustrated frustrated

adj4u's photo
Mon 05/04/09 06:39 AM

Oh Geeze,,,,,,,,,

That bill doesnt change our gun laws one iota!

noway noway frustrated frustrated


no it does not

but when it is time to take over

they will know where to go to get those guns that could be used against them

who is them (those that be [wanting a one world govt])

keep making excuses

one of the first things hitler did was gun registration then when he was ready to go to far he then rounded up all those privatly owned guns

answer this

what other reason would there be for a foreign power to know who owns a gun

do not come back with wht difference does it make i just said it

give a good reason why any other country should know who in the united states owns a gun

and what happens when the u n passes a resolution that gun ownership by private individuals is not to be tolerated

hows the sand at the beach i wonder

adj4u's photo
Mon 05/04/09 06:52 AM
kinda like bush

hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


The World Health Organization and the U.N. have been handed complete control over response procedures in the event of a pandemic outbreak in the U.S. after an agreement was signed by President Bush at the recent SPP meeting that bypasses congressional approval.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/020907_power_grab.htm


more signs of a puppeteer

warmachine's photo
Mon 05/04/09 07:00 AM

kinda like bush

hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


The World Health Organization and the U.N. have been handed complete control over response procedures in the event of a pandemic outbreak in the U.S. after an agreement was signed by President Bush at the recent SPP meeting that bypasses congressional approval.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/020907_power_grab.htm


more signs of a puppeteer



You're the man ADJ!

Fanta46's photo
Mon 05/04/09 07:31 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Mon 05/04/09 07:37 AM


Oh Geeze,,,,,,,,,

That bill doesnt change our gun laws one iota!

noway noway frustrated frustrated


no it does not

but when it is time to take over

they will know where to go to get those guns that could be used against them

who is them (those that be [wanting a one world govt])

keep making excuses

one of the first things hitler did was gun registration then when he was ready to go to far he then rounded up all those privatly owned guns

answer this

what other reason would there be for a foreign power to know who owns a gun

do not come back with wht difference does it make i just said it

give a good reason why any other country should know who in the united states owns a gun

and what happens when the u n passes a resolution that gun ownership by private individuals is not to be tolerated

hows the sand at the beach i wonder


Go read the bill!
It mostly has to do with manufactures data, but overall
it deals with arm smuggling!

The only ones who need to worry about it are those who attempt to supply weapons to a faction inside another country!
Gun Dealers for example who might supply weapons to a Mex drug cartel.

It poses no new laws on gun owners in this country and does not present any more info than is already required from gun owners.
It just makes it easier for them to prove a direct connection between guns brought into their country (already illegal) and the name of the person who last owned the guns.

It doesn't give their police or military the right to come into the USA and arrest that person. It gives them a name and reasonable proof so the suspects country can extradite the person for a crime, or at least have that persons brought in for questioning!

Nothing sinister.
No violation to the second amendment.
No wolf.

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Mon 05/04/09 07:36 AM


kinda like bush

hhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


The World Health Organization and the U.N. have been handed complete control over response procedures in the event of a pandemic outbreak in the U.S. after an agreement was signed by President Bush at the recent SPP meeting that bypasses congressional approval.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/020907_power_grab.htm


more signs of a puppeteer

Right on! Of each passing day, BHO reveals his hand. One day, he will show us, as he threatened the Banks, his Pitchforks.


You're the man ADJ!

Fanta46's photo
Mon 05/04/09 07:36 AM
Here ya go!

http://www.state.gov/p/wha/rls/49907.htm#

Go read it!

warmachine's photo
Mon 05/04/09 07:40 AM
slaphead

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Mon 05/04/09 07:40 AM


The only thing I see in there is Common sense legislation calling for cooperation between two border countries' law enforcement agencies!

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Mon 05/04/09 07:41 AM

slaphead


frustrated frustratedlaugh

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Mon 05/04/09 08:01 AM
CIFTA would bury the Second Amendment under “pertinent resolutions of the United Nations General Assembly.” It would criminalize ammunition reloading (defined as explosives manufacture) and gun assembly (including firearm kits and presumably breaking down weapons for cleaning or transport).

Obama has promised Mexican President Felipe Calderon that he would urge the Senate to take up CIFTA. After repeating the lie that 90% of the weapons seized in Mexican raids were purchased from U.S. gun shops and a reason why the U.S. needs to ratify this treaty. In fact, — only a mere 17% of guns found at Mexico crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.


Language contained in the CIFTA treaty insists it respects “the principles of sovereignty, nonintervention, and the juridical equality of states.” Not mentioned is the fact the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties has a superior rank to national laws. If the CIFTA treaty is ratified without exception, it would kill U.S. sovereignty and lead the way to destroying the Second Amendment.


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Mon 05/04/09 08:05 AM

CIFTA would bury the Second Amendment under “pertinent resolutions of the United Nations General Assembly.” It would criminalize ammunition reloading (defined as explosives manufacture) and gun assembly (including firearm kits and presumably breaking down weapons for cleaning or transport).

Obama has promised Mexican President Felipe Calderon that he would urge the Senate to take up CIFTA. After repeating the lie that 90% of the weapons seized in Mexican raids were purchased from U.S. gun shops and a reason why the U.S. needs to ratify this treaty. In fact, — only a mere 17% of guns found at Mexico crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.


Language contained in the CIFTA treaty insists it respects “the principles of sovereignty, nonintervention, and the juridical equality of states.” Not mentioned is the fact the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties has a superior rank to national laws. If the CIFTA treaty is ratified without exception, it would kill U.S. sovereignty and lead the way to destroying the Second Amendment.




NOOOoooooo.......

Go read it.

warmachine's photo
Mon 05/04/09 08:06 AM
Geez, why is it that folks always think I haven't read these pieces of crap, that erode our soveriegnty?

Fanta46's photo
Mon 05/04/09 08:13 AM

Geez, why is it that folks always think I haven't read these pieces of crap, that erode our soveriegnty?


Well, I cant speak for everyone, but it seems to me that if you read it there is no way could come from it with such an interpretation.

In no way does it say anything like you article or your interpretation of the treaty claim!

It in no way gives away any of our National sovereignty or takes away any rights guaranteed by the 2ND Amendment!

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Mon 05/04/09 08:41 AM

CIFTA would bury the Second Amendment under “pertinent resolutions of the United Nations General Assembly.” It would criminalize ammunition reloading (defined as explosives manufacture) and gun assembly (including firearm kits and presumably breaking down weapons for cleaning or transport).

Obama has promised Mexican President Felipe Calderon that he would urge the Senate to take up CIFTA. After repeating the lie that 90% of the weapons seized in Mexican raids were purchased from U.S. gun shops and a reason why the U.S. needs to ratify this treaty. In fact, — only a mere 17% of guns found at Mexico crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.


Language contained in the CIFTA treaty insists it respects “the principles of sovereignty, nonintervention, and the juridical equality of states.” Not mentioned is the fact the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties has a superior rank to national laws. If the CIFTA treaty is ratified without exception, it would kill U.S. sovereignty and lead the way to destroying the Second Amendment.




:thumbsup: Shine that Light, WM!

warmachine's photo
Mon 05/04/09 08:50 AM
Just like Nafta was great for our economy?

Just like the SPP was great for our Soveriegnty?

Just like the UN has really done any of the things they are supposed to, like they aren't up to their neck in tyranny, sex slaves, oil for food, rascism and other crap, but we will end up having to trust them that they are doing the right things with this info.






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Mon 05/04/09 10:01 AM

CIFTA would bury the Second Amendment under “pertinent resolutions of the United Nations General Assembly.” It would criminalize ammunition reloading (defined as explosives manufacture) and gun assembly (including firearm kits and presumably breaking down weapons for cleaning or transport).

Obama has promised Mexican President Felipe Calderon that he would urge the Senate to take up CIFTA. After repeating the lie that 90% of the weapons seized in Mexican raids were purchased from U.S. gun shops and a reason why the U.S. needs to ratify this treaty. In fact, — only a mere 17% of guns found at Mexico crime scenes have been traced to the U.S.


Language contained in the CIFTA treaty insists it respects “the principles of sovereignty, nonintervention, and the juridical equality of states.” Not mentioned is the fact the Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties has a superior rank to national laws. If the CIFTA treaty is ratified without exception, it would kill U.S. sovereignty and lead the way to destroying the Second Amendment.





wonder how much of the money used to make these alleged gun deals came from money made from drugs being moved threw mexico

hhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

will this be another of the many one sided deals that the states make if agreed to

if they would stop their drugs they would not of had the money for the guns

but it was not such a big deal cause they did not see it coming and now it is the fault of the united states

imagine that

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