Hate crimes include those against religious beliefs.

I can picture it now... A pastor goes into a gay rights meeting hoping to save all those poor lost souls. He's booed from the building at his near first mutterings of how they are all going to hell. He goes home and shoots himself because he can't believe that God did not help him and make them heed his word. The jury finds that the actions of the gay rights activists were at fault for his distress and throw the lot of them in jail.

Dang now if I had said that...

Wow, I just looked at that site. Talk about the hate.

Ohh...nooo...active imaginations are becoming contagious.

I am just better educated....

On madatory recycling... Seattle council makes recycling mandatory

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001816055_recycling16m0.html


NY Governor Paterson Proposes Soft Drink ‘Obesity Tax’

http://www.infowars.com/ny-governor-paterson-proposes-soft-drink-obesity-tax/

Schools to put a lid on soft drinks

http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2006-05-03-soda-schools_x.htm

http://www.chow.com/grinder/4760

Obese People Not Served Here



Top lawmaker wants mileage-based tax on vehicles

http://www.startribune.com/politics/national/congress/43892887.html?elr=KArks:DCiUHc3E7_V_nDaycUiacyKUUr


http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-03-06-cuss-free-zone_N.htm

Calif. city declares itself a cuss-free zone

Actually some would say it's not hate, it's at least obsessed if not hate. I thought to myself Anit Briant and Jerry Falwell, but I think this guy beats them both.

Are you saying this is in the existing law, or are you saying this is in the new bill. It's not in the new bill but that is the crux of existing hate crime law.

The people in here who call themselves Christians are hardly Christians because I can clearly see they are more interested in pleasing everyone else than the God they worship.If the Christians would get off their lazy butt and stop worrying about offending people we wouldn't have half the problems we have today.

Thomas,

It's not about worrying about offending people at all.

I read the bill.

I'm very much against violence towards people because their skin color is different or they are disabled. I am against violence against people if they have a different religion or are from another country or gay.

It does happen and it's wrong.

the link is no good, can't debunk that one for you.



Even if you just read the link you'll see that "proposes" not something that's been made law. And it is one that at the last I heard, was laughed out of existance.



Yup I remember that. It's not in the future it's in the past and it's been discarded.



Proposed not actual law.



Proposed not actual law.

Perhaps you don't understand that 1000's of absurd laws are proposed and never make it anywhere.



And finally this one is NOT a law at all proposed or passed. It was a proclamation with absolutely no teeth for any kind of enforcement. Again, "not a law"

Anything else you need debunked?

Nah, the lazy one's don't actualy think. I'll keep the ones that can actually think with out instruction manuals.

Since you are denying everything I guess I have to post it.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/04/health/04soda.html?ex=1304395200&en=80149e91b4b733bb&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss


Bottlers Agree to a School Ban on Sweet Drinks
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By MARIAN BURROS and MELANIE WARNER
Published: May 4, 2006
The country's top three soft-drink companies announced yesterday that beginning this fall they would start removing sweetened drinks like Coke, Pepsi and iced teas from school cafeterias and vending machines in response to the growing threat of lawsuits and state legislation.

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Under an agreement between beverage makers and health advocates, students in elementary school would be served only bottled water, low-fat and nonfat milk, and 100 percent fruit juice in servings no bigger than eight ounces. Serving sizes would increase to 10 ounces in middle school. In high school, low-calorie juice drinks, sports drinks and diet sodas would be permitted; serving sizes would be limited to 12 ounces.

The agreement, which includes parochial and private schools contracts, is voluntary, and the beverage industry said its school sales would not be affected because it expected to replace sugary drinks with other ones.

"This is a voluntary policy, but I think schools will want to follow it," said Susan K. Neely, president of the American Beverage Association.

Still, about 35 million public school children would be affected by the agreement, which would apply to extended school functions like band practice but would not apply to events likely to be attended by parents, like evening plays or interscholastic sports. An additional 15 million students attend schools that operate under stricter regulations, where the guidelines would not apply.

Last week, for example, Connecticut banned all sodas, including diet drinks and sports drinks like Gatorade, in its schools; New York City schools permit only low-fat milk, water and 100 percent fruit juice — which is sold under an exclusive contract with Snapple.

Contracts between schools and bottlers would be updated under the deal, and changes would not go into effect before the next school year.

The agreement was brokered by the Alliance for a Healthier Generation, a collaboration between the William J. Clinton Foundation and the American Heart Association. It is similar to an arrangement that the industry had been negotiating with a coalition of lawyers and the Center for Science in the Public Interest, an advocacy group, that had threatened to sue if an agreement could not be reached. The terms were accepted by the three biggest soft-drink companies, Coca-Cola, PepsiCo Inc. and Cadbury Schweppes (whose products include Dr Pepper and Snapple), which together control more than 90 percent of school sales.

At a news conference at his office in Harlem, Mr. Clinton called the beverage industry "courageous" for agreeing to switch to lower-calorie drinks. Mr. Clinton, who has made obesity a major issue of his postpresidency agenda, was joined by Gov. Mike Huckabee of Arkansas, a vocal proponent of fitness.

Later in the day, Mr. Clinton said it was more than the threat of lawsuits that spurred the agreement.

"We've been talking to them for months and months, and they may have liked the way we were working with them, not just singling them out," he said in a telephone interview. "I'm glad we did it without litigation and could accelerate the process."

It will take three years for the agreement to be put fully into effect. The industry has agreed at the end of each school year starting in 2007 to disclose the progress toward fulfilling the agreement. The new standards are expected to be in place in 75 percent of schools by the summer of 2008 and all by 2009. The success of the program depends on schools' willingness to amend existing contracts, industry representatives said.

The majority of school contracts with Pepsi Bottling Group, Pepsi's largest bottler, for instance, are for three to five years, said its spokeswoman, Kelly McAndrew, who said Pepsi would encourage schools to renegotiate their contracts.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001816055_recycling16m0.html

Seattle council makes recycling mandatory

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Recycling will become mandatory in Seattle under new rules the City Council passed unanimously yesterday.

The new rules require Seattle residents to recycle paper, cardboard, glass and plastic bottles, and aluminum and tin cans, starting Jan. 1, 2005. If these recyclable materials are found in garbage cans and trash bins, the containers will be tagged as part of a yearlong education campaign.

Beginning in 2006, residential customers will be warned if the materials are found in trash receptacles. If banned materials are found three times, the city will refuse to collect the garbage until such items are removed.

Commercial customers can be fined up to $50 for each container that includes banned materials. But single-family households will not face a monetary penalty under the new rules.

The rules stem from Seattle's slumping recycling rate, which dropped from 44 percent in 1995 to 38 percent in 2001. The city's goal is a 60 percent recycling rate by 2010. The city was supposed to hit a 52 percent rate last year.

"Our main purpose is to get people to recycle more paper. That's our main emphasis, not the punitive points of this," said Marianne Bichsel, spokeswoman for Mayor Greg Nickels, who sent the recycling initiative to the council earlier this year.

Seattleites throw out about 72,000 tons of recyclable paper each year.

Nickels' original proposal also called for commercial customers, such as restaurants, to recycle food waste, but the new rules don't require that. City officials still are refining the details of such a plan.

"We need food waste to make our goal, no question. That's still a core part of our proposal," said Tim Croll, community-services director for Seattle Public Utilities.

The city is negotiating rates, collection schedule, billing and customer service for the food-waste program, Croll said.




The new rules require the city to launch an education program in 2004, then a "tagging" and warning program in 2005, followed in 2006 by actual enforcement.

"This will stiffen people's spines, I think," said Alan Durning, executive director of Northwest Environment Watch. "I hope the city will hurry and move on to food-waste recycling because it's the next frontier."

The recycling initiative is projected to have a net cost of $272,000 next year. By 2007, a net savings of more than $2 million is projected, according to Councilwoman Margaret Pageler, as more waste is diverted from landfills and the city saves on disposal costs.

Seattleites are generating more garbage every day, up from 2.38 pounds per person per day in 1990 to 2.6 pounds per day in 2001.

Theories abound as to why recycling has fallen in Seattle and other cities. Some say recycling is not as trendy as it once was. Others point to declining prices for recyclable materials. "People may be getting a little lazy, a little sloppy," Durning said.

This much is clear, according to city officials: While single-family households have seen just a slight dip in recycling, the big problem is on the commercial side, where business-recycling rates have dropped 12 percent since 1995.

City officials stressed that customers should not worry about dramatic changes to their current service. "One misplaced piece doesn't make it a federal case. We're not going to slash open plastic bags. We don't have time to do it," said Croll.

Instead, Croll said, garbage collectors will pop the lid on a typical residential garbage can and look for an obvious infraction, such as newspapers piled on top of trash bags. If it appears that more than 10 percent of the garbage is made up of recyclable materials, then a customer will be notified and warned.

Inspections will be different on the commercial side, which includes business, institutions and multifamily housing complexes. Croll said city staffers will use a random method to check customers. Then they will look into trash bins for evidence.

Elderly or frail citizens can receive help, he noted, so they don't have to take their containers out to the curb. If they call Seattle Public Utilities and make arrangements, city collectors will pick up garbage, yard waste and recycling from the side or back of the house.

"This will be a milestone and hopefully restore our lead in recycling," said Council President Peter Steinbrueck. "It is not unduly onerous, to business in particular."

What does any of this have to do with the topic?

Ok I know I'm probably wasting my breath but I'll try anyway. Please look at the date on this. I told you I remember it, it is not future law it was past law. I remember when the took all the soda's out of the school. It was a FAILED program (unfortnately I kind of like that one), but the soda went right back into the schools a year later. Again this is not future it's past. And frankly this was not even on your list so I'm not sure why it's here.

You know what, you're right. He's never gonna get it anyway. I'm done even bothering responding to this nonsense. Thanks

I am so done with talking to you.Nothing is worse than debating a person who can't deal with the facts.My whole point to even posting these articles is to show that they do exist,and despite if they got passed or not is to show that there are people everyday trying to pass these stupid laws.There is no doubt in my mind that as the years go by many of these dumb laws will get passed.

OMG Thanks I needed a good laugh before I went to bed. Glad to know your done it was getting so old.

I think I might post some articles on bigfoot sightings...you know to prove...

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