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Topic: 2012 cataclysmic changes from a polar shift
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Sat 04/11/09 05:24 AM
Edited by Up2Us on Sat 04/11/09 05:35 AM
The following link is a interview with Brent Miller regarding a potential polar shift in 2012. Would our government inform the general public?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzlCha41FqI


Coming Polar Shift - 2012

George Knapp welcomed researcher Brent Miller, of The Horizon Project, who warned of mounting evidence that Earth is due for a polar shift which will end civilization as we know it. "It could happen tomorrow, it could happen 50 years from now, but all the evidence that we've been able to collect indicates that the next one is about to happen," Miller cautioned of the global catastrophe that he sees as imminent.

Describing the cataclysmic changes which would befall the planet during such an event, Miller said that as the poles move, the equator will be upended as well. According to him, this will result in widespread geographical changes due to wild gravitational shifts. Noting the preponderance of water on the planet, he said that "during this sloshing about, as Earth wobbles and reorients itself, what happens is that the waters literally decimate all the coastal areas around the planet." Painting a grim picture of a post-shift world, Miller estimated that the event would "wipe out four billion people within six months and then a 'Mad Max' scenario."

Miller explained that the Horizon Project based their forecast for a polar shift on a growing number of anomalies around the world. He cited weather oddities, such as snowfall in Baghdad for the first time in over 100 years and the increase in earthquakes in unlikely locations. According to him, off-planet clues, like the increase in solar activity, also lend credence to a polar shift scenario occurring in the future. While he suspected that the worlds' governments knew of this impending disaster, he was doubtful of any official announcement, saying "I think we are given all the warning we're going to be given. We're seeing all the signs."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzlCha41FqI

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Sat 04/11/09 08:43 AM
I'm more concerned about the fact that the price of m&m's is increasing and the company is secretly planning on reducing the size of each m&m.

I think the government should have warned us that this was going to happen so we could have stocked up on the cheaper larger m&m's.

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Sat 04/11/09 11:49 AM
It's a conspiracy James... laugh

Tubs of ice cream are no longer 1/2 gallon either! They are slightly less. huh

Candy bars have shrunk in size as well!!!

The do not put gum in baseball cards any longer either?

The Wendy's jrs and McDonalds McChickens have shrunk as well!!!

It's all about the bottom line...

Capitalism at it's finest. Heck, I bet the doomsday prophets are making quite a profit with all of the uncertainty in the system.

:wink:

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Sat 04/11/09 12:16 PM
can or will any greatest or most truth ever be sold???

perhaps such lends to the ability to disseminate motive's spread abraod, with the seeds of data, which have always been sown along with the prevailing winds of motive, such making the interpretation of data fit the motive or first belief???

if such things are the MOST truth, all things having "some truth", and some "shipping motive packaging" along with it, as "singular personal opinion", then why would such be sold, when such vital data, any "neutral", or sincere heart of concern, would avail all efforts to provide to the public, simply for the service and well being of humanity itself???

your ship has rust and holes, and is gonna sink, so pay me $25.00, and find out how to save thyself???

just seems an easy way to peer thru the haze, of indeed many world changes, due straight ahead???

peace


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Sat 04/11/09 02:03 PM
Edited by Up2Us on Sat 04/11/09 02:03 PM
History Channel - 2012 and Earth Changes (Part 1 of 3)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iloM0vjEAMY


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Sat 04/11/09 02:10 PM
Is that a Y2K bug I see crawling across the screen?

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Sat 04/11/09 02:22 PM
bigsmile If Nostradamus and the Mayans said it, then it must be true!bigsmile

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Sat 04/11/09 02:39 PM
to deny imminent change is in the cards for history, would be to deny history itself, so perhaps it is just some of all things spoken down thru history all put together as one total picture???


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Sat 04/11/09 06:55 PM
Edited by Up2Us on Sat 04/11/09 07:00 PM

Is that a Y2K bug I see crawling across the screen?


Nope....It's a 2012 Catastrophe Bug

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Sat 04/11/09 07:19 PM
2012: Leaks Found in Earth's Magnetic Field

Scientists have found two large leaks in Earth's magnetosphere, the region around our planet that shields us from severe solar storms.

The leaks are defying many of scientists' previous ideas on how the interaction between Earth's magnetosphere and solar wind occurs: The leaks are in an unexpected location, let in solar particles in faster than expected and the whole interaction works in a manner that is completely the opposite of what scientists had thought.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPLjnqS8UeY&feature=related

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Sat 04/11/09 07:22 PM
and behold, the angel's set forth the winds from the four corners of the earth, and declared time shall be no more???

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Sat 04/11/09 08:29 PM


In many ways this tends to support the philosophies that suggest that we create reality via our thoughts. Things like the law of attraction for example.

Think about this for a minute.

After all, the world as been here for billions of years, what's a minute? laugh

Ok so that's the point right there. The world has been here for billions of years. Plant life mostly aquatic algae survived for literally billions of years. Mostly shielded from harmful radiation by the ocean itself. The breath of these plants actually gave rise to the atmosphere as we know it today including the formation of the thin Ozone later that protects us from ultraviolet radiation from the sun.

This took place over billions of years without any major catastrophes. At least not any that were threatening to the aquatic plant life.

Much more recently life moved onto the land and evolved into large beasts that roamed the Earth for over 300 million without a hitch. That quite a long period of time for no major catastrophes that could wipe out the entire ecosystem.

But what did those dinosaurs THINK?

Well, clearly they didn't think about ozone layer depletion or magnetospheres or solar flares. All they thought about was getting something to eat, and reproducing. Pretty simple thoughts. They lived without a major hitch for 300 million years.

Then there was a major catastrophe that killed them all off. Many belief it was an asteroid impact. That paved the way for rodents to evolve into monkeys and finally into humans.

So here we are. As a species we've only been on the planet for a few hundred thousand years. (not even one million years yet).

Yet already we're dreaming up all sorts of ways to be destroyed. Asteroid impacts, global warming, solar flares, magnetosphere changes, etc., etc., etc.

And if nature refuses to do us in, we're bent on having our own battle of Armageddon and pretend that a God is going to come and save use whilst the nukes are in the air exploding all around us.

Maybe there's truth to the idea that our thoughts create reality. We think so much about how we can be destroyed that we're bound to do ourselves in before we even come close to competing with the lifespan of the species of dinosaurs.

I often wonder if mankind will even make it to the one million year mark. That would only be 1/300ths of the lifespan enjoyed by the dinosaurs as a whole.

We are a species still in diapers. Not even yet potty trained.

Will we think ourselves into an early demise with our constant lust for drama?

If things like the "Law of Attraction" are true, then we are the ones who are attracting all this stuff.

If atheism is true, then we just happened to evolve at the wrong time in the Earth's history. Too bad we hadn't evolved when the dinsosaurs did, we could potentially have lived for 300 million years before the astroriod came. Surely by then we would have been able to avert that disaster as we can almost attempt that today in our infancy at less that one million years old as a species.

Was our evolution just bad timing?

Or is there something to this idea that we attract all this crap to us by our thoughts? huh

I try to think of m&m's daily in the hope that life can be sweet. bigsmile

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Sat 04/11/09 09:15 PM
2012 is not the end of the world, but a time of possible catastrophes.
Simply pull up a lawn chair put on your shades,glasses and watch all the asteroid impacts, global warming, solar flares, magnetosphere changes, etc., etc., etc. Oh yeah....while eating your bag of m&ms'...laugh

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Sat 04/11/09 09:42 PM


...not to mention the chinese calendar ending in 2012,or could it be that all the planets will align and i still wont have a date ..at least i'm still batting a thousand...laugh

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Sun 04/12/09 12:00 PM
it is only in the perception of man to see such things as doom, man always fearing the unknown, naturally, and not just seeing all such things as normal, as part of the constant evolving ways of life, created by the cosmos and planet herself, the earth turning it's clock face, progressing into changes, and into new GREATER life, earth circling thru the life cycles, just as man's clock face's do, so only a fearful perception would call such things as this as doom, as what is doom but a "doom" perspective so perception, which can only be had if not having yet all data, making then things no longer unknown???

the cosmos is indeed infinite, no beginning and no ending, never ending, all things just cycling thru the infinite circle of infinite, and the end of each cycle bring a new beginning, a climbing higher into higher realms, facilitated by the cosmos itself, or man would have stayed as primitive, thinking that was comfort, so then man is but primitive now, and just ready to move into more enlightened, which spell more POWER, as man has increased in POWER, each cycle, being given more, NOT LESS???

so all that is to be is most good, once the fear is passed thru, that reside in all things human, that fear the unknown, so deny it, as to not have to face it???

but to face it then, and pass thru the fear, reveal how and what shall happen, and how it shall be MAXIMUM GOOD, that current man has not yet witnessed, so natrually a scary thing, so who is defective or bad for this???

no chnage has ever happened to the earth, without first thee telling of many of what would become, all down thru time???

it is only eye's that base all reality on two eye's, that will not accept all other eye's as equal eye's, and telling a piece of good knowing, and putting all together as one story, throwing down bias toward other's as less intelligent than self, that proclude the heart from knowing the sooner what shall become???



peace to peace to peace


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Sun 04/12/09 12:08 PM
personally, if it's true, i can't wait.
this world is going down the drain fast and it needs to be flipped upside down. we have all grown week and whiny and few have had anything to really test their mettle, myself included.

bring it on.


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Sun 04/12/09 12:09 PM
the world will be fine. nothing we can do will actually hurt the planet

however the people may not last

99% of all species that ever lived on Earth are extinct

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Mon 04/13/09 03:11 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Mon 04/13/09 03:20 PM
I love this wild imaginative stuff, really makes me wonder who falls for this crap.

Let me ask a few questions here, maybe someone will give me a great big laugh and try to answer them.

1) why would gravity be affected AT ALL by a change in magnetic north? I mean it moves around already without gravity being effected at all. There is no physics to support the EM field generated by earth having any e/affect on earth's gravity well.

2) why would the axis of the earth be effected by the magnetic field changing orientation? Magnetic north is already NOT the same as true north now is it? Hmm wonder why that is? Maybe you should do some self education to help yourself better battle these wild claims. Do you realize how much force would be needed to spin the earth over? Where would this force come from? The object exerting a magnetic field is not moved by that magnetic field unless another field comes close, they must enteract to have an effect on the objects . . . so please explain this . . .

3) why 2012? Because the Myan's knew something we don't? Because every year when our calenders end it means the end of the world or do we just start a new one?


PS solar activity has declined , and stabilized over the last 10 years . . . . so your data is even WRONG.

Man this stuff is just too easy to bat down sometimes.


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Mon 04/13/09 05:19 PM
Edited by davidben1 on Mon 04/13/09 05:26 PM
B billyclub....

your last sentence say what your motive first was, when reading data, so what do you expect or think your eye's will see and find???

the brain is a "rolodex", that reach in and pull out the "card of definition", or interpretation, based on it's own motive, when viewing all data???

if one try to "bat down" all but what self think, this make for "one perception" IN THE UNIVERSE AS KING, AS THE TOTAL REALITY AND POSSIBLITY BAROMETER???

but, if one hear all things as possible, then the mind is left open, and then when it read something else, it may be able to ADD all things together, to gather a larger picture that ALL DATA TOGETHER PRESENTS, larger than what just "two eye's" see, as the WHOLE POSSIBLITIY OF UNIVERSAL AND COSMOS REALITY???

seems like a miniscule perception to use???

NOTHING HAPPEN, NOR IS DISCOVERED, FOR NO REASON AT ALL, AND ALL IS A PIECE OF A GIGANTIC PUZZLE, BUT THE CLOSED SINGULAR MIND LIKE TO QUANTIFY MOST AS MEANINGLESS, EVEN ALL THINGS IT DOES NOT UNDERSTAND ITSELF, OR DOES NOT LIKE, OR THINK POSSIBLE, OR IS AFRAID OF, IN DUE TIME???

yes, everything speak with agenda, some for fear, some for personal gain, some for spite, BUT DOES THAT MEAN THE DATA ITSELF IS TAINTED, AND NOT AS TRUE???

a jaded employee, decide to reveal past ignored practice's within it's environment???

does that mean the data revealed is NOT TRUE???

to use such as a basis for REALITY, IS TO LEAVE OUT MUCH REALITY, UNDER THE GUISE OF DENIAL, FOR BLAME SAKE, OR BECAUSE OF A "LABEL" SELF CAN FIND TO ATTACH TO IT???

this lead to nothing more possible than smaller and smaller perception???

the hindue's, the chinese, the myan's, the bible, current science, much music, many movies, all streaning into, and coming from the COLLECTIVE SUBCONSCIOUS OF MANKIND, ALL WRONG???

anything that put so much stock in just "two eyes", simply deems many, many, mnay, many, many, many, eye's as less intelligent than itself???

the broadest, largest, most encompassing, most embracing eye's of possibility, are naturally the most knowing eye's???

simply due to the eye's that embrace all data as good data, seeing more outside data besides itself as relevant, and all for a good reason, wihch then resist making assumptions, and surmizing, until all data is in, until after the gathering of ALL DATA, then, ONE CAN MAKE A REASONABLE ASSUMPTION, this way LEAVING OUT SELF BIAS, which is the most natural things of man, but a blindsiding plight of all mankind as well, since the beginning of time???

peace










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Mon 04/13/09 05:22 PM

I love this wild imaginative stuff, really makes me wonder who falls for this crap.

Let me ask a few questions here, maybe someone will give me a great big laugh and try to answer them.

1) why would gravity be affected AT ALL by a change in magnetic north? I mean it moves around already without gravity being effected at all. There is no physics to support the EM field generated by earth having any e/affect on earth's gravity well.

2) why would the axis of the earth be effected by the magnetic field changing orientation? Magnetic north is already NOT the same as true north now is it? Hmm wonder why that is? Maybe you should do some self education to help yourself better battle these wild claims. Do you realize how much force would be needed to spin the earth over? Where would this force come from? The object exerting a magnetic field is not moved by that magnetic field unless another field comes close, they must enteract to have an effect on the objects . . . so please explain this . . .

3) why 2012? Because the Myan's knew something we don't? Because every year when our calenders end it means the end of the world or do we just start a new one?


PS solar activity has declined , and stabilized over the last 10 years . . . . so your data is even WRONG.

Man this stuff is just too easy to bat down sometimes.




the problem with the poles shifting is that the proverbial "they" think it will be a gradual process and that there will be scattered failures of the magnetic field across the planet (sort of like a hole in the ozone) and that the deadly cosmic rays will will able to hit the earth without being guided to the poles by the field

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