This whole "bad boy" and "nice guy" thing is in my book a cop out so to speak. Women say they want just the confident guy who has an "edge", and I can understand why that would be attractive, but they get let down time and time again....but continue to go back for more. So I feel, instead of telling all these "nice guys" to become bad boys, maybe some of these thrill seeking women need to reevaluate, what they really need in a relationship. I come across as a "nice guy" and actually do fit that mold. But if you are to look at my history...whether it be sexual or just plain crazy behavior, I have done, you could say I am a bad boy. But that still isn't enough for most women. Some women truly want an asshole. A genuine, don't give a crap a-hole. This may hold me back in some respects, but I have decided to be true to myself and act like a gentleman in most circumstances.

I've never had anything against a 'nice guy' until I joined this site and see, day after day, thread after thread, of self-professed 'nice guys' bemoaning that they can't get the girl.

I've dated many guys who were nice (personally, I prefer the term 'good people' but they all had one commonality; they didn't gripe about the poor hand life dealt them. Rather, they picked themselves off of their ass and any self-pity was very short lived.

You think women want an asshole? Maybe you should read through the thread (and the million other 'nice guy' threads) and see what a woman's definition of a 'nice guy' and a 'bad boy' are. We've all got our pre-conceived notions of concepts and terms.
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It's DEFINITELY a 'wornout' concept on here. Whatever happened to "guys" .. that's it. Just "guys"

Many people, whether male or female, dislike the straightjacket that social acceptability has always been. The force towards conformity is part of the value system, just as effective as a bra for training and holding the shape...and of course there are spots that chafe, especially if you need to live a "larger life" at times.
Look back in history, over thousands of years, there have been "bad" people breaking away from traditions and conformity. Many--perhaps even most--of the great thinkers and doers of history broke away from the mind-numbing self-restrictive thinking around them. If their attempts gained notoriety (and their badness was unsuccessful) then they were punished. If their attempts were successful, then the outcome was that history changed, and sometimes the path of society and civilization changed, and they became esteemed for their great "contribution" to broader thinking, science, music, etc.
"Well-behaved women seldom make history," or something close to that, says a lot about the nature of society. Society defends itself, especially by those whom have cultivated success within the predictable rules.
So, there you are.
Choose to be a scarlet voyager, by night, and a pillar of society, by day...or choose to go overboard in either direction, and lose the flavor of wildness balanced with mature responsibility.\

BTW
As an American, and being thankful for ALL the contributors to the founding and forming and early growth of this nation, I tend to have a higher regard for pirates and outcasts than is taught in schools. The noblest fighters that gave me a heritage worthy of keeping were often outcasts, loners, adventurers, and religious misfits--of both sexes, and of many tribes and nations.
What I seem to hear, in the "attraction to bad boys" is distaste for the lukewarm or tepid milkiness of character that might define "nice guys" in some way.
[I am nice, to my princess, but that in no way is a reason for others to let down their guard with me. Enriching my life, at the expense of fools, is the trademark of my native currency: Buyer beware. ]

Wheres a bad boy!

It is no secret women who are attracted to the reject type bad boys and keep getting burned and going back for more pain are in need of evaluation that is for sure!
But there are nice girls and bad girls too and we dont try to be like each other or compete with each other or bash each other for our lifestyles or choices.
With all the good and bad guys and girls.. Everything evens out...

okay....here is scientifically why women usually go for the "bad boy" types, or the "assholes"

it is actually in their DNA believe it or not...many studies have looked into what attract women to men....and the overall conclusion that has been reached is this...

women are attracted to men sub-consciously by how much testosterone and other male-producing hormones.....this attraction can be created by smelling a man's sweat, hearing his voice, or even by the shape of his face

it is known that men with higher testosterone and those other male-producing hormones seem sexier and attractive to women....it just so happens that these hormones make the man seem like an "asshole" and actually makes him have an increased chance of cheating

we are just animals really that respond to hormones and possible pheromones given off by the opposite sex....the more of these hormones and pheromones, the more attractive they are to us


it is fine if you do not believe me...but read into studies that have been conducted about male hormones or even pheromones....i am reading a book now called "Do Gentlemen Really Prefer Blondes" The science behind attraction, sex, and love....it is a very interesting read

well I don't agree we are 'just animals' Nova .. we have souls - they don't BUT ..

I DO agree there are hormones, testosterone and even estrogen .. Just think how men are attracted to a woman in luuuuuv and especially one 'freshly f**ked' (excuse the bluntness but it's absolutely TRUE!).. I'm tellin you they can 'smell it'

Don't go for the 'bad boy' or the 'nice guy' type. Give me a Redneck Country Man!!!

i wasn't saying that we are just animals Fade....i meant that we have primal instincts that tend to make judgements for us without us knowing.....our animal side is especially drawn out in sexual attraction and the act of sex......look around the animal kingdom and you will see an astonishing amount of species that have mating rituals similar to our own

DMX why do good girls like bad guys,




[Dyme]
Why do good girls (what what what) like bad guys?

[DMX]
Hey yo Boo, why do (good girls) like bad guys?
Knowin that bad guys tell mad lies?
(And why do) dog niggaz (want a honey wit class?)
(Sometimes you want more than just a honey wit ass)

[DMX]
Uh, uh
Hey yo, who would ever think that the two would go good
Midtown honey, nigga from the hood
But knock on wood, I got this ***** (what?) excuse me
She don't like to be called a *****, try not to lose me
The rules we go by, where I'm from, she don't know
When I say I'm goin around the way, she won't go
(Hell no) C'mon baby, you aight with me
Tryin to get you, to spend the whole night with me
(But I'm a good girl) Uhh, that's why I like her
Couldn't treat her like a hoodrat, didn't bite her
Turn a church girl to a straight Ruff Ryder
Take her to the Ramada make it an all nighter
(Oh no, I only go to the Swiss hotel)
f---in with me? I have you in the back of the Chevelle
Like what (what) hittin it raw dogg in the butt
You was good this mornin, but tonight you a slut

Chorus: DMX (Dyme)

Why do (good girls) like bad guys
Knowin that bad guys tell mad lies?
(And why do) dog niggaz (want a honey wit class?)
(Sometimes you want more than just a honey wit ass)
Hey yo Boo, why do (good girls) like bad guys
Knowin that bad guys tell mad lies?
(Then why do) dog niggaz (want a honey wit class?)
(Sometimes you want more than just a honey wit ass)

[Dyme]
Hey yo Boo, I'm diggin you, cause you make me wanna do
all them things I was taught I wasn't supposed to
I'm secure, keep it tight while you on tour
(You f---in wit a dog!) That's why I'm feelin you more
Attractive to me, wit yo' tactics
Hit it like AHHH! Make me backflip
(You been tryin to act, rich, that's why I taxed you
And I just got married) Hell, but I ain't even ask you
(I'm just tellin you, cause nowadays, *****es be flippin)
One more *****, I'm skippin (Damn girl, stop trippin)
Cause you be actin like
(Listen, I ain't always talkin money
But I will keep you wit a smile, and walkin funny
So what's it gon' be?) Yo, what you mean? (What to do?
You want the nigga wit the slacks, or the jeans and the boots?
You wanna be safe or be laced, cause you can be replaced)
Yeah, you can be erased
(Don't get slapped, babyface)

Chorus

[DMX]
Man, I got shorty stayin out late (Well I keep him wit a cut
and his nails stay clean) At least I get a nut
And I got honey rebellin (And I stopped him from sellin)
I be gettin away with murder, right? (****, I ain't tellin)
Straight out the hood (yeah, nigga you get mushy)
I got honey suckin **** (and I got you eatin *****)
I can be good in a bad way (I can be bad in a good way)
Girl, you ain't the same dog (that's what them rats in the hood say
or would say, if you was around them more often)
I got honey smokin weed (it be havin me coughin)
She keep the dog on the leash (when we walk in the streets)
And if y'all think it's sweet (then the dog's off the leash
Now I don't want no drama, wit no baby's mama
I might be a good girl, but I keeps the armor)
Girl, you off the hook, but at least now I know why
Good girls like bad guys

Chorus

[Dyme]
Why do good girls (what what what) like bad guys?
Why do good girls (what what what) like bad guys?
Why do good girls (what what what) like bad guys?
Why do good girls (what what what) like bad guys?
Uhh, uhh
C'mon, yeah, I like that
C'mon, wha wha what
Yeah yeah, DMX
Dyme, baby girl
Ruff Ryder, uhh, yeah..
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bad boys, nice guys...

just labels to limit and diminish real people

That be true

Not into bad boys, so I wouldn't know

BINGO!!!!! AMEN!!!!

depends on the badness we are speaking of, and what kind of bad

^^^^^^^^^^^^^

back at ya babe