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Topic: How flying saucers work.
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Fri 03/13/09 12:45 PM
(Paraphrased by Jeanniebean, as told to Dino Kraspedon by an alien captain of one of them.)


The atmospheric pressure on Earth is 1.033 kg. per sq. cm. If a sheet of paper is placed over the mouth of a glass full of water and turned upside down, the atmospheric pressure on the paper will prevent the water from being subject to the force of gravity and spilling out of the glass.

We use this natural atmospheric pressure in the flying saucer when flying through your atmosphere. It is this which gives us the necessary propulsive force.

If we maintain this pressure underneath the saucer and bring about a decompression on top, the craft will be given a terrific upward thrust which no known force can match.

We create a vacuum in the direction of travel. If we have low pressure on one side, the other side is subject to the full atmospheric pressure. Any object, whatever its nature, can only be moved if some difference of energy potential is created. For example, with a saucer of 20 m. diameter, we get 3,141,600 sq. cm. as the surface of the saucer.

With an atmospheric pressure of 1.033 kg. per sq. cm. we can calculate that the force operating on a saucer of 20 m. diameter is equal to 3,278,272.8 kg.

This gives you some idea of what is involved, even, the smallest type of saucer develops a thrust of approximately 3 million kg., whereas even your most powerful aeroplanes cannot develop more than a few thousand kilogrammes of thrust.

[By maintaining the vacuum in the direction of its flight, the saucer can move at any speed and without creating any friction with the atmosphere. It is also very easy to manoeuvre, since this vacuum can be moved in any direction. The atmospheric pressure developed on a saucer of 65 ft. diameter is over 3,000 tons; in the case of a saucer 'with a diameter of 200 ft. the pressure developed would be some 30,000 tons. This, therefore, is a tremendous source of power, unequalled by any other natural phenomenon.

Otto de Guericke was the first to notice the tremendous pressure of the atmosphere. It was in 1654 that he tried to pull two hemispheres apart in which he had created a vacuum. Not even the strength of sixteen horses could achieve this. Before this he had seen atmospheric pressure crush a copper boiler in which the pressure was low like a piece of paper. The movement of the air in the upper layers of the atmosphere supports this incredible pressure; if it were not for these we would be crushed by the volume of gas above us.

It should be perfectly feasible to construct a saucer on Earth. Its covering could be made of any material, as there would be no friction with the atmosphere. They could be any shape although the saucer shape is the ideal one, since one half can take the full force of the atmospheric pressure, while the other is immersed in a vacuum. The speed and manoeuvrability of a cube shaped craft would be impaired owing to air resistance on its sides, which would consequently be subject to friction.

Unfortunately a craft of this type could be used in war, but it would also revolutionise our transport systems if it could be constructed on Earth. Distance would not be a factor, ships and trucks could be dispensed with, as loading and unloading could take place anywhere without having to build special landing fields.

How the saucer is steered:

We can move this vacuum in. any direction. Course is set by operating an ordinary lever on a hemispherical mounting which moves the vacuum in the required direction. If we wish it to go in a particular direction, we produce a vacuum on that side of the saucer, and immediately the atmosphere produces a pressure on the opposite side pushing us in the direction of the vacuum. Let us imagine that we are moving in level horizontal flight, if we wish to make a right-angled turn, all we have to do is move the vacuum to the top, or to one of the other sides, and we shall move at the same speed in the new direction. We can change direction abruptly and do not need to describe curves. Do you understand now

We create a vacuum and use a thrust. Friction, however, does not arise as we are always moving into a vacuum.

And without friction the craft does not heat up. We often need extra heating to keep ourselves warm, because the vacuum causes a drop in temperature.

Creating the vacuum:

There are no technical difficulties involved in producing an external vacuum. You know that cathode rays have the strange property of decomposing the atmosphere through which they pass. Under the action of these rays, the elements of the atmosphere revert to their etheric state. In addition to this we make cathode rays intersect the anode rays at an angle of 45 degrees. This we achieve by using high voltage and current.

The cathode ray apparatus situated all over the peripheral area. That is to say, the whole of the outer edge of the craft acts as a cathode ray emitter. These rays are deadly and can only be projected outwards. If a human being were to be exposed to rays as powerful as the ones we use, his cells would be destroyed, and he would suffer lethal bur

But inside the craft there is less radioactivity than in the air that is breathed on Earth.

The coloration that saucers appear to give off in flight is caused by these rays, the same thing happens in a Crookes or Geissler tube. They are a result of the low pressure or vacuum that we create. If we wish to go very fast, we use an absolute vacuum, and move through space in a flash. At other times, we use a semi-vacuum, and we move more slowly. The intensity of the vacuum is proportional to the current used and is controlled by a rheostat. If we want to follow an undulating course we use a pulsing current.

When we are using a semi-vacuum, you observe a luminosity around us at night; but if we are using an absolute vacuum we become invisible because light does not exist in a vacuum. This is the reason why people always say that we appear to be stationary and suddenly vanish and appear in another spot. [A diminution of the pressure in cathode ray tubes causes the light in them to disappear. Light therefore is an atmospheric effect, and if it were possible for us to live in a vacuum we would be in darkness

I must admit that other methods are also used, such as the bismuth system, which is still used on some craft to set up a difference of energy potential, in fact this was the system we used to use at first. [The captain described this other process to us, but as it was a complex one we would rather not repeat it here.]

After having traveled around for some time in these bismuth crates, a Being from another planet explained to us how to use a simpler method. Now they are only used for space travel by enthusiasts as a kind of sport, just as you still use sailing boats.

That, is how you can make a craft as fast as, or even faster than, a flash of lightning.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 03/13/09 12:48 PM

(Paraphrased by Jeanniebean, as told to Dino Kraspedon by an alien captain of one of them.)


The atmospheric pressure on Earth is 1.033 kg. per sq. cm. If a sheet of paper is placed over the mouth of a glass full of water and turned upside down, the atmospheric pressure on the paper will prevent the water from being subject to the force of gravity and spilling out of the glass.

We use this natural atmospheric pressure in the flying saucer when flying through your atmosphere. It is this which gives us the necessary propulsive force.

If we maintain this pressure underneath the saucer and bring about a decompression on top, the craft will be given a terrific upward thrust which no known force can match.

We create a vacuum in the direction of travel. If we have low pressure on one side, the other side is subject to the full atmospheric pressure. Any object, whatever its nature, can only be moved if some difference of energy potential is created. For example, with a saucer of 20 m. diameter, we get 3,141,600 sq. cm. as the surface of the saucer.

With an atmospheric pressure of 1.033 kg. per sq. cm. we can calculate that the force operating on a saucer of 20 m. diameter is equal to 3,278,272.8 kg.

This gives you some idea of what is involved, even, the smallest type of saucer develops a thrust of approximately 3 million kg., whereas even your most powerful aeroplanes cannot develop more than a few thousand kilogrammes of thrust.

[By maintaining the vacuum in the direction of its flight, the saucer can move at any speed and without creating any friction with the atmosphere. It is also very easy to manoeuvre, since this vacuum can be moved in any direction. The atmospheric pressure developed on a saucer of 65 ft. diameter is over 3,000 tons; in the case of a saucer 'with a diameter of 200 ft. the pressure developed would be some 30,000 tons. This, therefore, is a tremendous source of power, unequalled by any other natural phenomenon.

Otto de Guericke was the first to notice the tremendous pressure of the atmosphere. It was in 1654 that he tried to pull two hemispheres apart in which he had created a vacuum. Not even the strength of sixteen horses could achieve this. Before this he had seen atmospheric pressure crush a copper boiler in which the pressure was low like a piece of paper. The movement of the air in the upper layers of the atmosphere supports this incredible pressure; if it were not for these we would be crushed by the volume of gas above us.

It should be perfectly feasible to construct a saucer on Earth. Its covering could be made of any material, as there would be no friction with the atmosphere. They could be any shape although the saucer shape is the ideal one, since one half can take the full force of the atmospheric pressure, while the other is immersed in a vacuum. The speed and manoeuvrability of a cube shaped craft would be impaired owing to air resistance on its sides, which would consequently be subject to friction.

Unfortunately a craft of this type could be used in war, but it would also revolutionise our transport systems if it could be constructed on Earth. Distance would not be a factor, ships and trucks could be dispensed with, as loading and unloading could take place anywhere without having to build special landing fields.

How the saucer is steered:

We can move this vacuum in. any direction. Course is set by operating an ordinary lever on a hemispherical mounting which moves the vacuum in the required direction. If we wish it to go in a particular direction, we produce a vacuum on that side of the saucer, and immediately the atmosphere produces a pressure on the opposite side pushing us in the direction of the vacuum. Let us imagine that we are moving in level horizontal flight, if we wish to make a right-angled turn, all we have to do is move the vacuum to the top, or to one of the other sides, and we shall move at the same speed in the new direction. We can change direction abruptly and do not need to describe curves. Do you understand now

We create a vacuum and use a thrust. Friction, however, does not arise as we are always moving into a vacuum.

And without friction the craft does not heat up. We often need extra heating to keep ourselves warm, because the vacuum causes a drop in temperature.

Creating the vacuum:

There are no technical difficulties involved in producing an external vacuum. You know that cathode rays have the strange property of decomposing the atmosphere through which they pass. Under the action of these rays, the elements of the atmosphere revert to their etheric state. In addition to this we make cathode rays intersect the anode rays at an angle of 45 degrees. This we achieve by using high voltage and current.

The cathode ray apparatus situated all over the peripheral area. That is to say, the whole of the outer edge of the craft acts as a cathode ray emitter. These rays are deadly and can only be projected outwards. If a human being were to be exposed to rays as powerful as the ones we use, his cells would be destroyed, and he would suffer lethal bur

But inside the craft there is less radioactivity than in the air that is breathed on Earth.

The coloration that saucers appear to give off in flight is caused by these rays, the same thing happens in a Crookes or Geissler tube. They are a result of the low pressure or vacuum that we create. If we wish to go very fast, we use an absolute vacuum, and move through space in a flash. At other times, we use a semi-vacuum, and we move more slowly. The intensity of the vacuum is proportional to the current used and is controlled by a rheostat. If we want to follow an undulating course we use a pulsing current.

When we are using a semi-vacuum, you observe a luminosity around us at night; but if we are using an absolute vacuum we become invisible because light does not exist in a vacuum. This is the reason why people always say that we appear to be stationary and suddenly vanish and appear in another spot. [A diminution of the pressure in cathode ray tubes causes the light in them to disappear. Light therefore is an atmospheric effect, and if it were possible for us to live in a vacuum we would be in darkness

I must admit that other methods are also used, such as the bismuth system, which is still used on some craft to set up a difference of energy potential, in fact this was the system we used to use at first. [The captain described this other process to us, but as it was a complex one we would rather not repeat it here.]

After having traveled around for some time in these bismuth crates, a Being from another planet explained to us how to use a simpler method. Now they are only used for space travel by enthusiasts as a kind of sport, just as you still use sailing boats.

That, is how you can make a craft as fast as, or even faster than, a flash of lightning.




flowerforyou It certainly would have to be able to go faster than light to be capable of interplanetary travel.flowerforyou That would effectivly make it a time machine.flowerforyou

Dragoness's photo
Fri 03/13/09 12:49 PM
Interesting.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 03/13/09 01:08 PM
flowerforyou At light speed time effectivly stops for the object traveling at that speed, but even at that speed it would still be nearly impossible to travel intergalacticly. flowerforyou To go faster than light would effectivly be moving backwards thru time.flowerforyou

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Fri 03/13/09 01:22 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Fri 03/13/09 01:23 PM

flowerforyou At light speed time effectivly stops for the object traveling at that speed, but even at that speed it would still be nearly impossible to travel intergalacticly. flowerforyou To go faster than light would effectivly be moving backwards thru time.flowerforyou


This post only explains the method used to move through the earth's atmosphere, not intergalactic or interplanetary travel. (I am preparing that for a different post.)

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Fri 03/13/09 01:30 PM
LEAVING THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE:

I explained to you how the atmosphere can be ionised by cathode rays. The ionised "bubble" is absorbed by the atmosphere creating a vacuum in its rear into which the saucer is drawn, thus rising upwards. Now, the Earth develops a surface speed of 1,040 m.p.h., but no one feels it move. This means to say that if we continued to rise in relation to a point on the Earth's surface we should be increasing our speed, but would have no sensation of acceleration. On reaching a height of 250,000 miles from the Earth's surface we should, without any other effort than that of going upwards, reach a speed of 66,000 m.p.h., which is equal to the speed of revolution of the planet in space. We neither see nor feel the speed we have reached as we have no point of reference; but if there were a stationary observer outside the etheric envelope, in which we have no sensation of speed, he would see us moving at a terrific angular velocity.

Having reached this speed we would try to escape from the etheric coveting, falling into the vacuum. Due to the tendency of moving bodies to move in a straight line, we would leave the etheric envelope at a point at which the saucer, by following a straight line, would reach the planet we wanted to get to. The procedure would, of course, be different if we were using the "electric fluid" of the planet as our means of propulsion.

In order to explain one principle to you, I have had to omit another. I said "a straight line" in order to simplify the reasoning, but we have, in fact, to take into consideration the deflective action the forces of attraction and repulsion would have on us. We would, however, follow a rectilinear course because we have means of offsetting these differences. If we create a magnetic field with the powerful solenoids at our disposal, we should be attracted, and if we switch off the field, we should be repelled. That is why it is necessary to understand fully the laws of Nature, otherwise we would not reach any planet at all.

Also for the sake of simplicity I said that we leave the Earth at a speed of 66,ooo m.p.h. In practice the minimum escape velocity we use is 125,000 m.p.h., of which 66,000 are supplied by the Earth and the difference by the speed developed by the saucer within the atmosphere. Sometimes we use even higher speeds which to you would seem incredible. Nature has resources which the people of Earth have not dreamed of.

Using a speed of 66,000 m.p.h. with which the Earth provides us gratis, it would be possible for people to attempt a journey through space and reach other planets, but there would be certain dangers due to loss of energy though solar repulsion. It should be noted that we move at right angles to the direction of solar repulsion. If we were to move in the same direction we should be impelled by it, and if we were to move in an opposite direction we should be repelled by it, in which case we would suffer a loss of kinetic energy. Therefore a higher speed is required, as the laws of inertia are valid to some extent.

A pilot who is used to making these flights could do so using this low speed, but it would take him a long time.

With a high escape velocity we only require fuel or 'other sources of energy in small quantities for use within the saucer.

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Fri 03/13/09 01:33 PM
With a high escape velocity we only require fuel or 'other sources of energy in small quantities for use within the saucer.

We can completely disconnect the Crookes and Geissler tubes which bring about the atmospheric disturbance because we have no need for them. Once in a while they are used to deflect meteorites that we meet with en route. We generally connect them up when wandering meteorites appear on the screens of our detecting apparatus.

At a certain height above the Earth's atmosphere a body begins to rotate violently. This fact has been observed by you countless times, and it is these same factors which cause the Earth to rotate. Under low atmospheric pressure a body illuminated on one face, with the other in darkness, tends to rotate on itself on an imaginary axis. This is a grave danger for the inexperienced for the same thing happens in space. In order to correct this we heat up that part of the craft which is away from the Sun, and this maintains our balance.

The principal technique in astro-navigation lies in establishing contact with the etheric covering of the planet we wish to reach. We must always approach the planet in the direction of its rotation. If we were to approach it counter to its rotation, our craft would be broken to pieces. For this reason we approach the etheric mass at a tangent, following the direction of its movement. Two bodies travelling in the same direction have no relative velocity; it is as though they were both stationary. Then the contact between them does not give rise to any friction.

I should also add that we have means of stopping and starting the saucer in space and, naturally, of increasing or diminishing its speed. If we were travelling at 175,000 m.p.h. it would be dangerous to make contact with the etheric covering of a planet with a low speed of rotation, even if this took place in the direction of its movement. In such cases we reduce speed until we are moving at the same speed as the etheric covering.

This is a convenient place to explain to you the phenomenon of meteorites which reach the planets. If they reach the etheric envelope against the direction of the planet's rotation, they are broken to pieces, but if they come into it following the direction of rotation they sometimes manage to reach the surface of the planet. This, however, depends on the speed at which they reach the planet.

If we go from Earth to Jupiter, we generally use Mars or Venus as staging posts, depending on the positions of the planets at the time.

In your case, as you would not have any reliable means of correcting your speed in space, you should, if you were to undertake a voyage to Jupiter, proceed as follows:

Earth moves in orbit at 66,000 m.p.h., Mars at 54,O0O m.p.h. and Jupiter at 29,000 m.p.h. The solution would be to use Mars as a staging post, and attain a speed identical to this planet's rotation, that is to say 54,000S m.p.h. A difference of 25000 m.p.h. between your speed and that of the ether of the planet will not produce too great a friction. In order to prevent accidents the Geissler tubes should be switched on at the moment of contact in order to avoid as much friction as possible. With the velocity supplied by Mars, the journey could be continued to Jupiter, but the trip would take a long time.

No landing should be made on Jupiter itself, but on the satellites. The small etheric envelope makes contact very dangerous, unless the craft has its own means of deceleration in space. You should aim by preference for Ganymede, which has a large etheric envelope and atmosphere moving at a high speed. Io can also be recommended. It would be wrong for you to pass via Venus since this planet has a velocity of 77,000 m.p.h. and the difference between this speed and Jupiter's would be too great.

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Fri 03/13/09 01:35 PM
Q: What would happen if we were to stop the craft? For example, if we approached a planet with only vertical acceleration and no horizontal acceleration?

A: You would only do this once, there would be no second time. You would be utterly destroyed. The shock would be of unparalleled intensity. It would be as though you were standing on a railway line and a train ran into you at high speed. We know because many of us made this mistake and died. It was also difficult for us to learn the secrets of space. You will not have these difficulties if you undertake a space journey one day, because we shall have told you the dangers that can dog the steps of the most courageous traveller.

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 03/13/09 03:23 PM


flowerforyou At light speed time effectivly stops for the object traveling at that speed, but even at that speed it would still be nearly impossible to travel intergalacticly. flowerforyou To go faster than light would effectivly be moving backwards thru time.flowerforyou


This post only explains the method used to move through the earth's atmosphere, not intergalactic or interplanetary travel. (I am preparing that for a different post.)
happy Khappy

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 03/13/09 03:24 PM

LEAVING THE EARTH'S ATMOSPHERE:

I explained to you how the atmosphere can be ionised by cathode rays. The ionised "bubble" is absorbed by the atmosphere creating a vacuum in its rear into which the saucer is drawn, thus rising upwards. Now, the Earth develops a surface speed of 1,040 m.p.h., but no one feels it move. This means to say that if we continued to rise in relation to a point on the Earth's surface we should be increasing our speed, but would have no sensation of acceleration. On reaching a height of 250,000 miles from the Earth's surface we should, without any other effort than that of going upwards, reach a speed of 66,000 m.p.h., which is equal to the speed of revolution of the planet in space. We neither see nor feel the speed we have reached as we have no point of reference; but if there were a stationary observer outside the etheric envelope, in which we have no sensation of speed, he would see us moving at a terrific angular velocity.

Having reached this speed we would try to escape from the etheric coveting, falling into the vacuum. Due to the tendency of moving bodies to move in a straight line, we would leave the etheric envelope at a point at which the saucer, by following a straight line, would reach the planet we wanted to get to. The procedure would, of course, be different if we were using the "electric fluid" of the planet as our means of propulsion.

In order to explain one principle to you, I have had to omit another. I said "a straight line" in order to simplify the reasoning, but we have, in fact, to take into consideration the deflective action the forces of attraction and repulsion would have on us. We would, however, follow a rectilinear course because we have means of offsetting these differences. If we create a magnetic field with the powerful solenoids at our disposal, we should be attracted, and if we switch off the field, we should be repelled. That is why it is necessary to understand fully the laws of Nature, otherwise we would not reach any planet at all.

Also for the sake of simplicity I said that we leave the Earth at a speed of 66,ooo m.p.h. In practice the minimum escape velocity we use is 125,000 m.p.h., of which 66,000 are supplied by the Earth and the difference by the speed developed by the saucer within the atmosphere. Sometimes we use even higher speeds which to you would seem incredible. Nature has resources which the people of Earth have not dreamed of.

Using a speed of 66,000 m.p.h. with which the Earth provides us gratis, it would be possible for people to attempt a journey through space and reach other planets, but there would be certain dangers due to loss of energy though solar repulsion. It should be noted that we move at right angles to the direction of solar repulsion. If we were to move in the same direction we should be impelled by it, and if we were to move in an opposite direction we should be repelled by it, in which case we would suffer a loss of kinetic energy. Therefore a higher speed is required, as the laws of inertia are valid to some extent.

A pilot who is used to making these flights could do so using this low speed, but it would take him a long time.

With a high escape velocity we only require fuel or 'other sources of energy in small quantities for use within the saucer.
bigsmile Interestingbigsmile

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 03/13/09 03:25 PM

With a high escape velocity we only require fuel or 'other sources of energy in small quantities for use within the saucer.

We can completely disconnect the Crookes and Geissler tubes which bring about the atmospheric disturbance because we have no need for them. Once in a while they are used to deflect meteorites that we meet with en route. We generally connect them up when wandering meteorites appear on the screens of our detecting apparatus.

At a certain height above the Earth's atmosphere a body begins to rotate violently. This fact has been observed by you countless times, and it is these same factors which cause the Earth to rotate. Under low atmospheric pressure a body illuminated on one face, with the other in darkness, tends to rotate on itself on an imaginary axis. This is a grave danger for the inexperienced for the same thing happens in space. In order to correct this we heat up that part of the craft which is away from the Sun, and this maintains our balance.

The principal technique in astro-navigation lies in establishing contact with the etheric covering of the planet we wish to reach. We must always approach the planet in the direction of its rotation. If we were to approach it counter to its rotation, our craft would be broken to pieces. For this reason we approach the etheric mass at a tangent, following the direction of its movement. Two bodies travelling in the same direction have no relative velocity; it is as though they were both stationary. Then the contact between them does not give rise to any friction.

I should also add that we have means of stopping and starting the saucer in space and, naturally, of increasing or diminishing its speed. If we were travelling at 175,000 m.p.h. it would be dangerous to make contact with the etheric covering of a planet with a low speed of rotation, even if this took place in the direction of its movement. In such cases we reduce speed until we are moving at the same speed as the etheric covering.

This is a convenient place to explain to you the phenomenon of meteorites which reach the planets. If they reach the etheric envelope against the direction of the planet's rotation, they are broken to pieces, but if they come into it following the direction of rotation they sometimes manage to reach the surface of the planet. This, however, depends on the speed at which they reach the planet.

If we go from Earth to Jupiter, we generally use Mars or Venus as staging posts, depending on the positions of the planets at the time.

In your case, as you would not have any reliable means of correcting your speed in space, you should, if you were to undertake a voyage to Jupiter, proceed as follows:

Earth moves in orbit at 66,000 m.p.h., Mars at 54,O0O m.p.h. and Jupiter at 29,000 m.p.h. The solution would be to use Mars as a staging post, and attain a speed identical to this planet's rotation, that is to say 54,000S m.p.h. A difference of 25000 m.p.h. between your speed and that of the ether of the planet will not produce too great a friction. In order to prevent accidents the Geissler tubes should be switched on at the moment of contact in order to avoid as much friction as possible. With the velocity supplied by Mars, the journey could be continued to Jupiter, but the trip would take a long time.

No landing should be made on Jupiter itself, but on the satellites. The small etheric envelope makes contact very dangerous, unless the craft has its own means of deceleration in space. You should aim by preference for Ganymede, which has a large etheric envelope and atmosphere moving at a high speed. Io can also be recommended. It would be wrong for you to pass via Venus since this planet has a velocity of 77,000 m.p.h. and the difference between this speed and Jupiter's would be too great.
flowerforyou You sure do know a lot about this stuffflowerforyou

MirrorMirror's photo
Fri 03/13/09 03:26 PM

Q: What would happen if we were to stop the craft? For example, if we approached a planet with only vertical acceleration and no horizontal acceleration?

A: You would only do this once, there would be no second time. You would be utterly destroyed. The shock would be of unparalleled intensity. It would be as though you were standing on a railway line and a train ran into you at high speed. We know because many of us made this mistake and died. It was also difficult for us to learn the secrets of space. You will not have these difficulties if you undertake a space journey one day, because we shall have told you the dangers that can dog the steps of the most courageous traveller.



:tongue: You dont have to brag.:tongue: We know you have your own starship JB:tongue:

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Fri 03/13/09 04:41 PM
You sure do know a lot about this stuff


No I don't. I find it on the Internet. I post it here because I think it is interesting and maybe something to think about or discuss.


no photo
Fri 03/13/09 04:45 PM
I think that both gravity, and space travel has to do with electromagnetism.

I believe many UFO's are extraterrestrial in origin and I think there is a logical explanation for how they operate in our atmosphere the way they do, seemingly defying our laws of physics.

The government and the scientists can ignore them and refuse to talk about them or what they are but that does not make them disappear. Too many people have seen them.






s1owhand's photo
Fri 03/13/09 04:53 PM
http://web.mit.edu/womens-ult/www/smite/frisbee_physics.pdf

markecephus's photo
Fri 03/13/09 05:25 PM
The atmospheric pressure on Earth is 1.033 kg. per sq. cm. If a sheet of paper is placed over the mouth of a glass full of water and turned upside down, the atmospheric pressure on the paper will prevent the water from being subject to the force of gravity and spilling out of the glass.


I did not believe this, so i tried it..just now. I placed a sheet of regular copy paper, over a brimming full glass of water, and inverted it..the paper didn't even get wet, until i inadvertently lost my grip while returning it to an upright position....

I attribute it to physics though...i'm not convinced of alien life forms, but i wouldn't rule it out.

s1owhand's photo
Fri 03/13/09 05:40 PM

The atmospheric pressure on Earth is 1.033 kg. per sq. cm. If a sheet of paper is placed over the mouth of a glass full of water and turned upside down, the atmospheric pressure on the paper will prevent the water from being subject to the force of gravity and spilling out of the glass.


I did not believe this, so i tried it..just now. I placed a sheet of regular copy paper, over a brimming full glass of water, and inverted it..the paper didn't even get wet, until i inadvertently lost my grip while returning it to an upright position....

I attribute it to physics though...i'm not convinced of alien life forms, but i wouldn't rule it out.


it is false. the water experiences gravity and atmospheric pressure.

laugh drinker

markecephus's photo
Fri 03/13/09 05:51 PM

try it, slowhand...i would have bet the same...in fact that is why i went to the kitchen, and saw for myself. :wink:

no photo
Fri 03/13/09 05:53 PM


try it, slowhand...i would have bet the same...in fact that is why i went to the kitchen, and saw for myself. :wink:


when waitresses p*ss me off I do that

and set it on the table and slide the paper out. its impossible to pick up withut spilling the whole glass

no photo
Fri 03/13/09 05:59 PM


The atmospheric pressure on Earth is 1.033 kg. per sq. cm. If a sheet of paper is placed over the mouth of a glass full of water and turned upside down, the atmospheric pressure on the paper will prevent the water from being subject to the force of gravity and spilling out of the glass.


I did not believe this, so i tried it..just now. I placed a sheet of regular copy paper, over a brimming full glass of water, and inverted it..the paper didn't even get wet, until i inadvertently lost my grip while returning it to an upright position....

I attribute it to physics though...i'm not convinced of alien life forms, but i wouldn't rule it out.


it is false. the water experiences gravity and atmospheric pressure.

laugh drinker
Correct. Gravity does not stop.

Gravity effects me regardless of the 16 lbs of atmospheric pressure being exerted on my now.

Learning science should start in the class room.

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