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Topic: Straight from a black horse's mouth!
Seamonster's photo
Tue 03/10/09 04:58 PM


Wow a 'black' 'female' '''conservative''' doesn't like Obama or his policies. Wow!!

Next!

Man, I don't remember if the losers last time B$tched this much.. It's a part of life, win some lose some. But it's not like all the condesending remarks are going to change the fact that Obama is our president, right or wrong.

There's twits on both sides of the isle, and always will be. Someone will always be the winner and someone the loser, not sure how all this liberal attacking is going to really make you feel better, but if it makes ya happy I will jump out and let you have at it until it wears ya out. slaphead waving


Complacency kills. Look at the boat you are in. If you think rolling overt and accepting bad service is the answer then you get what you pay for.

Freedom is not free!


Freedom is not free?

How bumperstickerish of you.

You found a black woman that spoke out against Obama and then you parade her around like it's some kind of weird victory.

His aproval raiting is 61% higher than Bush Clinton and Reagan at this time.

Bush has damn near destroyed this country and you cant seem to wait to help destroy whats left.

Good Job.


think2deep's photo
Tue 03/10/09 05:21 PM



Wow a 'black' 'female' '''conservative''' doesn't like Obama or his policies. Wow!!

Next!

Man, I don't remember if the losers last time B$tched this much.. It's a part of life, win some lose some. But it's not like all the condesending remarks are going to change the fact that Obama is our president, right or wrong.

There's twits on both sides of the isle, and always will be. Someone will always be the winner and someone the loser, not sure how all this liberal attacking is going to really make you feel better, but if it makes ya happy I will jump out and let you have at it until it wears ya out. slaphead waving


Complacency kills. Look at the boat you are in. If you think rolling overt and accepting bad service is the answer then you get what you pay for.

Freedom is not free!


Freedom is not free?

How bumperstickerish of you.

You found a black woman that spoke out against Obama and then you parade her around like it's some kind of weird victory.

His aproval raiting is 61% higher than Bush Clinton and Reagan at this time.

Bush has damn near destroyed this country and you cant seem to wait to help destroy whats left.

Good Job.




so what if his approval rating is 61% of who ever they asked? are you trying to impress someone with a poll? if you are, or if you are impressed by it yourself, then you need to ask yourself exactly when was it that you were asked by these people. i wasn't asked anything by them. find out who was, bet you can't.

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 03/10/09 05:27 PM
i personally don't like polls. to have an accurate poll...you would have to poll all

i have never been polled

AndyBgood's photo
Tue 03/10/09 05:33 PM



Wow a 'black' 'female' '''conservative''' doesn't like Obama or his policies. Wow!!

Next!

Man, I don't remember if the losers last time B$tched this much.. It's a part of life, win some lose some. But it's not like all the condesending remarks are going to change the fact that Obama is our president, right or wrong.

There's twits on both sides of the isle, and always will be. Someone will always be the winner and someone the loser, not sure how all this liberal attacking is going to really make you feel better, but if it makes ya happy I will jump out and let you have at it until it wears ya out. slaphead waving


Complacency kills. Look at the boat you are in. If you think rolling overt and accepting bad service is the answer then you get what you pay for.

Freedom is not free!


Freedom is not free?

How bumperstickerish of you.

You found a black woman that spoke out against Obama and then you parade her around like it's some kind of weird victory.

His aproval raiting is 61% higher than Bush Clinton and Reagan at this time.

Bush has damn near destroyed this country and you cant seem to wait to help destroy whats left.

Good Job.




Sigmund, that was some constructive criticism...huh


Let me name some other Blacks who I respect...

Colon Powell, and he didn't want the presidency!

Condoleza Rice, black woman who is a VERY high ranking Republican! Had she of run for president I would have voted for her in an instant. Heck, I would put angel kisses on her tight black ass as well! She is a woman I would be proud as hell to have under my arm at a party!

Larry Elder, black, gay, and a conservative, and spoke his mind intelligently.

That is just a few of the contemporary black people who I respect.

Now in an attempt to be diplomatic I am not going to toss a snide comment like yours back at you. It would make me a smaller person for resorting to that. I am not going to even go on to citing all the fallacies you have committed in public speaking. I could care less what this poll or that poll says. I am going on what I am seeing and the trends that are being followed. Oddly a black conservative woman I never heard of before summed things up nicely. History before I was born is not lost to me. Again the article if you have been reading it was sent to me by a friend of mine. I didn't "FIND" it. It came to me!

Besides, if you are all that and the bag of potato chips what are you doing here on mingle2 if you are so high and mighty? I'm sure someone of your intellect and stunningly good taste doesn't have a problem with the ladies???

Also let me correct you further, The damage began with JIMMY CARTER and Regan only staved off the after math of Carter's incompetence!
Then G Bush Senior came in with **** Cheney and proceeded to toss a big wrench into the works opening the door to more big business infiltrating our government.
Clinton came in and REALLY Screwed things up WHOLESALE and instead of fixing things then spending went nuts in his administration but wait!
G Bush Jr. comes in and thanks to the banks getting deeper into the treasury and the stupid in fighting between the DNC and GOP the country slid backwards as the housing bubble popped right behind the gas companies jacking up fuel costs! Bush's stimulus was jeered but Congress went with it.
Come Obama. What was his first act as president? Another BUSH STYLE stimulus with no accounting for where the money is coming from in the first place.

I think you can understand things better if you took the Obama sticker off of your face so you can read more. No it does not make you look anything like your hero.

I would have had respect for Obama if his first act was to halt ALL government spending and force them to address the budget issue and their rampant spending first!

I doubt he was American born as well! Until I see a document with a state seal on it the Hawaiian copy is nothing! I think you have been watching too many Sid and Marty Croft reruns to argue clearly. Counter me with intelligent commentary, not bumperstickerish comments. Is it too much to ask for well spoken and civil counterpoints rather than childish one liners?


think2deep's photo
Tue 03/10/09 05:47 PM
i think that everyone wants to see america do good, i don't see either side of congress or the executive branch wanting america to do good. if they did, then america would be doing good. one thing you guys have to think about though is the fact that this community reinvestment act didn't cause the gobal crisis. remember, our country wasn't even the first to go down. there is other forces at work here but we only see the situation in our own country. this is a global problem and really too coincidental that all of the countries have been feeling the same thing. for all of you that think that we did cause it with the CRA let me ask you to tell me which countries had the CRA too? it wasn't done on accident people. trust that.

Lynann's photo
Tue 03/10/09 08:57 PM
Make sure you have your shots before you let anyone kiss around here kiss your toe!

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 03/10/09 09:03 PM

Make sure you have your shots before you let anyone kiss around here kiss your toe!


laugh

raiderfan_32's photo
Tue 03/10/09 09:05 PM
Edited by raiderfan_32 on Tue 03/10/09 09:06 PM

i personally don't like polls. to have an accurate poll...you would have to poll all

i have never been polled


man, I can't believe I let thins one go.. such low hanging fruit

never been polled... mwahahahahahaha!!

yellowrose10's photo
Tue 03/10/09 09:08 PM


i personally don't like polls. to have an accurate poll...you would have to poll all

i have never been polled


man, I can't believe I let thins one go.. such low hanging fruit

never been polled... mwahahahahahaha!!


i think you are the only one that caught that. i didn't even catch it until after i typed it lol

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Tue 03/10/09 09:15 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Tue 03/10/09 09:22 PM

You have heard the term "straight from the horse's mouth?"

Well.... Here is an email I would like to pass along to all you Obama supporters because this one is scathing. Prepare to need ointment from the burn! Read carefully because this is coming from a BLACK WOMAN!






A very interesting look at a highly educated Black woman's view.

Anne Wortham is Associate Professor of Sociology at Illinois State University and continuing Visiting Scholar at StanfordUniversity's Hoover Institution. She is a member of the American Sociological Association and the American Philosophical Association. She has been a John M. Olin Foundation Faculty Fellow, and honored as a Distinguished Alumni of the Year by the National Association for Equal Opportunity in Higher Education.

In fall 1988 she was one of a select group of intellectuals who were featured in Bill Moyer's television series, "A World of Ideas." The transcript of her conversation with Moyers has been published in his book, A World of Ideas. Dr. Wortham is author of The Other Side of Racism: A Philosophical Study of Black Race Consciousness which analyzes how race consciousness is transformed into political strategies and policy issues.

She has published numerous articles on the implications of individual rights for civil rights policy, and is currently writing a book on theories of social an d cultural marginality. Recently, she has published articles on the significance of multiculturalism and Afrocentricism in education, the politics of victimization and the social and political impact of political correctness. Shortly after an interview in 2004 she was awarded tenure. This article by her is something else.

NO HE CAN'T

by Anne Wortham

Fellow Americans,

Please know:

I am black; I grew up in the segregated South. I did not vote for Barack Obama; I wrote in Ron Paul's name as my choice for president. Most importantly, I am not race conscious. I do not require a black president to know that I am a person of worth, and that life is worth living. I do not require a black president to love the ideal of America. I cannot join you in your celebration. I feel no elation. There is no smile on my face. I am not jumping with joy. There are no tears of triumph in my eyes. For such emotions and behavior to come from me, I would have to deny all that I know about the requirements of human flourishing and survival – all that I know about the history of the United States of America , all that I know about American race relations, and all that I know about Barack Obama as a politician.

I would have to deny the nature of the "change" that Obama asserts has come to America.

Most importantly, I would have to abnegate my certain understanding that you have chosen to sprint down the road to serfdom that we have been on for over a century.

I would have to pretend that individual liberty has no value for the success of a human life. I would have to evade your rejection of the slender reed of capitalism on which your success and mine depend. I would have to think it somehow rational that 94 percent of the 12 million blacks in this country voted for a man because he looks like them (that blacks are permitted to play the race card), and that they were joined by self-declared "progressive" whites who voted for him because he doesn't look like them.

I would have to wipe my mind clean of all that I know about the kind of people who have advised and taught Barack Obama and will fill posts in his administration – political intellectuals like my former colleagues at the Harvard University 's Kennedy School of Government. I would have to believe that "fairness" is the equivalent of justice. I would have to believe that man who asks me to "go forward in a new spirit of service, in a new service of sacrifice" is speaking in my interest. I would have to accept the premise of a man that economic prosperity comes from the "bottom up," and who arrogantly believes that he can will it into existence by the use of government force. I would have to admire a man who thinks the standard of living of the masses can be improved by destroying the most productive and the generators of wealth.

Finally, Americans, I would have to erase from my consciousness the scene of 125,000 screaming, crying, cheering people in Grant Park, Chicago irrationally chanting, "Yes We Can!" Finally, I would have to wipe all memory of all the times I have heard politicians, pundits, journalists, editorialists, bloggers and intellectuals declare that capitalism is dead – and no one, including especially Alan Greenspan, objected to their assumption that the particular version of the anti-capitalistic mentality that they want to replace with their own version of anti-capitalism is anything remotely equivalent to capitalism.

So you have made history, Americans. You and your children have elected a black man to the office of the president of the United States , the wounded giant of the world. The battle between John Wayne and Jane Fonda is over – and that Fonda won. Eugene McCarthy and George McGovern must be very happy men. Jimmie Carter, too. And the Kennedys have at last gotten their Kennedy look-a-like.

The self-righteous welfare statists in the suburbs can feel warm moments of satisfaction for having elected a black person. So, toast yourselves: 60s countercultural radicals, 80s yuppies and 90s bourgeois bohemians. Toast yourselves, Black America. Shout your glee Harvard, Princeton , Yale, Duke, Stanford, and Berkeley. You have elected not an individual who is qualified to be president, but a black man who, like the pragmatist Franklin Roosevelt, promises to – Do Something! You now have someone who has picked up the baton of Lyndon Johnson's Great Society.

But you have also foolishly traded your freedom and mine – what little there is left – for the chance to feel good. There is nothing in me that can share your happy obliviousness.

No He Can't








Yes she did go there and for all you optimists out there SUCK IT! This woman sums up Obama's message of hope nicely! There is nothing to look foreword to but repeating of history!

Us pessimists have reason to fear! Blind hope does not drive me at least! Real hope comes from real action, not acting like the predecessor!
Words are meaningless, actions do have meaning. Meaningless action is show. Action with purpose is meaningful. Obama is going to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt his worthlessness to address congress's sins.


flowers


For you Obama supporters out there this is for you...

rofl

Yes I am laughing AT you!

Hugs yall'


I guess there are still naive people, for lack of a better word, who believe that all black folks would agree with Obama because he is black????!!!!

In my opinion, not liberal by the way, a standard belief I have, that there are blind people who cannot see the damage that these right wingers have on this nation in all races, creeds, sexual preference, etc....

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Tue 03/10/09 09:32 PM
Edited by raiderfan_32 on Tue 03/10/09 09:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

which person more reflects your way of thinking, the lady in the video or the woman who wrote the op??

please, just a straw poll of the audience..

no photo
Tue 03/10/09 09:38 PM

Man, I don't remember if the losers last time B$tched this much.. It's a part of life, win some lose some.


were you in a coma for both of the two elections that preceeded this past one?

Cylcists on the south plains (where mean instantaneous wind speed is around 12 mph) have a saying.. the only time you never feel the wind wis when it's at your back..

the only reason you don't remember the last time people got so upset over an election is because it was you (most likely) who was so upset over the last election...

people still ***** about how bush was "selected, not elected" that was 8 years ago

memo to Al Gore.. you win some, you lose some.. only wacko nut jobs go into seclusion and grow a unibomber style beard.


fanta meltdown in 5, 4, 3, 2...


I am not one prone to hysteria, sorry to disappoint you. I was referring to the level of b$tching, not the fact that there was *****ing. Bush won, that was it for me, I returned to living my life and watching the events unfold like most Americans. Frankly it was enough that he won, I didn't much care to engage in arguments about selected and elected. Now I hear from republicans b$tching that this election wasn't a fair election. Ugh, I don't like it on both sides. So no I was not in a coma. Good try though... :wink:

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Tue 03/10/09 09:56 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P36x8rTb3jI

which person more reflects your way of thinking, the lady in the video or the woman who wrote the op??

please, just a straw poll of the audience..


what? no takers??

and boo,

that's cool. I just thought it was funny that you were peeved that people were *****ing about the pres since all I can remeber hearing from every democrat everytime a microphone was shoved in their face, could say how much bush was an a-hole and how everything in the world that was wrong was because george bush still drew breath..

every night on leno and letterman, it never stopped. Jon Stewart owes his career to W. As does Colbert.

I guess it's one of those shoe on the other foot things..

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