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Kat |
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yet for many this is too much effort and work after a long hard day at work. I agree, most parents get tired of parenting long before their children even learn to talk. Telling children to not do certain things because, "I said so", or because, "It's against the law", or even because, "The Bible says it's bad" are all just cop-outs to avoid having to actually face the issue and speak to why something is good or bad. In truth, the Bible itself has very little to offer in the way of healthy parenting skills. In fact, there's nothing in the Bible about people needing to take full responsiblity for raising their children or that this should be the focus of their life should they DECIDE to have children. In fact, back when the Bible was written people didn't even think in terms of PLANNED parenthood! It was just taken for granted the women get pregnant and have babies. "Be fruitful and multiply!" That almost comes arcoss as, "Take procreation and your childern for granted!" Truly, if the creator of this universe would have written the Bible it probably would have been focused on raising children properly. Surely and ALL-WISE God would realize that if you raise children properly then you aren't going to end up with all these sinners running around as adults anyway. The mere fact that the Bible is aimed toward throwing the fear of God into adults instead of being an INTELLIGENT GUIDE to parenting skills proves to me beyond any shadow of a doubt that it was written by corrupt men who had an agenda to controll the masses using FEAR and not by any all-divine intelligent being who would have spoken to the people more INTELLIGENTLY. The Bible just isn't intelligent enough to be the word of any supposedly all-wise God. That's all there is to it. Some people argue that God had to talk stupid because he was talking to stupid people. But there are too problems with that. First off, even a mortal man knows better than to act stupid to try to teach stupid people to be wise. And the secondly if God created man then why did he create him to be so mentally handicapped? Why didn't he create INTELLIGENT PEOPLE? There's a HUGE difference between being evil and being stupid, or lazy. If people are STUPID they have no one to blame but their CREATOR. A person isn't any more responsible for being stupid than they are for the color of their eyes. If God created men with stupid brains you can't blame that on men! |
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Edited by
Abracadabra
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Wed 02/18/09 01:56 PM
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Hi Kat!
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yet for many this is too much effort and work after a long hard day at work. I agree, most parents get tired of parenting long before their children even learn to talk. Telling children to not do certain things because, "I said so", or because, "It's against the law", or even because, "The Bible says it's bad" are all just cop-outs to avoid having to actually face the issue and speak to why something is good or bad. In truth, the Bible itself has very little to offer in the way of healthy parenting skills. In fact, there's nothing in the Bible about people needing to take full responsiblity for raising their children or that this should be the focus of their life should they DECIDE to have children. In fact, back when the Bible was written people didn't even think in terms of PLANNED parenthood! It was just taken for granted the women get pregnant and have babies. "Be fruitful and multiply!" That almost comes arcoss as, "Take procreation and your childern for granted!" Truly, if the creator of this universe would have written the Bible it probably would have been focused on raising children properly. Surely and ALL-WISE God would realize that if you raise children properly then you aren't going to end up with all these sinners running around as adults anyway. The mere fact that the Bible is aimed toward throwing the fear of God into adults instead of being an INTELLIGENT GUIDE to parenting skills proves to me beyond any shadow of a doubt that it was written by corrupt men who had an agenda to controll the masses using FEAR and not by any all-divine intelligent being who would have spoken to the people more INTELLIGENTLY. The Bible just isn't intelligent enough to be the word of any supposedly all-wise God. That's all there is to it. Some people argue that God had to talk stupid because he was talking to stupid people. But there are too problems with that. First off, even a mortal man knows better than to act stupid to try to teach stupid people to be wise. And the secondly if God created man then why did he create him to be so mentally handicapped? Why didn't he create INTELLIGENT PEOPLE? There's a HUGE difference between being evil and being stupid, or lazy. If people are STUPID they have no one to blame but their CREATOR. A person isn't any more responsible for being stupid than they are for the color of their eyes. If God created men with stupid brains you can't blame that on men! Hey you...yeah you...Abra...clean slates with which to apply knowledge. I have missed you dear....miss me?? Kat |
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Edited by
scttrbrain
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Wed 02/18/09 01:56 PM
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Hi Kat! Oh ok then...bout time you say "hi" to me...you sweet thang. Kat |
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Edited by
smiless
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Wed 02/18/09 02:09 PM
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yet for many this is too much effort and work after a long hard day at work. I agree, most parents get tired of parenting long before their children even learn to talk. Telling children to not do certain things because, "I said so", or because, "It's against the law", or even because, "The Bible says it's bad" are all just cop-outs to avoid having to actually face the issue and speak to why something is good or bad. In truth, the Bible itself has very little to offer in the way of healthy parenting skills. In fact, there's nothing in the Bible about people needing to take full responsiblity for raising their children or that this should be the focus of their life should they DECIDE to have children. In fact, back when the Bible was written people didn't even think in terms of PLANNED parenthood! It was just taken for granted the women get pregnant and have babies. "Be fruitful and multiply!" That almost comes arcoss as, "Take procreation and your childern for granted!" Truly, if the creator of this universe would have written the Bible it probably would have been focused on raising children properly. Surely and ALL-WISE God would realize that if you raise children properly then you aren't going to end up with all these sinners running around as adults anyway. The mere fact that the Bible is aimed toward throwing the fear of God into adults instead of being an INTELLIGENT GUIDE to parenting skills proves to me beyond any shadow of a doubt that it was written by corrupt men who had an agenda to controll the masses using FEAR and not by any all-divine intelligent being who would have spoken to the people more INTELLIGENTLY. The Bible just isn't intelligent enough to be the word of any supposedly all-wise God. That's all there is to it. Some people argue that God had to talk stupid because he was talking to stupid people. But there are too problems with that. First off, even a mortal man knows better than to act stupid to try to teach stupid people to be wise. And the secondly if God created man then why did he create him to be so mentally handicapped? Why didn't he create INTELLIGENT PEOPLE? There's a HUGE difference between being evil and being stupid, or lazy. If people are STUPID they have no one to blame but their CREATOR. A person isn't any more responsible for being stupid than they are for the color of their eyes. If God created men with stupid brains you can't blame that on men! What gets me is how parents use the bible to teach their children morales and lessons on how to live a life, yet if one looks at the book their are so many contradictions that I could never teach my child. Fear is one of them I would never teach. I can think of a dozen better ways to raise a child without having him or her fear me to keep order in a family let alone friendship, love, harmony, and true understanding. yet every Sunday families go to a church listening to the preacher and screaming Jesus is my savior while the child looks at a dead man on a cross suffering from the wounds the Romans did to him. Well some lesson that is! |
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yet every Sunday families go to a church listening to the preacher and screaming Jesus is my savior while the child looks at a dead man on a cross suffering from the wounds the Romans did to him. Well some lesson that is! It's all about guilt and shame. And I agree, that's a very sick mentality to bring children up with. I don't believe that any decent benevolent God would have ever been stupid enough to have his son nailed to a pole for the purpose of accepting that act to save their butts. That's just plain sick. The really crazy thing is that if this hadn't become such a popular religion over the last couple of millennia and architects just now discovered a bible NOBODY would take it seriously! We would all view it as being just as utterly asburd as all the other myths of that period. There's just nothing wise or divine about it. That's the bottom line. |
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Fear is a human emotion we need it as we need joy, sorrow, amazement, love, hate and all human emotions. We have to know how to use them and channel them the best way we can, each emotion brings another emotion and another.
If we have no fear of fire we will get burn someday, sometimes even if it is sad it is the only way to learn. |
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Fear is a human emotion we need it as we need joy, sorrow, amazement, love, hate and all human emotions. We have to know how to use them and channel them the best way we can, each emotion brings another emotion and another. If we have no fear of fire we will get burn someday, sometimes even if it is sad it is the only way to learn. Eastern Mystiscm teaches us not to fear fire but to channel it to our satisfaction. The four elements are essential to sustain life, yet some choose to use fire as a evil thing to create fear. Some call it hell. I believe we can harness elements to our bidding to enjoy what nature gives us. I don't fear fire. I choose to understand it and teach that it is a part of life that sustains us. Fear is a emotion that we have sometimes, but not one we need to teach or use against others in my opinion and it has been just recently used to influence a whole nation. May we use fear to a minimum (if not at all) and put more effort in positive emotions instead. |
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Bible - stone children in the streets if they don't obey their parents I know the bible says this. this is a command for parents to decide on from what i can see. What is rebelling to a parent. When do you go to this extreme? Do you know of an instance in the Bible where it says the parents took a child out into the streets and stoned him/her? Shalom...Miles Let alone that it is mentioned is something one should contemplate on and think perhaps this is not a good source to follow. Wouldn't you think? maybe. Then maybe if we are going to say that Yahweh did all these things and you all always want physical evidence. Would not you think if you are going to dive into a field and claim meanings. that you could show why this is so? I would not go to a computer programmer and say i have read about Fortron and you have it all wrong. Make me kind of a fool to do or say something i have only scratched the surface of programming. So why do you all think you can apply a different set of standards in what you claim the Bible says? Shalom...Miles Deuteronomy 21:18-21 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death." |
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Bible - stone children in the streets if they don't obey their parents I know the bible says this. this is a command for parents to decide on from what i can see. What is rebelling to a parent. When do you go to this extreme? Do you know of an instance in the Bible where it says the parents took a child out into the streets and stoned him/her? Shalom...Miles Let alone that it is mentioned is something one should contemplate on and think perhaps this is not a good source to follow. Wouldn't you think? maybe. Then maybe if we are going to say that Yahweh did all these things and you all always want physical evidence. Would not you think if you are going to dive into a field and claim meanings. that you could show why this is so? I would not go to a computer programmer and say i have read about Fortron and you have it all wrong. Make me kind of a fool to do or say something i have only scratched the surface of programming. So why do you all think you can apply a different set of standards in what you claim the Bible says? Shalom...Miles Deuteronomy 21:18-21 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death." This is truly sad to read. This alone makes me wonder how anyone can follow the words of this bible or use it as a guideline to life. |
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Bible - stone children in the streets if they don't obey their parents I know the bible says this. this is a command for parents to decide on from what i can see. What is rebelling to a parent. When do you go to this extreme? Do you know of an instance in the Bible where it says the parents took a child out into the streets and stoned him/her? Shalom...Miles Let alone that it is mentioned is something one should contemplate on and think perhaps this is not a good source to follow. Wouldn't you think? maybe. Then maybe if we are going to say that Yahweh did all these things and you all always want physical evidence. Would not you think if you are going to dive into a field and claim meanings. that you could show why this is so? I would not go to a computer programmer and say i have read about Fortron and you have it all wrong. Make me kind of a fool to do or say something i have only scratched the surface of programming. So why do you all think you can apply a different set of standards in what you claim the Bible says? Shalom...Miles Deuteronomy 21:18-21 If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, 19 his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of his town. 20 They shall say to the elders, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard." 21 Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death." This is truly sad to read. This alone makes me wonder how anyone can follow the words of this bible or use it as a guideline to life. I agree totally. That is just the tip of the iceberg. I don't understand how people can separate the god of the OT with the god of the NT. If, as they say, it is the same god then it is a cruel vindictive assh#le who is no better than the likes of Hitler. |
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