Topic: Why Smart People Believe Weird Things
yellowrose10's photo
Mon 02/16/09 02:30 PM
who determines what is smart and what is stupid?

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Mon 02/16/09 03:54 PM

who determines what is smart and what is stupid?


Its relative like everything else.

Did you see that silly movie on television last night called: Idiocracy? laugh laugh

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 02/16/09 03:56 PM


who determines what is smart and what is stupid?


Its relative like everything else.

Did you see that silly movie on television last night called: Idiocracy? laugh laugh


lol no...been sick and in bed. I agree it's relative. that was my point. just because i don't agree with something doesn't mean it's stupid

PhasmatisDiligo's photo
Mon 02/16/09 06:35 PM
I believe gremlins steal my lighters... does that mean i'm smart?!?! :D

or is it the other way around... "i think therefore i am... therefore i think wierd things?" pitchfork

OOH!!! i know!! I'm wierd... so smart things think... therefore... i... have ham?

wait... no!! frustrated

So a smart thing walks into a wierd bar...

oh ummm....

riiiight. wierd things have smart ideas!! WITH People!! aaaand... they're wierd!!

No no...

It's amazing Descarte didn't go insane!!


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Tue 02/17/09 10:54 AM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Tue 02/17/09 10:56 AM
I believe gremlins steal my lighters... does that mean i'm smart?!?! :D



The missing lighter syndrome is caused when you become attached to an item.

If you have ten lighters, and one of them is the best and your favorite lighter, that will be the one that goes missing.

I haven't figured this one out exactly, but it has to to with being "attached" to something to the point where in your mind you fear loosing it.

The fear of loosing the item, or the notion that you always seem to loose your favorite lighter, registers on your subconscious mind and it begins its work to manifest this reality that you keep visualizing.

Also, you will handle and use that lighter the most, and it will get moved around the most which creates more opportunities to be forgotten someplace.

Also, if you are attached to Money, you will find that you never have enough of it.

Obsessive attachment to a person, fear of loosing that person, will drive them away.

This is the law of attraction at work. It manifests the things you fear.






PhasmatisDiligo's photo
Tue 02/17/09 12:19 PM
lmao actually that has nothing to do with why my lighters go missing... it boils down to me being so absent minded and forgetting where i drop/leave things. ><

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Tue 02/17/09 12:34 PM

lmao actually that has nothing to do with why my lighters go missing... it boils down to me being so absent minded and forgetting where i drop/leave things. ><


Yes this would appear to be so, but it is always the favorite things that you misplace.

I am the most absent minded person I know. I can have ten pens and I will always loose my favorite one.

There are no exceptions to this rule. Its part of Murphy's law. laugh laugh laugh

PhasmatisDiligo's photo
Tue 02/17/09 02:44 PM
yes yes... murphy is quite the evil little bastage... i say we hunt him down... castrate him... then feed him to llamas!!!

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Tue 02/17/09 03:13 PM
if the human brain know itself is a bubble in a level, and that self THAT "WILL" ITSELF TO CREATE FOR ONE ALONE MOST, the brain will slide to the opposite side of whatever it seek???

self is "ELECTROMAGNETICALLY TIED" to ALL other brains!!!

THE HUMAN BRAIN IS THE "CREATOR" of all things HUMANLY CREATED, so the WAYS THE BRAIN "OPERATE", are the only thing that reveal HOW TO CREATE ANYTHING HUMAN THAT IS WISHED TO BE CREATED???

it can appear like the whole world is against self, to any brain that understands not itself???

the MIND see how it can benefit self, but the heart that see this is the ONLY THING THAT CAN CREATE LESS FOR SELF, it give up such notions that destroy the ability of self to create most good???

TO DESTROY any negative one leave within the brain is a most good, as it will guide the brain unconsciosly to many things SELF WILL WONDER WHY AND HOW!!!

the ENERGY OF NEGATIVE THOUGHTS OF OTHER BRAINS IMPOSE TREMENDOUS FORCE AGAINST THE BRAIN, so it is most wise to settle any dispute!!!

an enemy can ONLY WIN AGAINST SELF, if self is FIGHTING AGAINST IT'S OWN ENERGY OF ITSELF???

ONLY THE HEART HAS ACCESS TO UNDERSTANDING IT'S OWN BRAIN, as the mind is just to close to the matter at hand, lol......

peace




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Tue 02/17/09 03:44 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Tue 02/17/09 03:46 PM

who determines what is smart and what is stupid?
If you read the article you will see its all about not labeling things smart or stupid. Beliefs are malleable its about how we do not have many different ways to come to acceptance of a belief.

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Wed 02/18/09 08:52 AM


who determines what is smart and what is stupid?
If you read the article you will see its all about not labeling things smart or stupid. Beliefs are malleable its about how we do not have many different ways to come to acceptance of a belief.


INDEED ONE THAT SPEAKS WISDOM!!!

for the sight of ALL WORDS EVER SPOKEN, GATHERED BY THE MIND THAT SEE IT DID NOT IN PAST DAYS SEE ALL AS EQUAL, CAN "SEE" WHAT IS "ALL"???

the sight of "all" things together, GIVE ANYTHING SIGHT SO LARGE AND GREAT AND AWESOME, THAT IT HAS NO CHOICE BUT TO WANT TO DIE FOR IT???

the only passion when passion is gone and cannot be found, IS OPENING THE EYE'S TO ALL WORDS AS TRUE???

if a scientist inspect and prove how all things it finds can be true, then he proceed without any pre-concieved bias, and prove itself not biased, so is a "greatest scientist", and FINDS EASILY WHAT IS LESS TRUTH AND ONLY INTERPRETATION FROM ANOTHER'S HIS-STORY???

peace dear wise one!




yellowrose10's photo
Wed 02/18/09 08:55 AM


who determines what is smart and what is stupid?
If you read the article you will see its all about not labeling things smart or stupid. Beliefs are malleable its about how we do not have many different ways to come to acceptance of a belief.


I realize that..I was basically making a point

Strange's photo
Wed 02/18/09 09:31 AM
I suppose the general premise that smart people believe wierd things is a very ambigiously stated hypothesis. I agree that the social influences in that person environment will give rise to beliefs, called self-fulfilling phophecys in cognitive psychology. This happens on a regular basis with the "bad" kid at school. Studies have shown that unachieving students under the instruction of a teacher who is decieved into the belief that these children are in fact gifted influences the performance of the stundents learning and ability to be taught. By the end of the semester the children in the study far exceeded their former classmates. Reason being? The teachers belief changed their way of thinking about the situation when confronted with a student who didnt grasp what was being taught as well as the subconcious attitute that these children where special. Instead of labeling anyone a trouble maker and coming back to that paradigm whenever extra effort was required, instaed the teaher thought, well it must be something I'm doing wrong. The idea of wierd itself is implied by, not being the norm, so you can defend the history of science and "wierd ideas" by looking at the long journey and oppisition by peoples beliefs, religious beliefs often when opposed recieved harsh punishments. Its no mystery why that might be the current view, that people who believe in something like religion may be less reliant on logic and reason. Howevr einstien believed in god which is something that science cant quantify, to say it cant be quantified therefore it doesnt exist discounts a lot of theries with in the realm of science. Evolutionists are more likely to discount the idea of extra terrestrial life because of their intimate knowledge of the conditions and reactions pertaining to life, as well as why some believe in a god. Where as Astronomers confronted with sheer number of other galaxies and suns likely believe that other life is an inevitability, also less likely to believe in god for other reasons. There are many factors involved in ones beliefs and to say they are correlated with IQ or a measure of school aptitude seems trivial to the subject and premise.

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Wed 02/18/09 10:21 AM

I suppose the general premise that smart people believe wierd things is a very ambigiously stated hypothesis. I agree that the social influences in that person environment will give rise to beliefs, called self-fulfilling phophecys in cognitive psychology. This happens on a regular basis with the "bad" kid at school. Studies have shown that unachieving students under the instruction of a teacher who is decieved into the belief that these children are in fact gifted influences the performance of the stundents learning and ability to be taught. By the end of the semester the children in the study far exceeded their former classmates. Reason being? The teachers belief changed their way of thinking about the situation when confronted with a student who didnt grasp what was being taught as well as the subconcious attitute that these children where special. Instead of labeling anyone a trouble maker and coming back to that paradigm whenever extra effort was required, instaed the teaher thought, well it must be something I'm doing wrong. The idea of wierd itself is implied by, not being the norm, so you can defend the history of science and "wierd ideas" by looking at the long journey and oppisition by peoples beliefs, religious beliefs often when opposed recieved harsh punishments. Its no mystery why that might be the current view, that people who believe in something like religion may be less reliant on logic and reason. Howevr einstien believed in god which is something that science cant quantify, to say it cant be quantified therefore it doesnt exist discounts a lot of theries with in the realm of science. Evolutionists are more likely to discount the idea of extra terrestrial life because of their intimate knowledge of the conditions and reactions pertaining to life, as well as why some believe in a god. Where as Astronomers confronted with sheer number of other galaxies and suns likely believe that other life is an inevitability, also less likely to believe in god for other reasons. There are many factors involved in ones beliefs and to say they are correlated with IQ or a measure of school aptitude seems trivial to the subject and premise.


indeed, indeed, indeed!!!

the "perception self "peer thru", be what is most "perceieved" by self, and this alone CREATE ALL THAT SELF HAS THE ABILITY TO CREATE, IN THE THINGS AROUND ITSELF???

what be more the first natural "perception", than to think "all that is not as self is as "inferior", which indeed come not from anything except from BIAS SELF, LOL!!!

nothing can be "without bias", so it only be what ONE ALLOW IT'S BIAS TO TELL IT IS MOST REAL AND POSSIBLE???

IF THERE EXIST A "BIAS" TO SOMETHING AS NOT GOOD, THEN THERE IS AS WELL ANOTHER DEFINITION AVAILABLE BY "DEFAULT OF EXISTENCE", THAT CAN BE FOUND???

if there is a "definition" of normal, then SELF DECIDE WITH EACH LOOK "UNCONSCIOUSLY" WHAT IS NORMAL, so will ITSELF ONLY FIGHT TO BE "NORMAL", WHICH CREATE ONLY A CONSTANT GUIDE OF "NORMAL" FOR SELF TO FIGHT TO BE, EVEN AS A RELIGION IN THE EYE OF SELF???

IF ANYTHING SEE SOMETHING NOT FIRST AS PERFECT, BUT ONLY LACKING MORE KNOWING, THEN IT WILL PERPETUATE UNCONSCIOUSLY ALL THAT IS MORE LESS PERFECT IN THE WORLD???

GREAT INSIGHT STRANGE!!!

peace



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Wed 02/18/09 01:05 PM

I suppose the general premise that smart people believe wierd things is a very ambigiously stated hypothesis. I agree that the social influences in that person environment will give rise to beliefs, called self-fulfilling phophecys in cognitive psychology. This happens on a regular basis with the "bad" kid at school. Studies have shown that unachieving students under the instruction of a teacher who is decieved into the belief that these children are in fact gifted influences the performance of the stundents learning and ability to be taught. By the end of the semester the children in the study far exceeded their former classmates. Reason being? The teachers belief changed their way of thinking about the situation when confronted with a student who didnt grasp what was being taught as well as the subconcious attitute that these children where special. Instead of labeling anyone a trouble maker and coming back to that paradigm whenever extra effort was required, instaed the teaher thought, well it must be something I'm doing wrong. The idea of wierd itself is implied by, not being the norm, so you can defend the history of science and "wierd ideas" by looking at the long journey and oppisition by peoples beliefs, religious beliefs often when opposed recieved harsh punishments. Its no mystery why that might be the current view, that people who believe in something like religion may be less reliant on logic and reason. Howevr einstien believed in god which is something that science cant quantify, to say it cant be quantified therefore it doesnt exist discounts a lot of theries with in the realm of science. Evolutionists are more likely to discount the idea of extra terrestrial life because of their intimate knowledge of the conditions and reactions pertaining to life, as well as why some believe in a god. Where as Astronomers confronted with sheer number of other galaxies and suns likely believe that other life is an inevitability, also less likely to believe in god for other reasons. There are many factors involved in ones beliefs and to say they are correlated with IQ or a measure of school aptitude seems trivial to the subject and premise.
Well I agree with some of your statements here, but I am left wondering if you read the article.

practicallity's photo
Mon 03/02/09 07:05 PM
because we are intilectual and it smarts.

iamgeorgiagirl's photo
Mon 03/02/09 07:35 PM
It just goes to show everyone has their own special contribution in their own way. Not everyone can be a surgeon, artist, parent, mechanic, etc. I say to each their own. That is why we all shouldn't be so quick to discern and allow ourselves to contemplate beyond just our own beliefs. It is surprising to sometimes discover just how different other views can be and why they are as well. Diversity is what it's all about. It is something to appreciate for sure.

AdventureBegins's photo
Tue 03/03/09 09:21 AM

who determines what is smart and what is stupid?

Aye...

and who determines what is weird....

I have noticed that sometimes 'weird' people have a much firmer grasp of reality than many who carry the label 'smart'.

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Tue 03/03/09 02:50 PM
Weird is what is not normal. If 90% of the population believed in alien abductions it wouldn't be weird. It would be normal.

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Tue 03/03/09 02:52 PM
laugh but first you have to find normal people :wink: