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By Mark Tran The Guardian UK Wednesday 25 April 2007 A human rights group today attacked a US decision to file murder charges against a Canadian national and alleged Taliban fighter who was captured in Afghanistan when he was 15. Omar Khadr was wounded by US soldiers during a battle near Khost, Afghanistan, and taken into US custody in July 2002. He has spent most of the past five years in the US military prison at Guantánamo Bay. During his capture he was shot three times and is nearly blind in one eye as a result of his injuries. The US military says Mr Khadr threw a grenade that killed a US Green Beret sergeant, Christopher Speer, and wounded another sergeant, Layne Morris. Mr Khadr's Pentagon-appointed lawyer, Marine lieutenant colonel Colby Vokey, said the US would become the first country in modern history to try a war crimes suspect who was a child at the time of the alleged violations if a trial went ahead. Mr Khadr has been charged with murder, attempted murder, providing support to terrorism, conspiracy and spying under rules for military trials adopted last year. The conspiracy charge is based on acts allegedly committed before Mr Khadr was 10, according to his defence team. Amnesty International strongly criticised the decision to subject Mr Khadr to a military tribunal. "To have held a 15-year-old boy in the harsh and lawless conditions of Guantánamo for five years has already been a travesty of justice - and to put him before an unfair 'military commission' trial simply adds to a disgraceful record in his case," said the Amnesty International UK director Kate Allen. Ms Allen said the US authorities should transfer his case to a civilian federal court on the US mainland. Toronto-born Mr Khadr faces a maximum penalty of life imprisonment. The Pentagon said Mr Khadr must be held accountable. "The defence department will continue to uphold the law and bring unlawful enemy combatants to justice through the military commissions process," it said. Mr Speer's widow and Mr Morris filed a civil lawsuit against Mr Khadr and his father. In February, a judge awarded them $102.6m (£51m). Dennis Edney, a Canadian lawyer for Mr Khadr's family, said the new tribunal system, which allows coerced and hearsay evidence, "provides Mr Khadr with almost no chance of proving his innocence. "The aim is to provide a showcase to justify the US administration decision to arrest Mr. Khadr and other men like him in the first place," Mr Edney told the Associated Press. Mr Khadr's attorneys urged Canada and the US to negotiate a "political resolution" of the case to spare Mr Khadr a guaranteed conviction by "one of the greatest show trials on earth". Several of Mr Khadr's family members have been accused of ties to Islamist extremists. His Egyptian-born father, Ahmad Said al-Khadr, was killed in Pakistan in 2003 alongside senior al-Qaida operatives and Canada is holding Mr Khadr's brother Abdullah on a US extradition warrant accusing him of supplying weapons to al-Qaida. Mr Khadr will be the second prisoner to face terror charges under new military tribunals after the US supreme court in June struck down the previous military tribunal system at Guantánamo as unconstitutional. Congress then passed a law establishing a new system, which is also being challenged. In March, the military tribunal at Guantánamo sentenced an Australian, David Hicks, to nine months in prison after he pleaded guilty to supporting terrorism - the first conviction at a US war crimes trial since the second world war. Under an agreement with the court, he will serve his sentence in an Australian prison, but must remain silent about any alleged abuse while in US custody. Prosecutors say they plan to charge as many as 80 of the 370 men held at Guantánamo on suspicion of links to al-Qaida or the Taliban. "We are increasingly concerned that with 80% of Guantánamo detainees now held in solitary confinement, there is mounting evidence that some are dangerously close to full-blown mental and physical breakdown," Amnesty said. |
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So? Anyone who picks up a gun/bomb/etc and tries to kill complete
strangers can be tried as an adult, so far as I'm concerned. Put me on his jury. Prove the kid is a terrorist. And I'll personally suggest the death penalty. After due process, of course. |
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Besides, this isn't history. Up until the 18th century, anyone older
than 12 was considered an adult, for all intents. |
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i saytry him and keep him in jail.thats what we need a 20 yr old pissed
off terrorist let loose.no thanks. |
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i think they should lower the accountability age
to 12 if they can do adult crime they can do adult time you got hard core criminals requiting kids cause they can get away wth a slap on the wrist but they get a taste of the adrenaline and the money you now have a lifetime criminal just a thought but hey what do i know |
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excerpt from poet's post
Put me on his jury. Prove the kid is a terrorist. And I'll personally suggest the death penalty. _________________________________________________ does that go for any terrorist?????????? did you know most living in the united states could be considered a terroist acoordin to the patriot act just a thought to ponder |
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Does the fact that Omar only 15 make the special forces sergent any less
dead. War is not a game where you get Kings X because of your tender age it is played for keeps and the stakes are high. If you play the game, expect the consequences. |
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right on garden and robin.this should apply to the gangbangers too.
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i did not see any restrictions on my statement
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if he would have killed one of my men, we wouldnt be having this
conversation.... would have killed him myself! if you throw grenades or shot at me, my men, or any US citizen i dont care care about you or your age, all i see is immenent danger or death and will fight back, shooting to kill-which is our way in combat. Never leave any doubt. hope he fries. doc |
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Jesus, he was a kid.... He was pressured by his culture to fight in a
worthless war. Just because he was in a war dosnt meen that he should be accounted as a criminal... So hey, how bout all our troups that killed people in WWII be counted as well.... Let them rot? Nahh, 5 years is enough for a kid to addmit his wrongs... my 2 cents. |
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the first mistake is in thinking that ther culture works like ours. 15
is old enough for them to marry and father children of their own. they are a voice at that age within their communities and whether we like it or not he decided to pick up a weapon and go to battle with US troops (which is never a winning decision) and hubey- i wonder how you would feelif the soldier that he killed was family to you. would five yers be enough for you-honestly? |
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American law first, as he has been detained bay America and accused of
killing an american. A boy as young as twelve CAN, under cirtain circumstances, be tried as an adult right here in the usa and punished as an adult for specific crimes, murder being one of them. so if a 12 year old can be tried as an adult here in the usa for murder, then a fifteen year old can be as well. And if he did ti in a terroristic or war style way, then hell yes it should fall under wartime statutes. Personally Gang members shuld be tried under terrorism as well. |
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well i think they should lower all crimes to the age of 12 being
accoutable for their actions i don't care if they are from the hamptons or the south side of chicago we need to put an end to child requitment |
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Doc your right, solve the problem, take no prisoners.
Kill em all & let ALLAH sort them out. That's how the ARAB'S live. I am beginning we should treat other countries by the laws of how they treat us. |
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I don't understand this too young thing. I can only speak for myself but
I knew as far back as I can remember that I wasn't supposed to kill somebody. He made his choice, let him deal with the consequences. |
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Huby,
Pressured by who, isn't he canadian? Lot of space between canada & saudi? |
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This article was copied and pasted from someones VIEW over in the UK. I
did read that correctly hey shadow????? Cant you write anything that is actually YOUR own material or is it just all hate filled propaganda against america Shadow??? YOU shadow are very very scary running rampant like a shotgun about to go off with copy and pasting from editorials or articles written in europe. Please this is almost amusing but it is getting tiring and this IS MY HONEST OPINION. |
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Hubey you want to talk about WW2? why dont you let us know all the
hunkey dorey hobbies and crafts alllllllllllll those jews sitting in concentration camps, used as LIVE research for brutal medical experiments, and of course HITLER being insane. Can you explain to ME just why MILLIONS OF JEWS WERE MURDERED?? Do you believe HITLER would have stopped in GERMANY and other countries he INVADED or would we have been invited to GERMANY for tea and GERMAN BREWHAS??? WORTHLESS WAR Hubey? Perhaps in your eyes but then again your just 18 and have not seen what some of us have. I eagerly await your response Hubey. |
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exactly right.
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