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and what makes it so bad. people really beleive rush is an honest guy. |
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and what makes it so bad. people really beleive rush is an honest guy. No kidding |
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and what makes it so bad. people really beleive rush is an honest guy. No kidding I just don't get it. But, many people on here listen to him regularly, it seems. |
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Was there a point in here somewhere?
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well, I won't pretend that there aren't those with conservative mindsets who hate people based on prejudices.. but it's poisoning the apple to lump all conservatives in with the kkk or whatever. you can't allow the exception to swallow the rule. yes, there ought to be a safety net for those who find themselves down on their luck but that need shouldn't permit the state to establish a welfare system that permits generations of people to suck off government teet. it sickens me when I go to the store and I see someone buying junk food like sodas, slim jims and potato chips with food stamps. especially when they just bought another hundred some dollars worth of other krap, like junk purses and Barack Obama memerobilia.. That should only go towards buying those staple foods like rice, beans, meat, eggs, milk, cheese, etc. things growing children need in order to grow up healthy and stong. Instead what we have is entire generations of poor people who have grown up under the government care.. that sickens me because all it does is further enslave the poor. the cycle needs to be broken and the way to break it is not to put another 50 million people on the government dole.. if that makes me a hate-monger or a racist, then I wear the moniker proudly. Well, considering that Clinton reformed welfare so that generations cannot sit on welfare anymore, I guess the prejudice have not caught up with the times on that one. Second of all, who are you to judge what another person eats? If they want to eat chips and soda all their lives it is none of our business. I would not do it myself because I want a quality of life at some level but I cannot judge another for what they eat. Foodstamps are designed to help those who have very little income. The foodstamp roles are growing at an alarming rate right now due to the layoffs, does that make those people bad? |
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and what makes it so bad. people really beleive rush is an honest guy. No kidding I just don't get it. But, many people on here listen to him regularly, it seems. I think they are fooled by his fast talk and his quick comebacks that he is educated and intelligent. It is a act and a bad one. He has no education. The only thing he was blessed with was a forked tongue. |
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Well, considering that Clinton reformed welfare so that generations cannot sit on welfare anymore, I guess the prejudice have not caught up with the times on that one.
Second of all, who are you to judge what another person eats? If they want to eat chips and soda all their lives it is none of our business. I would not do it myself because I want a quality of life at some level but I cannot judge another for what they eat. Foodstamps are designed to help those who have very little income. The foodstamp roles are growing at an alarming rate right now due to the layoffs, does that make those people bad? it's none of my business what people choose to feed their kids if they pay for it with their own earnings but when the government (you and I) is paying for it, then there should be a say in it.. it's good enough for the WIC program.. it should be good enough for food stamps. Clinton signing some piece of legislation didn't magically mean that people started getting off welfare faster than they're getting on it. There are still people on welfare who's parents and grandparent were on welfare and whose children will be on welfare. Explain to me how that's right.. Being on welfare doesn't make someone bad, it makes them down on their luck.. but when people who aren't 'quite' poor enough to get on public assistance are eating like vietnam pow's while people on foodstamps are eating steak and drinking cocacola, I've got a serious problem with that and everyone should have a problem with it.. I'm not some heartless bastard. I feel for the poor and disabled andI have no problem whatsoever with aiding those that truely need it but I have little patience for people who feel the world owes them a living and go about figuring their way to making sure they get it, mainly because they get in the way of and take food from the mouths of the truely needy. and are unashamed of doing so. |
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Edited by
Dragoness
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Fri 01/30/09 03:24 PM
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Well, considering that Clinton reformed welfare so that generations cannot sit on welfare anymore, I guess the prejudice have not caught up with the times on that one.
Second of all, who are you to judge what another person eats? If they want to eat chips and soda all their lives it is none of our business. I would not do it myself because I want a quality of life at some level but I cannot judge another for what they eat. Foodstamps are designed to help those who have very little income. The foodstamp roles are growing at an alarming rate right now due to the layoffs, does that make those people bad? it's none of my business what people choose to feed their kids if they pay for it with their own earnings but when the government (you and I) is paying for it, then there should be a say in it.. it's good enough for the WIC program.. it should be good enough for food stamps. Clinton signing some piece of legislation didn't magically mean that people started getting off welfare faster than they're getting on it. There are still people on welfare who's parents and grandparent were on welfare and whose children will be on welfare. Explain to me how that's right.. Being on welfare doesn't make someone bad, it makes them down on their luck.. but when people who aren't 'quite' poor enough to get on public assistance are eating like vietnam pow's while people on foodstamps are eating steak and drinking cocacola, I've got a serious problem with that and everyone should have a problem with it.. I'm not some heartless bastard. I feel for the poor and disabled andI have no problem whatsoever with aiding those that truely need it but I have little patience for people who feel the world owes them a living and go about figuring their way to making sure they get it, mainly because they get in the way of and take food from the mouths of the truely needy. and are unashamed of doing so. As for the Clinton thing I helped reform the welfare system here in Colorado in the 90s after Clinton put it into effect so I know for a fact the welfare system does not allow people to sit on welfare without participating in a program to get them off of it and there is a lifetime limit of 5 years in effect now so you do not know what you are talking about. As for the welfare system in general, you speak as if you govern my money too. Stop it. I want my money to help people and I am not alone. I don't care what people buy with their foodstamps, that is their business. They are given the foodstamps because they need them so they can then do what they need to do with them. You have an issue with being in other folks business really really bad. The saying goes, clean up your own yard before you clean up others and don't clean theirs up with stipulations, do it out of the kindness of your heart. My opinion here of course. |
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I can tell we're at a philosophical impass here. I don't care what you do with your money. If you want to dump every penny you earn into funding a homeless shelter or drive through impoverished neighborhoods handing out envelopes full of cash, that's your business. you can't tell me it's my obligation to do the same. it's wrong to put a gun to my head or threaten me with imprisonment if I choose not to (IRS). that's my point. and forcing me to pay taxes to fund an evergrowing welfare state does exactly that.
an ever expanding welfare state that further ensures liberal control of the congress, the white house, and eventually the scotus is the endgame we're dealing with at the moment. Rahm Emmanuel is quoted as saying, and I'll paraphrase a little, never let a good crisis go to waste. It's an opportunity to pass things that you'd never otherwise get passed in your wildest dreams... it's not about helping the poor. Obama, Pelosi and co are out to ensure the consolidation of their own power. the more people they hand money out to, the better. they're buying an electorate with our money. and no matter what side of the political fence you stand, that ought to offend the hell out of you. if you say that the state of Colorado has worked towards trimming the welfare roles and getting people back working, that's great! I hope that's true. One down, 49 to go. But I have a very good friend who runs a CPS office here in Tx and she tells me that it's as bad now as it ever was in term of people staying on welfare and jobbing the system to get around the law. and she's about as liberal a person as I know. so thanks for telling me I don't know what I'm talking about. I actually do get information from outside the talk radio medium. |
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I can tell we're at a philosophical impass here. I don't care what you do with your money. If you want to dump every penny you earn into funding a homeless shelter or drive through impoverished neighborhoods handing out envelopes full of cash, that's your business. you can't tell me it's my obligation to do the same. it's wrong to put a gun to my head or threaten me with imprisonment if I choose not to (IRS). that's my point. and forcing me to pay taxes to fund an evergrowing welfare state does exactly that. an ever expanding welfare state that further ensures liberal control of the congress, the white house, and eventually the scotus is the endgame we're dealing with at the moment. Rahm Emmanuel is quoted as saying, and I'll paraphrase a little, never let a good crisis go to waste. It's an opportunity to pass things that you'd never otherwise get passed in your wildest dreams... it's not about helping the poor. Obama, Pelosi and co are out to ensure the consolidation of their own power. the more people they hand money out to, the better. they're buying an electorate with our money. and no matter what side of the political fence you stand, that ought to offend the hell out of you. if you say that the state of Colorado has worked towards trimming the welfare roles and getting people back working, that's great! I hope that's true. One down, 49 to go. But I have a very good friend who runs a CPS office here in Tx and she tells me that it's as bad now as it ever was in term of people staying on welfare and jobbing the system to get around the law. and she's about as liberal a person as I know. so thanks for telling me I don't know what I'm talking about. I actually do get information from outside the talk radio medium. Impasse maybe but you are basically trying to act as though all the taxes are your personal responsibility and they are not. Second, the welfare state has been revamped whether your friend tells you the truth or not. Thirdly, the part about the "control", well Bush used the same philosophy you stated or blamed on the "liberals" to start an illegal war in Iraq for his personal agenda and it is more expensive than welfare could hope to be on the system so "liberals" seem to not be so very fearful in that scenerio, huh? I do understand that the conservative extremists use fear to help their cause, but if you buy into it it is not very healthy. The great big move to "socialize or communize" this country has been a highly used and obviously effective way of getting support but it is not valid nor is it factual. Fearmongering is their favorite tool. |
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Rush Limbaugh
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is there really anyone who listens to drug addict rush. Not me. |
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Edited by
KerryO
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Fri 01/30/09 05:24 PM
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Actually, a number of people (millions and millions) do listen to Rush and do so on a regular basis. I am not a Rush fan per se because I see the guy as an entertainer first, a politico, second. What I find ironic about the entire saga of his addiction to pain-killers is just how much liberals seem to loathe him for having become addicted. Clearly, he's not the first guy (nor will he be the last) who got addicted to a drug that is, without question, massively addictive. That he broke the law in the process means that he should be held accountable. Fine, no worries, and no issues. But what is curious to me is the massive hypocrisy involved here. When former President Clinton committed sexual harassment of a White House Intern (in any other job, he'd have been fired on the spot) the hue and cry from the left was something like: "Who cares? Does it really have anything to do with his running the country? It's a private matter, and therefore, it should not be something he's beat up for." OK, so I pose the question---why wasn't Rush's case considered a private matter? Clinton took an oath. Rush did not Clinton's salary was tax payer funded Rush's is not I was one of the few "to the right" people during the Clinton saga that thought it was stupid to move to impeach. I thought it was a waste of time and that it would do no good. I felt pretty much the same way about Rush. It's not my business. There are thousands of left-wing hippie types out there who think drugs should all be made legal! Where were they when Rush's story broke? Why not use him as a figure to point to, in order to make a stronger case? The truth is, the outrage over Rush's addiction to Oxycontin is only an outrage because of the political views he holds. If Rush was a liberal, they same people who are ticked at him for being an addict, would have been ALL over the news talking about what a good guy he was and how people should leave his personal life alone. If the left had a talk radio figure that brought in 1/10th of the ratings that Rush brings in, they would have defended him/her to the nth degree. What makes this all so disgusting is not that Rush did drugs and got caught. It's not even that he got addicted to a powerful narcotic. It's that he's a conservative. That is why he's hated for this. Well Drew, he was the first to spread the love on this subject and from the looks of these quotes, he naturally doesn't want to eat his own dog food: " When you strip it all away, Jerry Garcia destroyed his life on drugs. And yet he's being honored, like some godlike figure. Our priorities are out of whack, folks." --Rush Limbaugh radio show (quoted in the L.A. Times, 8/20/95) There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods, which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up. What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too. ...We are becoming too tolerant as a society, folks, especially of crime, in too many parts of the country.... This country certainly appears to be tolerant, forgive and forget. I mean, you know as well as I do, you go out and commit the worst murder in the world and you just say you're sorry, people go, "Oh, OK. A little contrition."... People say, "I feel better. He said he's sorry for it." We're becoming too tolerant, folks. --Rush Limbaugh TV show (10/5/95) There's an old sci-fi time travel paradox story called 'Absolutely Inflexible' by Robert Silverberg, where a top cop is a hardliner against people coming back from the future. Trouble is, the top cop's life takes an unexpected and unfortunate turn and the only hope he has is to use the very device he's sent other people into exile for using. Trouble is, his future self didn't count on his past self's catching him and not recognizing or believing his quandry. Wanna lay odds on how the story went? :) -Kerry O. |
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Edited by
beeorganic
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Fri 01/30/09 05:28 PM
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It appears those against the recovering drug addict, blowhard, Rush Limbaugh are for/support the likes of "The Lion of the Left" and "unabashedly liberal", Bernie Ward (formerly of KGO 810 AM San Francisco) then.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Ward Uhmmmm... I really don't know how to say this, but in case some of you didn't know... the "unabashedly liberal" Bernie is currently on a 7+ year "vacation" for distribution of child pornography. Thanks, but I think I'll keep the recovering drug addict over the child pornography distributor. Moral relativism kinda sucks, eh? Speaking of former liberal talk show hosts, did Al Franken ever pay his back taxes? Is "Air America" still broadcasting? |
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well now that we are putting names out. lets not forget Larry Craig.. you remember Clinton is a naughty boy. lets don't forget Hagar. man of god. yeah right.
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Edited by
Winx
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Fri 01/30/09 05:50 PM
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" When you strip it all away, Jerry Garcia destroyed his life on drugs. And yet he's being honored, like some godlike figure. Our priorities are out of whack, folks." --Rush Limbaugh radio show (quoted in the L.A. Times, 8/20/95) There's nothing good about drug use. We know it. It destroys individuals. It destroys families. Drug use destroys societies. Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country. And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs. And the laws are good because we know what happens to people in societies and neighborhoods, which become consumed by them. And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up. What this says to me is that too many whites are getting away with drug use. Too many whites are getting away with drug sales. Too many whites are getting away with trafficking in this stuff. The answer to this disparity is not to start letting people out of jail because we're not putting others in jail who are breaking the law. The answer is to go out and find the ones who are getting away with it, convict them and send them up the river, too. ...We are becoming too tolerant as a society, folks, especially of crime, in too many parts of the country.... This country certainly appears to be tolerant, forgive and forget. I mean, you know as well as I do, you go out and commit the worst murder in the world and you just say you're sorry, people go, "Oh, OK. A little contrition."... People say, "I feel better. He said he's sorry for it." We're becoming too tolerant, folks. --Rush Limbaugh TV show (10/5/95) -Kerry O. That's why the drugs are an issue. |
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yes drugs are the issue. but any normal person. like you are me . would be in prison. for doctor shopping. since rush has money. he walks away clean. in my days of drugs. i have been high. but never 20 Oxycontin high.
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well, to you all, Congress is considering a type of gag on Rush. The equal time thing...lol..Obama will sign it so fast that his pen will smoke if it passes...require stations to carry an equal time of liberal talk shows to match conservative talk shows. Freedom of speech applies now only to liberals, they are terrified of someone else's ideas if they do not agree with theirs. Call it what you will, but liberals are the quickest to cry censorship, but the first to advocate it on ppl who do not toe their "company" line
If you don't like Rush, then don't listen. Kinda like if you don't like a movie, then don't go to watch it. Duhhhhh...what is so hard to fathom about that idea? Too difficult for your minds to grasp? |
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well congress can finally shout limbaugh's mouth. hooray. his statement. on lone from god. is the biggest joke i have every heard.
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Well, considering that Clinton reformed welfare so that generations cannot sit on welfare anymore, I guess the prejudice have not caught up with the times on that one.
Second of all, who are you to judge what another person eats? If they want to eat chips and soda all their lives it is none of our business. I would not do it myself because I want a quality of life at some level but I cannot judge another for what they eat. Foodstamps are designed to help those who have very little income. The foodstamp roles are growing at an alarming rate right now due to the layoffs, does that make those people bad? it's none of my business what people choose to feed their kids if they pay for it with their own earnings but when the government (you and I) is paying for it, then there should be a say in it.. it's good enough for the WIC program.. it should be good enough for food stamps. Clinton signing some piece of legislation didn't magically mean that people started getting off welfare faster than they're getting on it. There are still people on welfare who's parents and grandparent were on welfare and whose children will be on welfare. Explain to me how that's right.. Being on welfare doesn't make someone bad, it makes them down on their luck.. but when people who aren't 'quite' poor enough to get on public assistance are eating like vietnam pow's while people on foodstamps are eating steak and drinking cocacola, I've got a serious problem with that and everyone should have a problem with it.. I'm not some heartless bastard. I feel for the poor and disabled andI have no problem whatsoever with aiding those that truely need it but I have little patience for people who feel the world owes them a living and go about figuring their way to making sure they get it, mainly because they get in the way of and take food from the mouths of the truely needy. and are unashamed of doing so. You obviously aren't aware of the facts of the welfare program. There is a time limit on it now. I think it's 5 yrs. in my state. While the client is on the welfare, they must be in school, trying to find a job and then finding one. The amount of food stamps that are given to people doesn't even cover enough to feed a family for a week. |
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