Topic: Democratic Conferees Keep Timeline in Iraq War Spending Bill
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Tue 04/24/07 12:04 AM
WASHINGTON — President Bush is on a collision course with Democrats in
Congress, who late Monday agreed to send him a timeline for withdrawal
along with a $124.2 billion Iraq war emergency spending bill.

Before a standing room-only audience in the bowels of Capitol Hill,
House Appropriations Committee Chairman David Obey, D-Wis., announced
the end of a conference meeting between House and Senate lawmakers after
less than an hour. No formal vote was held on the legislation, an
indication the fate of the bill was already sealed before the members
arrived.

The emphasis of the legislation is on a timetable, specifically the
requirement that troops begin withdrawing by Oct. 1, 2007, with a goal,
though not a mandate, to withdraw all combat forces within the
subsequent six months. Troops could come out as early as this summer if
the Iraqi government does not enact political and security reforms.

"This agreement provides us a new direction that will show the Iraqis
that our committment is not endless. it sets us on a path with the best
chance of achieving success in Iraq," said Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash.,
who led the meeting in place of Sen. Robert Byrd, D-W.Va., who was under
the weather and unable to attend.
The bill also places restrictions on how the president can deploy troops
that lack sufficient training or have not spent at least one year at
home before rotating back into combat. The legislation includes an
additional 60-day reporting requirement on Gen. David Petraeus, the
commander of Multinational Forces in Iraq, to state how well Iraqis are
doing on meeting Bush administration benchmarks.

As for the additional spending labeled pork by the White House, some of
it has been removed from the bill. No money will go to farmers of
peanuts, sugar beets or spinach.

Only Democrats formally signed the compromise supplemental legislation.
Republicans called the troop withdrawal timetable an effort to undercut
the commander in chief.

"Any president would veto this bill and would have to veto this bill to
maintain the stability of the constitutional processes as far our
national government is concerned," said Sen. Ted Stevens, R-Alaska.

The end product of negotiations now heads to the House floor for a vote
Wednesday and then to the Senate Thursday before heading to President
Bush's desk for a promised veto. Bush, meeting with his national
security team on Monday, including Petraeus, called the legislation a
mistake because it sets up a date for defeat in Iraq.

"An artificial timetable of withdrawal would say to an enemy, just wait
them out; it would say to the Iraqis, don't do hard things necessary to
achieve our objectives; and it would be discouraging for our troops,"
Bush said.

The president added that despite a wave of violence last week, efforts
to reduce sectarian violence have begun to work.

The president said much the same last week in Grand Rapids, Mich. Today,
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid mocked him.

The White House transcript says the president made those remarks in the
State of Michigan. I believe he made them in the state of denial," Reid
said in a speech to an audience at the Woodrow Wilson International
Center for Scholars in Washington, D.C.

Reid called Bush the "odd man out" on Iraq and vowed to use Congress to
try to change what he said was Bush's "shoot first" diplomacy.

In a scathing speech seemingly aimed at shaming the president into
calling for a withdrawal, Reid said the Bush administration is in denial
about the war, incompetent in its conduct and unwilling to listen to
alternatives.

"What a shame that after five-and-a-half years, so many lost lives and
so much treasure depleted, President Bush hasn't budged from the
shoot-first, talk-never style that one national magazine described as
'cowboy diplomacy' — that got us into this mess in the first place,"
Reid told

"The president has dug in his heels in this fight, but it doesn't have
to be that way. ... Democrats are reaching out to Republicans in
Congress in hopes of bipartisan cooperation. Only the president is the
odd man out, and he is making the task even harder by demanding absolute
fidelity from his party," Reid continued.

White House spokeswoman Dana Perino shot back, saying Reid's "new"
approach seems a little stale.

"Senator Reid seems to be in a state of confusion," Perino said. "He
said the president 'ignored' the Iraq Study Group by sending more troops
to secure Baghdad when the Iraq Study Group report said it would support
this step. Senator Reid also called for a regional conference when one
is already set to begin in days, called for emphasizing political
reconciliation in Iraq when the Senate's own bill cuts $243 million
vital for political reconciliation, and said his meetings with the
president are unproductive despite characterizing his discussion with
the president last Wednesday as a 'good exchange' minutes after the
meeting concluded."

While some Republicans have withered under the continued support, they
are not breaking ranks to help override a presidential veto.

Bush has said that he is willing to work with Congress, but not let
lawmakers micro-manage the war. Reid said Bush is not interested in
listening to advice from the opposition party.

"Instead of sending us back to square one with a veto, some tough talk
and nothing more, let him come to the table in the spirit of
bipartisanship that Americans demand and deserve," Reid said.

It is a near certainty when the vetoed bill returns from the White
House, Democrats will have to remove the timeline. One Democratic Senate
Appropriations Committee member told FOX News that is exactly what will
happen.

"When it comes back, the dates come out," said Sen Ben Nelson, D-Neb.,
who has always indicated his discomfort with "dates certain."

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Tue 04/24/07 12:07 AM
Considering the crap that the democrats are trying to pull on this one,
I've gotta side with Bush on this one.


And now, I feel, I need to cleanse myself. Saying that made me feel
dirty.

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Tue 04/24/07 09:46 AM
Pal O' tic's at its best.

Nice thing about forked tounges is being able to put tounge in both
cheeks at the same time.

Confused... Or using the media? How many people will see what was said
on TV only and therefore miss the full impact.