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Topic: If Bushies Escape Justice, What's Left for the US?
nogames39's photo
Thu 01/22/09 10:40 PM


BS?

Yes, investigation is not prosecution. Madison will not shut up about prosecution. I still say that he needs to play it across the board if he wants to lay that card.

I never suggested Bush did nothing wrong. I said we have no idea what he went on. Intel can be wrong and he may have naively entered the war. I merely presented the other side which is completely plausible.

Clinton was not prosecuted for the same reason Bush will not be, regardless of what comes up. It's a moving ahead thing by the successor. There is no evidence (yet) of any wrongdoing whereas with Clinton, there was video of him being caught. The OP loves to state that the Bush admin has made a mockery of our justice system, but it's in fact 8 years late on that statement.


So, then we agree that without presuming any wrongdoing, and accepting that to an American anyone is innocent until proven guilty, we nevertheless shall move to open the archives and welcome the investigation.

Be it Bush or Clinton, the justice must be all the same as it is to Joe Six Pack.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 01/22/09 10:43 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 01/22/09 10:44 PM



BS?

Yes, investigation is not prosecution. Madison will not shut up about prosecution. I still say that he needs to play it across the board if he wants to lay that card.

I never suggested Bush did nothing wrong. I said we have no idea what he went on. Intel can be wrong and he may have naively entered the war. I merely presented the other side which is completely plausible.

Clinton was not prosecuted for the same reason Bush will not be, regardless of what comes up. It's a moving ahead thing by the successor. There is no evidence (yet) of any wrongdoing whereas with Clinton, there was video of him being caught. The OP loves to state that the Bush admin has made a mockery of our justice system, but it's in fact 8 years late on that statement.


So, then we agree that without presuming any wrongdoing, and accepting that to an American anyone is innocent until proven guilty, we nevertheless shall move to open the archives and welcome the investigation.

Be it Bush or Clinton, the justice must be all the same as it is to Joe Six Pack.


I agree!
Let the heads roll.
We must show the world and all our future leader want-a-bes, that
America IS governed by the people, for the people.
And that no one is above the laws or the Constitution...

AndrewAV's photo
Thu 01/22/09 10:43 PM



BS?

Yes, investigation is not prosecution. Madison will not shut up about prosecution. I still say that he needs to play it across the board if he wants to lay that card.

I never suggested Bush did nothing wrong. I said we have no idea what he went on. Intel can be wrong and he may have naively entered the war. I merely presented the other side which is completely plausible.

Clinton was not prosecuted for the same reason Bush will not be, regardless of what comes up. It's a moving ahead thing by the successor. There is no evidence (yet) of any wrongdoing whereas with Clinton, there was video of him being caught. The OP loves to state that the Bush admin has made a mockery of our justice system, but it's in fact 8 years late on that statement.


So, then we agree that without presuming any wrongdoing, and accepting that to an American anyone is innocent until proven guilty, we nevertheless shall move to open the archives and welcome the investigation.

Be it Bush or Clinton, the justice must be all the same as it is to Joe Six Pack.


in a nutshell. Just like I said, many around here tend to forget that whole innocent until proven guilty thing when it's convenient.

nogames39's photo
Thu 01/22/09 10:47 PM
God Bless America

Fanta46's photo
Thu 01/22/09 10:51 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Thu 01/22/09 10:52 PM




BS?

Yes, investigation is not prosecution. Madison will not shut up about prosecution. I still say that he needs to play it across the board if he wants to lay that card.

I never suggested Bush did nothing wrong. I said we have no idea what he went on. Intel can be wrong and he may have naively entered the war. I merely presented the other side which is completely plausible.

Clinton was not prosecuted for the same reason Bush will not be, regardless of what comes up. It's a moving ahead thing by the successor. There is no evidence (yet) of any wrongdoing whereas with Clinton, there was video of him being caught. The OP loves to state that the Bush admin has made a mockery of our justice system, but it's in fact 8 years late on that statement.


So, then we agree that without presuming any wrongdoing, and accepting that to an American anyone is innocent until proven guilty, we nevertheless shall move to open the archives and welcome the investigation.

Be it Bush or Clinton, the justice must be all the same as it is to Joe Six Pack.


in a nutshell. Just like I said, many around here tend to forget that whole innocent until proven guilty thing when it's convenient.


Really?
Is getting caught practicing infidelity the same level of criminality as what the Bush Administration has done?
I think not!

And the most dangerous thing about the Bush Administrations wrongs are that they were more than likely conspired.
Premeditated.......
Intentional....

Committed on the world stage in our name.

Fanta46's photo
Thu 01/22/09 10:54 PM
And committed by COWARDS!!!

AndrewAV's photo
Fri 01/23/09 07:20 PM





BS?

Yes, investigation is not prosecution. Madison will not shut up about prosecution. I still say that he needs to play it across the board if he wants to lay that card.

I never suggested Bush did nothing wrong. I said we have no idea what he went on. Intel can be wrong and he may have naively entered the war. I merely presented the other side which is completely plausible.

Clinton was not prosecuted for the same reason Bush will not be, regardless of what comes up. It's a moving ahead thing by the successor. There is no evidence (yet) of any wrongdoing whereas with Clinton, there was video of him being caught. The OP loves to state that the Bush admin has made a mockery of our justice system, but it's in fact 8 years late on that statement.


So, then we agree that without presuming any wrongdoing, and accepting that to an American anyone is innocent until proven guilty, we nevertheless shall move to open the archives and welcome the investigation.

Be it Bush or Clinton, the justice must be all the same as it is to Joe Six Pack.


in a nutshell. Just like I said, many around here tend to forget that whole innocent until proven guilty thing when it's convenient.


Really?
Is getting caught practicing infidelity the same level of criminality as what the Bush Administration has done?
I think not!

And the most dangerous thing about the Bush Administrations wrongs are that they were more than likely conspired.
Premeditated.......
Intentional....

Committed on the world stage in our name.


You know, you should read the entire post before you spout off.

BJ = not a crime

Lying to a Grand Jury = in fact, a crime.

Stop with the bias of how bad YOU think it is. Wrong is wrong. One worse wrong does not make the other ok.

And one more time, if you can come up with proof (real proof that would be admissible in court and not some left wing website with accusations) that Bush acted with full knowledge, I'm all ears. Until then, sit down and shut up.

Fanta46's photo
Sat 01/24/09 04:46 PM
See here.
This is the kind of disrespect that started yesterday bull...drinker

madisonman's photo
Sat 01/24/09 05:05 PM






BS?

Yes, investigation is not prosecution. Madison will not shut up about prosecution. I still say that he needs to play it across the board if he wants to lay that card.

I never suggested Bush did nothing wrong. I said we have no idea what he went on. Intel can be wrong and he may have naively entered the war. I merely presented the other side which is completely plausible.

Clinton was not prosecuted for the same reason Bush will not be, regardless of what comes up. It's a moving ahead thing by the successor. There is no evidence (yet) of any wrongdoing whereas with Clinton, there was video of him being caught. The OP loves to state that the Bush admin has made a mockery of our justice system, but it's in fact 8 years late on that statement.


So, then we agree that without presuming any wrongdoing, and accepting that to an American anyone is innocent until proven guilty, we nevertheless shall move to open the archives and welcome the investigation.

Be it Bush or Clinton, the justice must be all the same as it is to Joe Six Pack.


in a nutshell. Just like I said, many around here tend to forget that whole innocent until proven guilty thing when it's convenient.


Really?
Is getting caught practicing infidelity the same level of criminality as what the Bush Administration has done?
I think not!

And the most dangerous thing about the Bush Administrations wrongs are that they were more than likely conspired.
Premeditated.......
Intentional....

Committed on the world stage in our name.


You know, you should read the entire post before you spout off.

BJ = not a crime

Lying to a Grand Jury = in fact, a crime.

Stop with the bias of how bad YOU think it is. Wrong is wrong. One worse wrong does not make the other ok.

And one more time, if you can come up with proof (real proof that would be admissible in court and not some left wing website with accusations) that Bush acted with full knowledge, I'm all ears. Until then, sit down and shut up.
The White House, having initially blocked National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice from testifying before the 9/11 Commission, finally reversed itself in April 2004.

In a dramatic moment, under the stares of the on-looking 9/11 families, Rice made a startling revelation.
See her live admit in front of congress....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjSoKy7jNUQ&feature=related

markecephus's photo
Sat 01/24/09 06:26 PM

Absolutely, no attacking/insulting others. Please respect others rights, to their opinions, and please follow the forum rules.

Thank you for your cooperation,

Mark

Fanta46's photo
Sat 01/24/09 06:36 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 01/24/09 06:37 PM

]The White House, having initially blocked National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice from testifying before the 9/11 Commission, finally reversed itself in April 2004.

In a dramatic moment, under the stares of the on-looking 9/11 families, Rice made a startling revelation.
See her live admit in front of congress....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjSoKy7jNUQ&feature=related



I remember that! IMO that things like this will play an important role in the future.drinker

madisonman's photo
Sat 01/24/09 06:39 PM


]The White House, having initially blocked National Security Adviser Condoleezza Rice from testifying before the 9/11 Commission, finally reversed itself in April 2004.

In a dramatic moment, under the stares of the on-looking 9/11 families, Rice made a startling revelation.
See her live admit in front of congress....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjSoKy7jNUQ&feature=related



I remember that! IMO that things like this will play an important role in the future.drinker
I think future generations of americans will wonder why our generation with this overwhelming evidence sheepishly just (moved on)and allowed our country to be looted and bankrupted

Fanta46's photo
Sat 01/24/09 06:45 PM
Hopefully they wont have to do that!drinker

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Sat 01/24/09 07:05 PM
The problem with prosecuting the Bush administration is that congress approved of his actions, including democrats in congress.

The Constitution requires that congress declare war, and that the president executes the war. The reasons for war are not important from a constitutional perspective.

Since we know that congress had access to the same intelligence that Bush had when making the decision to declare war, we know that the war was lawful.

If you want to argue that democrats in congress intentionally voted for a war that was immoral, then go complain to the democrats in congress that did so, and oppose them when they are running for office.

madisonman's photo
Sat 01/24/09 07:26 PM

The problem with prosecuting the Bush administration is that congress approved of his actions, including democrats in congress.

The Constitution requires that congress declare war, and that the president executes the war. The reasons for war are not important from a constitutional perspective.

Since we know that congress had access to the same intelligence that Bush had when making the decision to declare war, we know that the war was lawful.

If you want to argue that democrats in congress intentionally voted for a war that was immoral, then go complain to the democrats in congress that did so, and oppose them when they are running for office.
The dems were handed the lies promoted by bush and the war hawks the only thing they are guilty of is being duped

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Sun 01/25/09 06:26 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sun 01/25/09 06:27 AM
Uh...we still have yet to get rid of the carpetbagging Clintons & all the thugs running the DNC.

I hope OBAMA & his wife take turns sleeping. I wouldn't turn my back on any of them if I were him. Not that OBAMA should be held in any higher regard because he's just a puppet anyway. A token prez.

Quikstepper's photo
Sun 01/25/09 06:13 PM

The problem with prosecuting the Bush administration is that congress approved of his actions, including democrats in congress.

The Constitution requires that congress declare war, and that the president executes the war. The reasons for war are not important from a constitutional perspective.

Since we know that congress had access to the same intelligence that Bush had when making the decision to declare war, we know that the war was lawful.

If you want to argue that democrats in congress intentionally voted for a war that was immoral, then go complain to the democrats in congress that did so, and oppose them when they are running for office.



LOL... so much for all the lies told on these boards. Thanks for squaring it away.

As I said... I wonder where the buck is going to stop in the OBAMA administration? No matter...the idiots will elect DEMS even if one killed in broad daylight. That's how pathetic they are to want to be right. Sad...very sad.

I'll stick with real justice & not the LIB hypocritical brand.

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