NEW YORK--That's it? Bush moves back to Texas to dote on his presidential library--while drawing a $197,000 pension? Cheney goes back to Wyoming to fish and work on his memoirs? After committing crimes so numerous and monstrous that bookshelves are already groaning under their weight, the cabal of illegitimate coup leaders who destroyed the U.S. get to tiptoe out of the rubble and go home to a comfortable retirement?

Earlier this week a senior Pentagon prosecutor openly admitted what has long been known: torture, the lowest and most criminal act any society can sanction, is official U.S. policy. "His treatment met the legal definition of torture," Judge Susan Crawford told The Washington Post about the alleged "20th hijacker" on 9/11, now being held at Gitmo. The man was so brutalized, Crawford decided, that he could not be charged in court. The same is true of many of those being held at the Guantánamo concentration camp.

None of the Bush Administration officials responsible has faced the slightest inconvenience as the result of his actions.

Donald Rumsfeld, the beast who promoted, botched and joked about a war that has killed more than a million innocent Iraqis, spent the last year as a "distinguished visiting fellow" at Stanford, cogitating about "issues pertaining to ideology and terror."

John Yoo, the Justice Department hack who wrote the memos that authorized U.S. military and intelligence personnel to torture prisoners of war, is enjoying the cozy ambiance of academe as a UC Berkeley law professor.

Colin Powell, whose 2003 lie to the U.N. ("there can be no doubt that Saddam Hussein has biological weapons and the capability to rapidly produce more, many more") convinced Americans who were still on the fence to support the invasion of Iraq--a misbegotten project that drove the last nail in the coffin of the U.S. economy--wiles away his days attending the meetings of various corporate boards.

If you were expecting Barack Obama to deliver justice, forget it. "I don't believe that anybody is above the law. On the other hand, I also have a belief that we need to look forward as opposed to looking backwards," Obama said recently. "Look forward" is Beltwayese for "no accountability."

Obama went on to assure the men and women who tortured innocent detainees to death that no one will ever bother them about their war crimes. "And part of my job is to make sure that for example at the CIA, you've got extraordinarily talented people who are working very hard to keep Americans safe. I don't want them to suddenly feel like they've got to spend all their time looking over their shoulders and lawyering up."

Is this what we've come to? Have Americans become so morally depraved that we condone this level of lawlessness? Have we become so weak and helpless in the face of unconscionable violations of the Bill of Rights--torture, government spies listening to our phone calls, starting wars against countries that never hurt us, looting the treasury--that we just "look forward"?

So much for the land of the free and the brave. See you around, nation of laws.

The meltdown at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant, historians say, brought down the Soviet government by exposing its incompetence and powerlessness. Poor design and disaster response turned the accident into a disaster. The regime's inability to contain the problem and successfully cover it up highlighted its impotence.

"The Chernobyl catastrophe," wrote Philip Taubman in The New York Times in 1996, "was a manifestation of the political, moral and technological rot that was metastasizing in the Soviet system and would soon kill it." People stopped believing in the USSR. Then they stopped fearing it.

Should the United States collapse, historians will likely point to two events: 9/11 and Katrina. 9/11 proved the U.S. was a paper tiger, an aggressive power that can blow up the world with nuclear weapons yet can't scramble a single fighter jet to stop 19 idiots with boxcutters. The inept response to the hurricane that destroyed New Orleans was incompetence personified. The American people don't think the U.S. government cares about them. Even worse, they doubt the government could help them if it wanted to.

With the American government exposed as stupid and weak, all that remains is the American ideal: the 232-year-old democratic experiment that began with the idea that we are all equal under the law and that all human beings enjoy a set of inherent, inalienable rights--even "enemy combatants" and illegal immigrants.

If we fail to hold the elites who seized the presidency in a 2000 judicial coup d'état to account, if we say torture is no big deal, if we don't imprison men who lied and conspired to murder more than one million Iraqis and Afghans and Americans and countless others, if we let these individuals golf and fish and deliver lectures to young people as if they have done nothing wrong, then such horrors will happen again and again. I want would-be torturers to "look over their shoulders." I want them to second-guess themselves.

Even worse than that: If we don't prosecute Bush and Cheney and Wolfowitz and Rumsfeld and Yoo and Rice and Powell and scores of other top Bush officials who took part in the destruction of fundamental American values, there will be nothing--not even an idea--left of the United States.
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About author
Ted Rall is the author of the new book "Silk Road to Ruin: Is Central Asia the New Middle East?," an in-depth prose and graphic novel analysis of America's next big foreign policy challenge.

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even when it's finally over and the whole world has moved on you still can't let it go

just can't give up the hate?

Not hate its justice and like most of america I would like to see it served.

WHY DONT YOU INVESTIGATE ACORN AND THE ILLEGAL TIES OBAMA HAS TO THEM?DOES VOTER FRAUD COUNT AS A PROSCUTABLE OFFENSE?OR HIS INVOLVMENT IN THE ILLINOIS GOVERNOR SCANDAL THAT HIS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CAUGHT LIEING ABOUT WHEN AND WHERE. BEFORE WAISTING GOOD MONEY TRYING TO DEMEAN A HONEST MAN WHO KEPT YOU SAFE FOR 8 YRS.PEOPLE LIKE THE ONE WHO WROTE THIS ARE THE MOST VIAL DISCUSTING INGRATES AMERICA HAS TO OFFER.SO YOU HATE PRESIDENT BUSH.GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

scroll up its called justice and we have allready gone over the acorn thing in another thread. Or feel free to inform us all about it with your own thread

I think you're wrong. I think most of america would like to move on.

feel free to move on if you like or even leave the thread and move to another.

THE FAR LEFT RADICLE HATEFUL CANCER ON AMERICA DOES NOT QUITE EQUAL MOST PEOLPE IN AMERICA SO PLEASE STOP SPEAKING FOR THE REST OF AMERICA YOU ARE NOT MOST

Im still waiting for your informative thread about voter fraud and acorn

feel free to...

nevermind

Exactly. Just "move on, man". What about justice?

No worries. I have moved on and am well aware that I can move to another thread, thank you.

Since Obama considers himself a constitutional law expert he more than most people should understand that if the Bush Administration isn't held responsible for their crimes our legal system is nothing more than a bad joke. I suspected it was a joke anyway, but thats besides the point. He knows what he needs to do and if he doesn't he is no better than they are.

aint she the best?

I'm still trying to get over the "honest" man line...

Do you know the exact intelligence given to Bush when he made the calls?

No, you don't. So please stop with this crap and let it go until there is actual proof of wrongdoing. Intel can be wrong and mistakes can be made.

By the way, since Obama is perpetuating the wars, does that make him an accessory? Maybe we should prosecute him too.


Finally, as usual, you are again showing your ignorance on how our country runs. Bush could not do this all by himself as the constitution forbids it. If the war should have been stopped, the Dems should have stopped it, but they did not. Are all them accessories to the crime as well since they perpetuated the crime?

So if you want to prosecute for this, prosecute everyone, not just the ones you don't like. Obama, all the dems that voted yes, everyone.

EDIT: also, if you prosecute for this, I want Clinton in jail for perjury. BJs are not a crime. Lying to a Grand Jury is.

B.S. Investigation is not the same as prosecution. It just might show that there was nothing wrong with Bush's conduct.

He has nothing to be afraid of if he hasn't done anything wrong as you seem to suggest.

But, yes, Clinton did commit perjury. How come he is not prosecuted?

BS?

Yes, investigation is not prosecution. Madison will not shut up about prosecution. I still say that he needs to play it across the board if he wants to lay that card.

I never suggested Bush did nothing wrong. I said we have no idea what he went on. Intel can be wrong and he may have naively entered the war. I merely presented the other side which is completely plausible.

Clinton was not prosecuted for the same reason Bush will not be, regardless of what comes up. It's a moving ahead thing by the successor. There is no evidence (yet) of any wrongdoing whereas with Clinton, there was video of him being caught. The OP loves to state that the Bush admin has made a mockery of our justice system, but it's in fact 8 years late on that statement.

We must show the world and our youth that those we elect to office will be prosecuted. For the International crimes and the Constitutional crimes they commit, or our hands are just as dirty as theirs, and our moral leadership in the world will never be taken as trustworthy again.
The Bushies can not get away with USEING America..
If they do our name is Mud....

I did not serve for Mud...