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spendidy Ummm... I believe I just admitted to doing the same. How can that not occur as taking responsibility? What else would satisfy your apparent desire to prove me wrong? spendidy all I request is that you perhaps remember this moment the next time you feel the desire to start condemning Yes... I will. I hope that admitting my own error will not minimize your own willingness to look at your own approach. Splendidy my approach got "MorningSong to recant part of her post and then when others applied the heat she recanted the entire post and then place the blame on some other author saiding that she didn't read it properly thereby spreading falsehoods... I would say that my approach worked very well....since I got her to admit her wrongdoings...it was a Perry Mason moment... like I said you are still trying to condemn...apparently you learned nothing |
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Now you just have to work on your approach with the women LOL
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Now you just have to work on your approach with the women LOL haven't you ever heard of makeup sex |
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Today, my friends, I must be very blunt. If you do not have Jesus in your heart, you cannot be saved! Without Jesus, there is no Salvation. Period. I'm sorry! So the object here is to irritate us into salvation? That just doesn't work for me. 
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spendidy Ummm... I believe I just admitted to doing the same. How can that not occur as taking responsibility? What else would satisfy your apparent desire to prove me wrong? spendidy all I request is that you perhaps remember this moment the next time you feel the desire to start condemning Yes... I will. I hope that admitting my own error will not minimize your own willingness to look at your own approach. Splendidy my approach got "MorningSong to recant part of her post and then when others applied the heat she recanted the entire post and then place the blame on some other author saiding that she didn't read it properly thereby spreading falsehoods... I would say that my approach worked very well....since I got her to admit her wrongdoings...it was a Perry Mason moment... like I said you are still trying to condemn...apparently you learned nothing Funches Has Spoken. 
I don't need to point the finger at you anymore, dear boy. Your contribution is always valid... Regardless of your approach. 
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Remembered no more? (I bet he gives them a shot of the date rape drug that steals your memories.) I like my memories. I don't want them taken away. Finally... The REAL purpose for Rohypnol, revealed! Halle-Freakin'-lujah! 
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Funches Has Spoken.
I don't need to point the finger at you anymore, dear boy. Your contribution is always valid... Regardless of your approach.
splendidy you already admitted to being wrong ...so lick your wounds and let it go |
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Krimsa....when we accept Jesus into our hearts as Our Saviour, Jesus forgives us and then washes away ALL our sins.... and they are remembered no more. 
That's interesting, MorningSong... Doesn't it seem that those we know who suffer the greatest are those plagued by their own past memories? Much of these painful memories are of how one has been wronged by circumstances and people outside of self. Less admitted, inescapable memories include one's own "wrong" doings and the hurt they've caused others. One who hasn't yet been able to fully acknowledge how one's actions have harmed others seems even more caught in a web of negativity... Hiding out and placing blame outside of self. Truly, that is Hell on Earth and certainly explains the concept of sin against true self (or god). If you see a connection to Jesus as being the ONLY way anyone can wash away these "sins", this misery, and there are millions of people on this planet who don't feel any connection to the Christian belief, how can it be that Jesus is the only way? There has GOT to be a Universal way that doesn't exclude a single individual... A way that doesn't dictate all follow only one Religious path or any Religion, for that matter. This kind of demand only seems to perpetuate further divide. Isn't further divide the last thing we need for Humanity? Splendidlife....accepting Jesus as Saviour, is not about joining some Religion. Neither is becoming a Christian. Christianity never was meant to be about religion.... Christianity is a Lifestyle.... although people do rank christianity as a religion. But it is not. When You Join Jesus, you are not joining some religion. Jesus is the Saviour... for the whole world. God is not about Religion. But Relationship. Jesus is the WAY for Man to be brought back into Relationship with God. Jesus is for the whole wide world. When you become a Christian , you join Jesus...not a religion. Sure, you still go to church to fellowship and learn.....cause it is good to not forsake the assembly of beleivers... but that church building is NOT the church....believers are the church. Again.... when one gets saved, one joins Jesus..not some religion.
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Edited by
splendidlife
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Fri 01/16/09 06:56 PM
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Krimsa....when we accept Jesus into our hearts as Our Saviour, Jesus forgives us and then washes away ALL our sins.... and they are remembered no more.
That's interesting, MorningSong... Doesn't it seem that those we know who suffer the greatest are those plagued by their own past memories? Much of these painful memories are of how one has been wronged by circumstances and people outside of self. Less admitted, inescapable memories include one's own "wrong" doings and the hurt they've caused others. One who hasn't yet been able to fully acknowledge how one's actions have harmed others seems even more caught in a web of negativity... Hiding out and placing blame outside of self. Truly, that is Hell on Earth and certainly explains the concept of sin against true self (or god). If you see a connection to Jesus as being the ONLY way anyone can wash away these "sins", this misery, and there are millions of people on this planet who don't feel any connection to the Christian belief, how can it be that Jesus is the only way? There has GOT to be a Universal way that doesn't exclude a single individual... A way that doesn't dictate all follow only one Religious path or any Religion, for that matter. This kind of demand only seems to perpetuate further divide. Isn't further divide the last thing we need for Humanity? Splendidlife....accepting Jesus as Saviour, is not about joining some Religion. Neither is becoming a Christian. Christianity never was meant to be about religion.... Christianity is a Lifestyle.... although people do rank christianity as a religion. But it is not. When You Join Jesus, you are not joining some religion. Jesus is the Saviour... for the whole world. God is not about Religion. But Relationship. Jesus is the WAY for Man to be brought back into Relationship with God. Jesus is for the whole wide world. When you become a Christian , you join Jesus...not a religion. Sure, you still go to church to fellowship and learn.....cause it is good to not forsake the assembly of beleivers... but that church building is NOT the church....believers are the church. Again.... when one gets saved, one joins Jesus..not some religion.
What about the millions of people who haven't been exposed to the teachings of Jesus? Do you really believe there is no "salvation" for them simply because they hadn't access to the same as you and hadn't chosen the same path as you?? Could it be that Jesus represented a way that is universal to every human being? Could it be that his message was less about following him and more about the personal journey we all must travel throughout our lifetimes? Since you are completely married to your beliefs, of course I don't expect you to say yes. But, why not even consider it? Would that somehow diminish your ticket into Heaven? I'm probably just completely naive to think you'd wish to even consider these contrasting ideas. |
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Fri 01/16/09 07:19 PM
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Krimsa....when we accept Jesus into our hearts as Our Saviour, Jesus forgives us and then washes away ALL our sins.... and they are remembered no more.
That's interesting, MorningSong... Doesn't it seem that those we know who suffer the greatest are those plagued by their own past memories? Much of these painful memories are of how one has been wronged by circumstances and people outside of self. Less admitted, inescapable memories include one's own "wrong" doings and the hurt they've caused others. One who hasn't yet been able to fully acknowledge how one's actions have harmed others seems even more caught in a web of negativity... Hiding out and placing blame outside of self. Truly, that is Hell on Earth and certainly explains the concept of sin against true self (or god). If you see a connection to Jesus as being the ONLY way anyone can wash away these "sins", this misery, and there are millions of people on this planet who don't feel any connection to the Christian belief, how can it be that Jesus is the only way? There has GOT to be a Universal way that doesn't exclude a single individual... A way that doesn't dictate all follow only one Religious path or any Religion, for that matter. This kind of demand only seems to perpetuate further divide. Isn't further divide the last thing we need for Humanity? Splendidlife....accepting Jesus as Saviour, is not about joining some Religion. Neither is becoming a Christian. Christianity never was meant to be about religion.... Christianity is a Lifestyle.... although people do rank christianity as a religion. But it is not. When You Join Jesus, you are not joining some religion. Jesus is the Saviour... for the whole world. God is not about Religion. But Relationship. Jesus is the WAY for Man to be brought back into Relationship with God. Jesus is for the whole wide world. When you become a Christian , you join Jesus...not a religion. Sure, you still go to church to fellowship and learn.....cause it is good to not forsake the assembly of beleivers... but that church building is NOT the church....believers are the church. Again.... when one gets saved, one joins Jesus..not some religion.
What about the millions of people who haven't been raised with the teachings of Jesus? Do you really believe there is no "salvation" for them simply because they hadn't access to the way of Jesus?? Could it be that Jesus represented a way that is universal to every human being (with or without Jesus)? Splendidlife....I believe God is able to reach every man....
and make Himself known to every man..... in ways, far greater than man can ever imagine. God's ways are Higher than our ways. Do I think the millions of peope of other faiths are gonna perish? No....... cause God makes Himself known to all..... and will continue to make Himself known to all. One way God reaches and makes Himself known to others, is thru believers sharing the gospel , like we have been, and are doing right now. Also.....Thanks to sattelite, the gospel right now, is going into far away places like India, China, and into every nation of the world. Splendidlife....God has planted a desire in every man's heart to know God. Again....God is more than able to make Himself known to all mankind. Even if we fully don't understand how. God's ways are higher than ours. God created us all..and Loves us all........and would not have one to perish. There are hungry hearts out there Splendidlife..who are sick of religion. They are finally finding that the empty hole in their souls.... can only be closed, by accepting Jesus as their Saviour......the One sent for all mankind. When they accept Jesus, they find that Jesus is able to do ..... what no Religion could EVER do......and will NEVER be able to do. Jesus is the Answer for the Whole Wide World today.... no one else can do what Jesus can do. No One. Only Jesus can bring us back into relationship with Abba Father...... and bring us all back home where we belong...with God... where God meant for his Creation to be all along.
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Krimsa....when we accept Jesus into our hearts as Our Saviour, Jesus forgives us and then washes away ALL our sins.... and they are remembered no more.
That's interesting, MorningSong... Doesn't it seem that those we know who suffer the greatest are those plagued by their own past memories? Much of these painful memories are of how one has been wronged by circumstances and people outside of self. Less admitted, inescapable memories include one's own "wrong" doings and the hurt they've caused others. One who hasn't yet been able to fully acknowledge how one's actions have harmed others seems even more caught in a web of negativity... Hiding out and placing blame outside of self. Truly, that is Hell on Earth and certainly explains the concept of sin against true self (or god). If you see a connection to Jesus as being the ONLY way anyone can wash away these "sins", this misery, and there are millions of people on this planet who don't feel any connection to the Christian belief, how can it be that Jesus is the only way? There has GOT to be a Universal way that doesn't exclude a single individual... A way that doesn't dictate all follow only one Religious path or any Religion, for that matter. This kind of demand only seems to perpetuate further divide. Isn't further divide the last thing we need for Humanity? Splendidlife....accepting Jesus as Saviour, is not about joining some Religion. Neither is becoming a Christian. Christianity never was meant to be about religion.... Christianity is a Lifestyle.... although people do rank christianity as a religion. But it is not. When You Join Jesus, you are not joining some religion. Jesus is the Saviour... for the whole world. God is not about Religion. But Relationship. Jesus is the WAY for Man to be brought back into Relationship with God. Jesus is for the whole wide world. When you become a Christian , you join Jesus...not a religion. Sure, you still go to church to fellowship and learn.....cause it is good to not forsake the assembly of beleivers... but that church building is NOT the church....believers are the church. Again.... when one gets saved, one joins Jesus..not some religion.
What about the millions of people who haven't been raised with the teachings of Jesus? Do you really believe there is no "salvation" for them simply because they hadn't access to the way of Jesus?? Could it be that Jesus represented a way that is universal to every human being (with or without Jesus)? Splendidlife....I believe God is able to reach every man....
and make Himself known to every man..... in ways, far greater than man can ever imagine. God's ways are Higher than our ways. Do I think the millions of peope of other faiths are gonna perish? No....... cause God makes Himself known to all..... and will continue to make Himself known to all. One way God reaches and makes Himself known to others, is thru believers sharing the gospel , like we have been, and are doing right now. Also.....Thanks to sattelite, the gospel right now, is going into far away places like India, China, and into every nation of the world. Splendidlife....God has planted a desire in every man's heart to know God. Again....God is more than able to make Himself known to all mankind. Even if we fully don't understand how. God's ways are higher than ours. God created us all..and Loves us all........and would not have one to perish. There are hungry hearts out there Splendidlife..who are sick of religion. They are finally finding that the empty hole in their souls.... can only be closed, by accepting Jesus as their Saviour......the One sent for all mankind. When they accept Jesus, they find that Jesus is able to what no Religion could ever do......and will never be able to do. Jesus is the Answer for the Whole Wide World today....no one else can do what Jesus can do. No One. Only Jesus can bring us back into relationship with God... back home where we belong...where God meant for his Creation to be all along.
Amen 
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MorningSong, you are so naive. You claim that to accept Jesus as "the Christ" is not to join a religion. But by accepting that Jesus was "The Christ" is to accept that Jesus was the Son of the God of Abraham. It most certainly is the same thing as joining a religion. Jesus "as The Christ" is indeed a character within the dogma of a religion. I accept Jesus as "The Man" who denounced the bigotry, predjudice and male chauvinism of the very religion that you support. I denounce religion MorningSong. I denounce bigotry in the name of Jesus. Jesus was a Buddhist who denounced the mythical dogma of the very bigoted religion that you support. Trying to claim that it's not a religion is ludicous. |
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Krimsa....when we accept Jesus into our hearts as Our Saviour, Jesus forgives us and then washes away ALL our sins.... and they are remembered no more.
That's interesting, MorningSong... Doesn't it seem that those we know who suffer the greatest are those plagued by their own past memories? Much of these painful memories are of how one has been wronged by circumstances and people outside of self. Less admitted, inescapable memories include one's own "wrong" doings and the hurt they've caused others. One who hasn't yet been able to fully acknowledge how one's actions have harmed others seems even more caught in a web of negativity... Hiding out and placing blame outside of self. Truly, that is Hell on Earth and certainly explains the concept of sin against true self (or god). If you see a connection to Jesus as being the ONLY way anyone can wash away these "sins", this misery, and there are millions of people on this planet who don't feel any connection to the Christian belief, how can it be that Jesus is the only way? There has GOT to be a Universal way that doesn't exclude a single individual... A way that doesn't dictate all follow only one Religious path or any Religion, for that matter. This kind of demand only seems to perpetuate further divide. Isn't further divide the last thing we need for Humanity? Splendidlife....accepting Jesus as Saviour, is not about joining some Religion. Neither is becoming a Christian. Christianity never was meant to be about religion.... Christianity is a Lifestyle.... although people do rank christianity as a religion. But it is not. When You Join Jesus, you are not joining some religion. Jesus is the Saviour... for the whole world. God is not about Religion. But Relationship. Jesus is the WAY for Man to be brought back into Relationship with God. Jesus is for the whole wide world. When you become a Christian , you join Jesus...not a religion. Sure, you still go to church to fellowship and learn.....cause it is good to not forsake the assembly of beleivers... but that church building is NOT the church....believers are the church. Again.... when one gets saved, one joins Jesus..not some religion.
What about the millions of people who haven't been raised with the teachings of Jesus? Do you really believe there is no "salvation" for them simply because they hadn't access to the way of Jesus?? Could it be that Jesus represented a way that is universal to every human being (with or without Jesus)? Splendidlife....I believe God is able to reach every man....
and make Himself known to every man..... in ways, far greater than man can ever imagine. God's ways are Higher than our ways. Do I think the millions of peope of other faiths are gonna perish? No....... cause God makes Himself known to all..... and will continue to make Himself known to all. One way God reaches and makes Himself known to others, is thru believers sharing the gospel , like we have been, and are doing right now. Also.....Thanks to sattelite, the gospel right now, is going into far away places like India, China, and into every nation of the world. Splendidlife....God has planted a desire in every man's heart to know God. Again....God is more than able to make Himself known to all mankind. Even if we fully don't understand how. God's ways are higher than ours. God created us all..and Loves us all........and would not have one to perish. There are hungry hearts out there Splendidlife..who are sick of religion. They are finally finding that the empty hole in their souls.... can only be closed, by accepting Jesus as their Saviour......the One sent for all mankind. When they accept Jesus, they find that Jesus is able to do ..... what no Religion could EVER do......and will NEVER be able to do. Jesus is the Answer for the Whole Wide World today.... no one else can do what Jesus can do. No One. Only Jesus can bring us back into relationship with Abba Father...... and bring us all back home where we belong...with God... where God meant for his Creation to be all along.
If God is within the heart of every human, some may choose to utilize the message of Jesus to connect to the fact that this already exists for all of mankind and already existed long before Jesus came to be. I believe that every last man and woman NEVER has to "perish"... regardless of whether or not they "accept" Jesus. I'd bet that, if Jesus was here today as a living man, he'd agree. Regardless of words that have been interpreted to mean that we MUST accept Jesus as our savior or parish, I believe that Jesus was a representation of the process that every last human ultimately faces. |
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Splendidlife....Sin cut us OFF from God....
Jesus RESTORES us BACK to God. It's that Simple. All we have to do is simply beleive and recieve Jesus.... that free gift of grace offered. And mean it. Nothing more. Nothing less. Jesus already did it all... Jesus already paid it all.....in Full.... so we wouldn't have to bear or pay for our sins anymore.... Jesus already made a Way.... for us all to be restored back into relationship with Abba Father.....once more. Jesus IS the WAY ....that allows us to come back home where we belong. Abba Father longs for us.... to come back home .... so we can spend all eternity with Him... the way God planned it.... from the very beginning. Nite Splendidlife....Be Blessed Now.
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Morning song with all due respect I think this subject matter might fall under the jurisdiction of out an out proselytizing and you guys were given your own forum for that called "Christian Singles." Yes well some here always want to stop other people's freedom of speech on this board. I'm sure they were told about it already. I hope it's reported. I'm sure the mods would agree... having a CS board does not exclude US from this one. MS is a sweet person who shows love to all in all her posts. There is no breaking board rules on that one. |
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Edited by
Krimsa
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Morning song with all due respect I think this subject matter might fall under the jurisdiction of out an out proselytizing and you guys were given your own forum for that called "Christian Singles." Yes well some here always want to stop other people's freedom of speech on this board. I'm sure they were told about it already. I hope it's reported. I'm sure the mods would agree... having a CS board does not exclude US from this one. MS is a sweet person who shows love to all in all her posts. There is no breaking board rules on that one. You were accommodated and given your own forum called "Christian Singles". Technically MS should have posted this there. I already told her I won’t complain since I consider her a friend. Topics that are meant to address one specific religion only should go into your own forum. This was why you were given your own forum. We do not have our own. We do not go into Christian Singles posting a bunch of Wiccan or Pagan related subject matter. Fair is fair. |
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I will try to explain this once again yes we do have seprate Religion Forums.
But the General Religion Forum is in fact for all Religions to post within if you are in fact wanting others that are not within your Religion to debate what you have written. Therefore as long as the OP had this intention then the thread is within the Forum it belongs in. And let me remind you a debate is not attacking another for their opinion it is in fact putting forth your information of the facts showing they are wrong instead. So please respond in such a manner not by attacking someone due to their opinion. If the message. they are posting refers to one specific Religion only then it would in fact should be place within that specific Religion. Thank You Site Mod Kristi |
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I will try to explain this once again yes we do have seprate Religion Forums. But the General Religion Forum is in fact for all Religions to post within if you are in fact wanting others that are not within your Religion to debate what you have written. Therefore as long as the OP had this intention then the thread is within the Forum it belongs in. And let me remind you a debate is not attacking another for their opinion it is in fact putting forth your information of the facts showing they are wrong instead. So please respond in such a manner not by attacking someone due to their opinion. If the message. they are posting refers to one specific Religion only then it would in fact should be place within that specific Religion. Thank You Site Mod Kristi Expressly are those who insist that Christians should not post here at all. That has nothing to do with personal attacks...unless you want to correct those who insist that Christians shouldn't post here...as a personal attack that is. |
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I will try to explain this once again yes we do have seprate Religion Forums. But the General Religion Forum is in fact for all Religions to post within if you are in fact wanting others that are not within your Religion to debate what you have written. Therefore as long as the OP had this intention then the thread is within the Forum it belongs in. And let me remind you a debate is not attacking another for their opinion it is in fact putting forth your information of the facts showing they are wrong instead. So please respond in such a manner not by attacking someone due to their opinion. If the message. they are posting refers to one specific Religion only then it would in fact should be place within that specific Religion. Thank You Site Mod Kristi |
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It seems only fair to me that if Christians or the Christian faith is being particularly addressed by non-Christians, that Christians should be allowed to respond.
If you say "I do", then I should have the opportunity to say "I don't" If you say "I don't" then I should have the opportunity to say "I do" If Christians in particular are not to be allowed to respond or address a point made specifically against their faith, then points specifically against their faith shouldn't be allowed either. Fair is fair no ? |
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