Topic: ......CALL TO SALVATION......
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Fri 01/16/09 01:23 PM

Oh, Funchie...

Sometimes you're so funny. laugh

You mention how you're sometimes condemned for the things you say here, then it seems you add a "but" to explain how you're above the condemnation. Then you continue by condemning those who don't express their ideas as you think they should. Even funnier is when you finish it off by speaking of how others place blame.
laugh


oh spendidy

now you are having hallucinations... please point out where I said that I was above condemnation

and why would I believe that I was above condemnation when in a christian religion forum those that are not Christian has already been condemned


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Fri 01/16/09 01:27 PM
That’s true. They think even nice people are going to hell because we don’t believe in Jesus. whoa

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Fri 01/16/09 01:45 PM

Actually, I am going to ask the mods to delete this thread....

because after posting, I thought about it more....and realized some errors within this post....

for one, God does NOT require we make Jesus BOSS...in order to be SAVED!!!


so "MorningSong" that would mean that you have being preaching untruth scriptures since you been in this forum

also if you say that you must accept Jesus as your Lord and savior and not your boss ..I mean isn't a Lord higher than a boss

imagine if people went to their job and had to call their boss Lord

so now that you recanted your first message as being an error once you realized it didn't apply to letting little babies into Heaven... now can you give a brief synopsis as to how one can get into Heaven ..

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Fri 01/16/09 01:49 PM



Morning song with all due respect I think this subject matter might fall under the jurisdiction of out an out proselytizing and you guys were given your own forum for that called "Christian Singles."


come on give "MorningSong' a break, ...imagine the conversations that are taking place there in Christians Singles...or perhaps the lack of conversation ...MorningSong is probably going nut-so by now and may need time away from them

so let's welcome MorningSong and her restricting faith with open arms of debate and then she may realize that maybe this is the way Heaven should be



((((((flowerforyou:heart:Funches:heart:flowerforyou)))))

Funches....I always knew deep down, that you are just a Teddy bear ...and a Very Sweet Man.flowerforyou



BEHOLD MY CHILD ...for I'm as pure at the driven snow

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Fri 01/16/09 01:56 PM

That’s true. They think even nice people are going to hell because we don’t believe in Jesus. whoa


the existence of nice non-christians can not be proved

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Fri 01/16/09 02:03 PM
Edited by splendidlife on Fri 01/16/09 02:07 PM


Oh, Funchie...

Sometimes you're so funny. laugh

You mention how you're sometimes condemned for the things you say here, then it seems you add a "but" to explain how you're above the condemnation. Then you continue by condemning those who don't express their ideas as you think they should. Even funnier is when you finish it off by speaking of how others place blame.
laugh


oh spendidy

now you are having hallucinations... please point out where I said that I was above condemnation

and why would I believe that I was above condemnation when in a christian religion forum those that are not Christian has already been condemned




I said it SEEMS...

You add a "but" to start comparing your words on these threads to others' words. It seems you do so in order to point out how "wrong" others are.

Now... Of course you never actually said you were "above" anything. You don't need to actually say so. You get your point across and make certain to shoot others down in the process.

What may occur to you as "condemnation" may in fact be valuable information TO YOU, showing you how your words affect those around you.

My guess is that the only hallucination I'm having is probably in believing that you actually value any words other than your own.

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Fri 01/16/09 02:12 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Fri 01/16/09 03:10 PM


Actually, I am going to ask the mods to delete this thread....

because after posting, I thought about it more....and realized some errors within this post....

for one, God does NOT require we make Jesus BOSS...in order to be SAVED!!!


so "MorningSong" that would mean that you have being preaching untruth scriptures since you been in this forum

also if you say that you must accept Jesus as your Lord and savior and not your boss ..I mean isn't a Lord higher than a boss

imagine if people went to their job and had to call their boss Lord

so now that you recanted your first message as being an error once you realized it didn't apply to letting little babies into Heaven... now can you give a brief synopsis as to how one can get into Heaven ..


Funches...babies are in heaven...not held accountable...God is not some legalistic monster....

In other words....God is not gonna prevent a little babe from entering heaven ,who has no ability of understanding yet ,of even knowing how to accept or reject Christ .

Remember... God does not reject us...we reject God....

Rejecting Jesus ,and therefore refusing the free gift of salvation offered, is what prevents us from being united with God the Father....

which is what Salvation does.

Salvation(which comes by accepting Jesus as the One sent to save us), is what brings us back into Relationship with God Almighty....

and allows us access into heaven..and gives us eternal life.

But again, a little child who doesn't yet understand, is not held accountable.(I have posted on this before).


Also...I am not the author of the Original Post....

after I posted it last night,
I later re-read it more thoroughly,
and
saw the error in the post ( about making Jesus boss first, in order to be saved).........

nope......not scriptural...

All that is required to be SAVED, is one thing and one thing only......

and that is.....

BELIEVING AND THEN RECIEVING JESUS INTO OUR HEART ,

WITH A SINCERE HEART.........NOTHING MORE!!!!!!!!

SEE...GOD SEES AND KNOWS THE HEART....

AND KNOWS THOSE WHO ARE SINCERE.

AGAIN.....THAT IS ALL GOD REQUIRES...

AND ONCE AGAIN , THAT IS....

ASKING JESUS HIS SON INTO OUR HEARTS....

AND MEANING IT !!!

NO WORKS REQUIRED.....NOTHING ESLE REQUIRED...

CAUSE SALVATION IS A FREE GIFT OF GRACE....

AVAILABLE FOR ALL....INCLUDING YOU, FUNCHES.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


:heart::heart::heart:

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Fri 01/16/09 02:23 PM



Oh, Funchie...

Sometimes you're so funny. laugh

You mention how you're sometimes condemned for the things you say here, then it seems you add a "but" to explain how you're above the condemnation. Then you continue by condemning those who don't express their ideas as you think they should. Even funnier is when you finish it off by speaking of how others place blame.
laugh


oh spendidy

now you are having hallucinations... please point out where I said that I was above condemnation

and why would I believe that I was above condemnation when in a christian religion forum those that are not Christian has already been condemned




I said it SEEMS...

You add a "but" to start comparing your words on these threads to others' words. It seems you do so in order to point out how "wrong" others are.

Now... Of course you never actually said you were "above" anything. You don't need to actually say so. You get your point across and make certain to shoot others down in the process.

What may occur to you as "condemnation" may in fact be valuable information TO YOU, showing you how your words affect those around you.

My guess is that the only hallucination I'm having is probably in believing that you actually value any words other than your own.


Of course, I get how ridiculous this all is, since I'm now doing the exact thing I've accused you of.
slaphead

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Fri 01/16/09 02:27 PM

What may occur to you as "condemnation" may in fact be valuable information TO YOU, showing you how your words affect those around you.


spendidy

those are the purpose of words they effect you whether they are typed spoken or "google cut and paste" off the internet ...and they may effect everyone differently ...all I can do is discuss what I say logically before I condemn others then run and hide behind faith

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Fri 01/16/09 02:36 PM

Of course, I get how ridiculous this all is, since I'm now doing the exact thing I've accused you of.
slaphead


spendidy

so are you going to take resposibility or blame someone else

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Fri 01/16/09 02:53 PM
rofl rofl rofl rofl

Very entertaining thread folks.

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Fri 01/16/09 02:56 PM

Also...I am not the author of the Original Post....

after I posted it last night,
I later re-read it more thoroughly,
and
saw the error in the post ( about making Jesus boss first, in order to be saved).........


and that "MorningSong" and "Slendidy" was exactly the point I was trying to make

if you post it ...then you should be the one that takes responsibility for it and not blame someone else or what's in the scriptures

if you wish to condemn people to hell then don't blame Jesus or God when it's you that are typing or speaking the words and it's your belief

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Fri 01/16/09 03:28 PM
I take full responsibility for all my posts on here. If I die and then I end up going to heaven and all the Christians end up being right about this stuff, I’m probably in big trouble. I imagine some little note keeper type angel that keeps diligent records on all of us will pull me aside and ask me to explain all of my remarks made on that Mingle2 forum. That’s gonna be hard to justify. :tongue:

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Fri 01/16/09 03:35 PM
Edited by splendidlife on Fri 01/16/09 03:36 PM


Of course, I get how ridiculous this all is, since I'm now doing the exact thing I've accused you of.
slaphead


spendidy

so are you going to take resposibility or blame someone else


Ummm...

I believe I just admitted to doing the same.

How can that not occur as taking responsibility? What else would satisfy your apparent desire to prove me wrong?

I would hope that admitting my own error would not minimize observations about your approach.

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Fri 01/16/09 03:35 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Fri 01/16/09 03:39 PM
Krimsa....when we accept Jesus into our hearts as Our Saviour,

Jesus forgives us and then washes away ALL our sins....

and they are remembered no more.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

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Fri 01/16/09 03:39 PM

Remembered no more? (I bet he gives them a shot of the date rape drug that steals your memories.)

I like my memories. I don't want them taken away.


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Fri 01/16/09 03:44 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Fri 01/16/09 03:48 PM
After God washes away our sins ,

God remembers our sins no more.

And if God remembers our sins no more,

then God doesn't want us to keep remembering them either.

Talking about past sins that are now forgiven and washed away.......not memories, Jeanniebean.

flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou




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Fri 01/16/09 04:04 PM
Edited by splendidlife on Fri 01/16/09 04:26 PM

Krimsa....when we accept Jesus into our hearts as Our Saviour,

Jesus forgives us and then washes away ALL our sins....

and they are remembered no more.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



That's interesting, MorningSong...

Doesn't it seem that those we know who suffer the greatest are those plagued by their own past memories?

Much of these painful memories are of how one has been wronged by circumstances and people outside of self. Less admitted, inescapable memories include one's own "wrong" doings and the hurt they've caused others. One who hasn't yet been able to fully acknowledge how one's actions have harmed others seems even more caught in a web of negativity... Hiding out and placing blame outside of self. Truly, that is Hell on Earth and certainly explains the concept of sin against true self (or god).

If you see a connection to Jesus as being the ONLY way anyone can wash away these "sins", this misery, and there are millions of people on this planet who don't feel any connection to the Christian belief, how can it be that Jesus is the only way?

There has GOT to be a Universal way that doesn't exclude a single individual... A way that doesn't dictate all follow only one Religious path or any Religion, for that matter. This kind of demand only seems to perpetuate further divide. Isn't further divide the last thing we need for Humanity?

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Fri 01/16/09 04:04 PM
Edited by funches on Fri 01/16/09 04:05 PM

spendidy

Ummm...

I believe I just admitted to doing the same.

How can that not occur as taking responsibility? What else would satisfy your apparent desire to prove me wrong?


spendidy

all I request is that you perhaps remember this moment the next time you feel the desire to start condemning

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Fri 01/16/09 04:08 PM
Edited by splendidlife on Fri 01/16/09 04:28 PM


spendidy

Ummm...

I believe I just admitted to doing the same.

How can that not occur as taking responsibility? What else would satisfy your apparent desire to prove me wrong?


spendidy

all I request is that you perhaps remember this moment the next time you feel the desire to start condemning


Yes...

I will.

I hope that admitting my own error will not diminish your willingness to look at your own approach.