Topic: Israeli forces shell UN headquarters in Gaza
Fanta46's photo
Fri 01/16/09 07:32 AM

Hamas attacked Israeli soldiers from the UNRWA facility with antitank fire. The immediate response was harsh. Again, the fault lies primarily with Hamas although Israel apologized.

Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Al-Qaida, Taliban and other terrorist organizations completely ignore the UN except as a means to politically manipulate those who they are trying to kill.




John Ging, director of UNRWA operations in Gaza, said the attack at the compound caused a "massive explosion" that wounded three people.

A senior Israeli military officer said troops opened fire after militants inside the compound shot anti-tank weapons and machine guns. The officer spoke on condition of anonymity pending a formal army announcement later in the day.

Ging, who was in the compound at the time, dismissed the Israeli account as "nonsense."

Somebody is lying.
Who?

s1owhand's photo
Fri 01/16/09 08:03 AM
Edited by s1owhand on Fri 01/16/09 08:08 AM


Hamas attacked Israeli soldiers from the UNRWA facility with antitank fire. The immediate response was harsh. Again, the fault lies primarily with Hamas although Israel apologized.

Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic Jihad, Al-Qaida, Taliban and other terrorist organizations completely ignore the UN except as a means to politically manipulate those who they are trying to kill.




John Ging, director of UNRWA operations in Gaza, said the attack at the compound caused a "massive explosion" that wounded three people.

A senior Israeli military officer said troops opened fire after militants inside the compound shot anti-tank weapons and machine guns. The officer spoke on condition of anonymity pending a formal army announcement later in the day.

Ging, who was in the compound at the time, dismissed the Israeli account as "nonsense."

Somebody is lying.
Who?



Well, since Ging was apparently inside the compound at the time then he did not observe the exchange of fire. Ging is not in a position to know what happened.


s1owhand's photo
Fri 01/16/09 08:07 AM
'Shelled UN building used by Hamas'
By YAAKOV KATZ AND AP

Gunshots and an anti-tank missile were fired at IDF troops near the UN compound that was attacked by the IDF on Thursday, senior defense officials told The Jerusalem Post.

According to the officials, the IDF responded by firing artillery shells at the location of the gunmen, causing damage to the UN installations. At least three people were wounded in the attack and the building was set on fire.

The IDF's Gaza Coordination and Liaison Administration coordinated the arrival of five fire trucks to the compound to help put out the flames.

UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon, who was in Israel on Thursday to promote a cease-fire between Israel and Hamas, expressed "strong protest and outrage" at the reported shelling of the UN compound.
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Ban also demanded an investigation into the shelling, and said Defense Minister Ehud Barak had told him it was a "grave mistake."

Palestinians reported that an IDF tank shell also struck one of the wings of the Gaza Al-Quds Hospital midday Thursday. Witnesses said part of the structure was on fire. The army said that the building was being used by Hamas men who were firing on IDF troops.

Fanta46's photo
Fri 01/16/09 08:21 AM
Israel says so then it must be true..
The UN is the liars then?????
noway noway noway noway

s1owhand's photo
Fri 01/16/09 08:40 AM

Israel says so then it must be true..
The UN is the liars then?????
noway noway noway noway


Ging wasn't watching the exchange of fire that's all.
Just because the IDF makes a statement that doesn't make it false.

Since the IDF has no other reason to point their guns
in that direction, it sounds pretty reasonable to me.

Hamas - who continue to ignore all attempts to broker
a cease fire - clearly want to injure civilians on the
other hand.

whoa

Fanta46's photo
Fri 01/16/09 08:52 AM
Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 01/16/09 08:53 AM
Give me a break.

Israel would like nothing better than to have zero witnesses to its crimes. What better way to do it than destroy the UN headquarters and drive them into the streets. If by chance they happened to kill everyone in the compound then they would no doubt have blamed it on the Palestinians.
The Israeli's are notorious liars!

They are not Gods People.
Maybe the other guys????pitchfork

Delsoldamien's photo
Fri 01/16/09 11:18 AM
I think it is time for Israel to just level gaza once and for all, then they don't have to worry about it any more..

Winx's photo
Fri 01/16/09 12:37 PM

I think it is time for Israel to just level gaza once and for all, then they don't have to worry about it any more..


Kill a whole city with civilians and children?!shocked noway :angry:


Delsoldamien's photo
Fri 01/16/09 12:48 PM
If you have an infection, you cut out more then the infected for what reason, so that it won't infect more area and to remove the area that might already be infected but not showing the symptoms... It is a drastic, but effective. Did Hamas care how many innocent women and children they killed with suicide bombers that walk into resturaunts and night clubs or busy shopping centers or buses?? I think not, to them any Israeli is a target, and open for destruction..why should they be treated any different?

Winx's photo
Fri 01/16/09 12:52 PM

If you have an infection, you cut out more then the infected for what reason, so that it won't infect more area and to remove the area that might already be infected but not showing the symptoms... It is a drastic, but effective. Did Hamas care how many innocent women and children they killed with suicide bombers that walk into resturaunts and night clubs or busy shopping centers or buses?? I think not, to them any Israeli is a target, and open for destruction..why should they be treated any different?


If you have an infection? Isn't that how Hitler regarded Jewish people?!

Delsoldamien's photo
Fri 01/16/09 01:11 PM
I knew that you would focus on that part and not respond to the rest of it...so lets put it a way that you can understand it....Israel wishes to live in peace, and have given them the land that Hamas and Hezbolla demanded and said that if they got back, they could live in peace with Israel. But they can't, tehy are committed to the destruction of Israel and will stop at nothing. Women, children are being taught to kill the Jewish people just for being Jewish and living in Israel..Hitler destroyed the Jewish people for what reason?? Did they attack Hitler?? Did they wrap themselves in bombs and kill other German citizens??? You cannot even compare the to. They are not moral equivialant to each other..

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Fri 01/16/09 01:23 PM
Edited by Unknow on Fri 01/16/09 01:27 PM

I knew that you would focus on that part and not respond to the rest of it...so lets put it a way that you can understand it....Israel wishes to live in peace, and have given them the land that Hamas and Hezbolla demanded and said that if they got back, they could live in peace with Israel. But they can't, tehy are committed to the destruction of Israel and will stop at nothing. Women, children are being taught to kill the Jewish people just for being Jewish and living in Israel..Hitler destroyed the Jewish people for what reason?? Did they attack Hitler?? Did they wrap themselves in bombs and kill other German citizens??? You cannot even compare the to. They are not moral equivialant to each other..
WOW!!! Very Christian of you!!! I see you only live by the bible when it suits you. Whats that about false witness????? So EVERYBODY in Gaza is a terrorist?

karmafury's photo
Fri 01/16/09 01:42 PM
Edited by karmafury on Fri 01/16/09 02:19 PM
UN is ineffective unless the US votes with the others.


The General Assembly Declarations,Conventions etc still went through. Just that the US didn't sign or agree to them.
Strange thing though. A nation with so much feeling about equal rights, democracy refuses to sign, agree with things that would bring just those things to other nations.

Insofar as the UN needing the military might of the US.....

The US is NOT the major contributor to Peacekeeping missions. Much smaller nations contribute more.

Delsoldamien's photo
Fri 01/16/09 01:46 PM
hahaha I knew it wouldn't take long for you to show up...hahaha Show me those that are not. You don't want to talk to me about the bible, if you read it you would find that God did the same thing...no I am not advocating it now, but mostly trying to stimulate conversation.

no photo
Fri 01/16/09 01:47 PM

hahaha I knew it wouldn't take long for you to show up...hahaha Show me those that are not. You don't want to talk to me about the bible, if you read it you would find that God did the same thing...no I am not advocating it now, but mostly trying to stimulate conversation.


So newborn babies are terrorists?

You are disgusting.ill

Delsoldamien's photo
Fri 01/16/09 01:52 PM
I on the other hand Invisible, and not judgemental like you apparently are, in a debate or discussion, you should look at all aspects and then form a educated opinion..not just jump to conclusions as you have. No babies are not terrorists, but if you raise them up with terrorists, telling them from birth that they should strap bombs on themselves and blow innocent people up and this will get you to heaven...then who is the sick one??

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Fri 01/16/09 01:56 PM

I on the other hand Invisible, and not judgemental like you apparently are, in a debate or discussion, you should look at all aspects and then form a educated opinion..not just jump to conclusions as you have. No babies are not terrorists, but if you raise them up with terrorists, telling them from birth that they should strap bombs on themselves and blow innocent people up and this will get you to heaven...then who is the sick one??


And that's why babies have to die, too?

It's people like you that make them terrorists, because it's people with your mindset terrorising them.
Maybe you should get that in your oh so supreme head.

s1owhand's photo
Fri 01/16/09 01:59 PM

Give me a break.

Israel would like nothing better than to have zero witnesses to its crimes. What better way to do it than destroy the UN headquarters and drive them into the streets. If by chance they happened to kill everyone in the compound then they would no doubt have blamed it on the Palestinians.
The Israeli's are notorious liars!

They are not Gods People.
Maybe the other guys????pitchfork


Well if Israel didn't want witnesses then they probably wouldn't be operating completely out in the open where anyone can see them. There are plenty of witnesses. Ging just isn't one of them.

laugh

If the Israelis wanted to destroy the UN headquarters then they could have easily done that long ago.

But they didn't. Nor did they kill everyone in the compound. And there is no evidence that they are lying either.

laugh

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Fri 01/16/09 02:13 PM
Edited by Unknow on Fri 01/16/09 02:15 PM

hahaha I knew it wouldn't take long for you to show up...hahaha Show me those that are not. You don't want to talk to me about the bible, if you read it you would find that God did the same thing...no I am not advocating it now, but mostly trying to stimulate conversation.
"I think it is time for Israel to just level gaza once and for all, then they don't have to worry about it any more.."

You are saying everyone in Gaza deserves to die. Why?

SIX: 'You shall not murder.'
NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'

You want to wipe out millions for the action of a few.......I will pray for you....

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Fri 01/16/09 02:16 PM


hahaha I knew it wouldn't take long for you to show up...hahaha Show me those that are not. You don't want to talk to me about the bible, if you read it you would find that God did the same thing...no I am not advocating it now, but mostly trying to stimulate conversation.
"I think it is time for Israel to just level gaza once and for all, then they don't have to worry about it any more.."

You are saying everyone in Gaza deserves to die. Why?

SIX: 'You shall not murder.'
NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'

You want to wipe out millions for the action of a few.......


but that's what his god did, didn't he, sending in the floods.
Aye, a very loving god indeed.
And our friend is following him, word for word.ill