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Topic: Would another 911 be better than what Bush has done
madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Mon 01/12/09 05:13 PM
we tried it your way for 8 years and we are bankrupt. Do you suggest we try it for 8 more?

jdcolvin Joined Thu 11/15/07 Posts: 508	Mon 01/12/09 05:17 PM
we need a mingle mental health ward for the mentally incompitent to post in

Giocamo Joined Tue 08/19/08 Posts: 3297	Mon 01/12/09 05:25 PM Edited by Giocamo on Mon 01/12/09 05:28 PM
we tried it your way for 8 years and we are bankrupt. Do you suggest we try it for 8 more? Article 1 Section 8... The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; The Congress shall have power To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;...

nogames39 Joined Sat 12/27/08 Posts: 2752	Mon 01/12/09 06:50 PM
"Would another 911 be better than what Bush has done?" You mean he should just stick to making 911s?

Giocamo Joined Tue 08/19/08 Posts: 3297	Mon 01/12/09 06:57 PM
He has created more terrorists with his policies than ever existed with his illegal war in Iraq. And killed more US sodiers than Osama bin Laden killed civilians on 9/11. He's a coward. Him and Cheney! Article 1 Section 8... The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States; The Congress shall have power To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;...

Melaschasm Joined Wed 12/10/08 Posts: 262	Mon 01/12/09 07:23 PM
Just out of curiosity why do you think that the wars bankrupted America? US military spending is only a small fraction of federal spending. The wars barely increased this spending by a few percent of the total budget. How can you blame the economic collapse on a minority of Federal spending? If the US goes bankrupt it is going to be social security, medicare, medicaid, assorted other welfare spending, and these stupid bailouts. Or maybe the global warming hysteria.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Tue 01/13/09 12:59 AM
Just out of curiosity why do you think that the wars bankrupted America? US military spending is only a small fraction of federal spending. The wars barely increased this spending by a few percent of the total budget. How can you blame the economic collapse on a minority of Federal spending? If the US goes bankrupt it is going to be social security, medicare, medicaid, assorted other welfare spending, and these stupid bailouts. Or maybe the global warming hysteria. I dont think the american people are so stupid as to give up social security medicare and medicaid and keep building aircrat carriers. If we do then we deserve what we get. According to this White House document, the U.S. military budget for the fiscal year 2003 was $379 billion, an increase of roughly $48 billion from the year before. This budget represents roughly 18% of the federal budget, and 53% of the total discretionary money controlled by the Congress and the Administration. The increase alone was larger than the annual military budget of any other country. From the $379 billion figure, the worldwide list drops precipitously to $34.8 billion for the United Kingdom, $29 billion for Russia, $27 billion for France, and $23.1 billion for Germany. Next year, the budget is expected to increase to roughly $400 billion This is what is on the books dont forget the black projects or other foreign aid, like the ten million we give to Israel every day while our own people go without.

nogames39 Joined Sat 12/27/08 Posts: 2752	Tue 01/13/09 01:03 AM
Just out of curiosity why do you think that the wars bankrupted America? US military spending is only a small fraction of federal spending. The wars barely increased this spending by a few percent of the total budget. How can you blame the economic collapse on a minority of Federal spending? If the US goes bankrupt it is going to be social security, medicare, medicaid, assorted other welfare spending, and these stupid bailouts. Or maybe the global warming hysteria. While you do state all the good reasons, it is said that just one more straw is capable of breaking the camel's back.

Melaschasm Joined Wed 12/10/08 Posts: 262	Sun 01/18/09 05:38 PM
Just out of curiosity why do you think that the wars bankrupted America? US military spending is only a small fraction of federal spending. The wars barely increased this spending by a few percent of the total budget. How can you blame the economic collapse on a minority of Federal spending? If the US goes bankrupt it is going to be social security, medicare, medicaid, assorted other welfare spending, and these stupid bailouts. Or maybe the global warming hysteria. While you do state all the good reasons, it is said that just one more straw is capable of breaking the camel's back. According to the constitution, the military budget is one of the only things the Federal Government is supposed to be spending money on. It should be 60 to 80% of Federal spending, not 20%. The straws breaking the camels back are the stupid earmarks on top of the massive amounts of money that is wasted every year. The trillion dollar give away, called TARP is more than twice as large as the military budget. This recession has nothing to do with military spending.

AndrewAV Joined Sun 09/28/08 Posts: 1186	Sun 01/18/09 08:17 PM
Just out of curiosity why do you think that the wars bankrupted America? US military spending is only a small fraction of federal spending. The wars barely increased this spending by a few percent of the total budget. How can you blame the economic collapse on a minority of Federal spending? If the US goes bankrupt it is going to be social security, medicare, medicaid, assorted other welfare spending, and these stupid bailouts. Or maybe the global warming hysteria. I dont think the american people are so stupid as to give up social security medicare and medicaid and keep building aircrat carriers. If we do then we deserve what we get. According to this White House document, the U.S. military budget for the fiscal year 2003 was $379 billion, an increase of roughly $48 billion from the year before. This budget represents roughly 18% of the federal budget, and 53% of the total discretionary money controlled by the Congress and the Administration. The increase alone was larger than the annual military budget of any other country. From the $379 billion figure, the worldwide list drops precipitously to $34.8 billion for the United Kingdom, $29 billion for Russia, $27 billion for France, and $23.1 billion for Germany. Next year, the budget is expected to increase to roughly $400 billion This is what is on the books dont forget the black projects or other foreign aid, like the ten million we give to Israel every day while our own people go without. I think eliminating social security would be great. I'd rather not give money I'll never see again as it'll be bankrupt long before I retire. Medicaid is a waste as well in all but those cases that need it: children and the incapable. otherwise, get a job at target, they offer medical. just about any corporate job does. just because you have less is not a reason for me to give you more. The 'job' of the Federal government was intended to perform those duties that the free market is incapable of doing and are too large a scale for states to do. So basically, military should by far be the largest budget item. Social security is a wasteful program that nobody of my generation will ever see, even after dumping tens of thousands into it. we give more federal funds for 'infrastructure' and state projects than we do anything else. Cut the pork, cut the social programs and you're easily in the black.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 01/18/09 08:31 PM
Just out of curiosity why do you think that the wars bankrupted America? US military spending is only a small fraction of federal spending. The wars barely increased this spending by a few percent of the total budget. How can you blame the economic collapse on a minority of Federal spending? If the US goes bankrupt it is going to be social security, medicare, medicaid, assorted other welfare spending, and these stupid bailouts. Or maybe the global warming hysteria. I dont think the american people are so stupid as to give up social security medicare and medicaid and keep building aircrat carriers. If we do then we deserve what we get. According to this White House document, the U.S. military budget for the fiscal year 2003 was $379 billion, an increase of roughly $48 billion from the year before. This budget represents roughly 18% of the federal budget, and 53% of the total discretionary money controlled by the Congress and the Administration. The increase alone was larger than the annual military budget of any other country. From the $379 billion figure, the worldwide list drops precipitously to $34.8 billion for the United Kingdom, $29 billion for Russia, $27 billion for France, and $23.1 billion for Germany. Next year, the budget is expected to increase to roughly $400 billion This is what is on the books dont forget the black projects or other foreign aid, like the ten million we give to Israel every day while our own people go without. I think eliminating social security would be great. I'd rather not give money I'll never see again as it'll be bankrupt long before I retire. Medicaid is a waste as well in all but those cases that need it: children and the incapable. otherwise, get a job at target, they offer medical. just about any corporate job does. just because you have less is not a reason for me to give you more. The 'job' of the Federal government was intended to perform those duties that the free market is incapable of doing and are too large a scale for states to do. So basically, military should by far be the largest budget item. Social security is a wasteful program that nobody of my generation will ever see, even after dumping tens of thousands into it. we give more federal funds for 'infrastructure' and state projects than we do anything else. Cut the pork, cut the social programs and you're easily in the black. Iam emberresad a fellow american can be so , oh what is the word I am looking for.... anyhow when the gangs of hungry looters come to your town .oh never mind

AndrewAV Joined Sun 09/28/08 Posts: 1186	Sun 01/18/09 08:41 PM Edited by AndrewAV on Sun 01/18/09 08:45 PM
Just out of curiosity why do you think that the wars bankrupted America? US military spending is only a small fraction of federal spending. The wars barely increased this spending by a few percent of the total budget. How can you blame the economic collapse on a minority of Federal spending? If the US goes bankrupt it is going to be social security, medicare, medicaid, assorted other welfare spending, and these stupid bailouts. Or maybe the global warming hysteria. I dont think the american people are so stupid as to give up social security medicare and medicaid and keep building aircrat carriers. If we do then we deserve what we get. According to this White House document, the U.S. military budget for the fiscal year 2003 was $379 billion, an increase of roughly $48 billion from the year before. This budget represents roughly 18% of the federal budget, and 53% of the total discretionary money controlled by the Congress and the Administration. The increase alone was larger than the annual military budget of any other country. From the $379 billion figure, the worldwide list drops precipitously to $34.8 billion for the United Kingdom, $29 billion for Russia, $27 billion for France, and $23.1 billion for Germany. Next year, the budget is expected to increase to roughly $400 billion This is what is on the books dont forget the black projects or other foreign aid, like the ten million we give to Israel every day while our own people go without. I think eliminating social security would be great. I'd rather not give money I'll never see again as it'll be bankrupt long before I retire. Medicaid is a waste as well in all but those cases that need it: children and the incapable. otherwise, get a job at target, they offer medical. just about any corporate job does. just because you have less is not a reason for me to give you more. The 'job' of the Federal government was intended to perform those duties that the free market is incapable of doing and are too large a scale for states to do. So basically, military should by far be the largest budget item. Social security is a wasteful program that nobody of my generation will ever see, even after dumping tens of thousands into it. we give more federal funds for 'infrastructure' and state projects than we do anything else. Cut the pork, cut the social programs and you're easily in the black. Iam emberresad a fellow american can be so , oh what is the word I am looking for.... anyhow when the gangs of hungry looters come to your town .oh never mind apparently you missed the part where the military stays around. so what? because I believe in personal responsibility? If you can help yourself and instead would rather sit back in your poverty getting just enough from the government to get by, I think you deserve to starve in the streets. Judge me for it. Ask me if I care. Sidenote: I'm embarrassed (that's how you spell it by the way) for those that promote a failing ideology like yourself. Hard work worked for my father, his father in the auto industry, and every generation before that. Social programs have made us lazy and ignorant with a "gimme gimme gimme" attitude.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 01/18/09 08:44 PM
Just out of curiosity why do you think that the wars bankrupted America? US military spending is only a small fraction of federal spending. The wars barely increased this spending by a few percent of the total budget. How can you blame the economic collapse on a minority of Federal spending? If the US goes bankrupt it is going to be social security, medicare, medicaid, assorted other welfare spending, and these stupid bailouts. Or maybe the global warming hysteria. I dont think the american people are so stupid as to give up social security medicare and medicaid and keep building aircrat carriers. If we do then we deserve what we get. According to this White House document, the U.S. military budget for the fiscal year 2003 was $379 billion, an increase of roughly $48 billion from the year before. This budget represents roughly 18% of the federal budget, and 53% of the total discretionary money controlled by the Congress and the Administration. The increase alone was larger than the annual military budget of any other country. From the $379 billion figure, the worldwide list drops precipitously to $34.8 billion for the United Kingdom, $29 billion for Russia, $27 billion for France, and $23.1 billion for Germany. Next year, the budget is expected to increase to roughly $400 billion This is what is on the books dont forget the black projects or other foreign aid, like the ten million we give to Israel every day while our own people go without. I think eliminating social security would be great. I'd rather not give money I'll never see again as it'll be bankrupt long before I retire. Medicaid is a waste as well in all but those cases that need it: children and the incapable. otherwise, get a job at target, they offer medical. just about any corporate job does. just because you have less is not a reason for me to give you more. The 'job' of the Federal government was intended to perform those duties that the free market is incapable of doing and are too large a scale for states to do. So basically, military should by far be the largest budget item. Social security is a wasteful program that nobody of my generation will ever see, even after dumping tens of thousands into it. we give more federal funds for 'infrastructure' and state projects than we do anything else. Cut the pork, cut the social programs and you're easily in the black. Iam emberresad a fellow american can be so , oh what is the word I am looking for.... anyhow when the gangs of hungry looters come to your town .oh never mind apparently you missed the part where the military stays around. so what? because I believe in personal responsibility? If you can help yourself and instead would rather sit back in your poverty getting just enough from the government to get by, I think you deserve to starve in the streets. Judge me for it. Ask me if I care. So basicly you would rather see machine gun toteing guards on every street corner? hmm sounds like a happy place your world

Drago01 Joined Tue 12/30/08 Posts: 1311	Sun 01/18/09 08:45 PM
Americans voted Bush into office. 911 happened. We got what we asked for.

AndrewAV Joined Sun 09/28/08 Posts: 1186	Sun 01/18/09 08:46 PM
Just out of curiosity why do you think that the wars bankrupted America? US military spending is only a small fraction of federal spending. The wars barely increased this spending by a few percent of the total budget. How can you blame the economic collapse on a minority of Federal spending? If the US goes bankrupt it is going to be social security, medicare, medicaid, assorted other welfare spending, and these stupid bailouts. Or maybe the global warming hysteria. I dont think the american people are so stupid as to give up social security medicare and medicaid and keep building aircrat carriers. If we do then we deserve what we get. According to this White House document, the U.S. military budget for the fiscal year 2003 was $379 billion, an increase of roughly $48 billion from the year before. This budget represents roughly 18% of the federal budget, and 53% of the total discretionary money controlled by the Congress and the Administration. The increase alone was larger than the annual military budget of any other country. From the $379 billion figure, the worldwide list drops precipitously to $34.8 billion for the United Kingdom, $29 billion for Russia, $27 billion for France, and $23.1 billion for Germany. Next year, the budget is expected to increase to roughly $400 billion This is what is on the books dont forget the black projects or other foreign aid, like the ten million we give to Israel every day while our own people go without. I think eliminating social security would be great. I'd rather not give money I'll never see again as it'll be bankrupt long before I retire. Medicaid is a waste as well in all but those cases that need it: children and the incapable. otherwise, get a job at target, they offer medical. just about any corporate job does. just because you have less is not a reason for me to give you more. The 'job' of the Federal government was intended to perform those duties that the free market is incapable of doing and are too large a scale for states to do. So basically, military should by far be the largest budget item. Social security is a wasteful program that nobody of my generation will ever see, even after dumping tens of thousands into it. we give more federal funds for 'infrastructure' and state projects than we do anything else. Cut the pork, cut the social programs and you're easily in the black. Iam emberresad a fellow american can be so , oh what is the word I am looking for.... anyhow when the gangs of hungry looters come to your town .oh never mind apparently you missed the part where the military stays around. so what? because I believe in personal responsibility? If you can help yourself and instead would rather sit back in your poverty getting just enough from the government to get by, I think you deserve to starve in the streets. Judge me for it. Ask me if I care. So basicly you would rather see machine gun toteing guards on every street corner? hmm sounds like a happy place your world and who do you think runs your socialist little world. or did you not take history?

AndrewAV Joined Sun 09/28/08 Posts: 1186	Sun 01/18/09 08:46 PM
Americans voted Bush into office. 911 happened. We got what we asked for. How is that related? 9/11 was on Clinton's watch.

madisonman Joined Sun 12/23/07 Posts: 4573	Sun 01/18/09 08:48 PM
Just out of curiosity why do you think that the wars bankrupted America? US military spending is only a small fraction of federal spending. The wars barely increased this spending by a few percent of the total budget. How can you blame the economic collapse on a minority of Federal spending? If the US goes bankrupt it is going to be social security, medicare, medicaid, assorted other welfare spending, and these stupid bailouts. Or maybe the global warming hysteria. I dont think the american people are so stupid as to give up social security medicare and medicaid and keep building aircrat carriers. If we do then we deserve what we get. According to this White House document, the U.S. military budget for the fiscal year 2003 was $379 billion, an increase of roughly $48 billion from the year before. This budget represents roughly 18% of the federal budget, and 53% of the total discretionary money controlled by the Congress and the Administration. The increase alone was larger than the annual military budget of any other country. From the $379 billion figure, the worldwide list drops precipitously to $34.8 billion for the United Kingdom, $29 billion for Russia, $27 billion for France, and $23.1 billion for Germany. Next year, the budget is expected to increase to roughly $400 billion This is what is on the books dont forget the black projects or other foreign aid, like the ten million we give to Israel every day while our own people go without. I think eliminating social security would be great. I'd rather not give money I'll never see again as it'll be bankrupt long before I retire. Medicaid is a waste as well in all but those cases that need it: children and the incapable. otherwise, get a job at target, they offer medical. just about any corporate job does. just because you have less is not a reason for me to give you more. The 'job' of the Federal government was intended to perform those duties that the free market is incapable of doing and are too large a scale for states to do. So basically, military should by far be the largest budget item. Social security is a wasteful program that nobody of my generation will ever see, even after dumping tens of thousands into it. we give more federal funds for 'infrastructure' and state projects than we do anything else. Cut the pork, cut the social programs and you're easily in the black. Iam emberresad a fellow american can be so , oh what is the word I am looking for.... anyhow when the gangs of hungry looters come to your town .oh never mind apparently you missed the part where the military stays around. so what? because I believe in personal responsibility? If you can help yourself and instead would rather sit back in your poverty getting just enough from the government to get by, I think you deserve to starve in the streets. Judge me for it. Ask me if I care. So basicly you would rather see machine gun toteing guards on every street corner? hmm sounds like a happy place your world and who do you think runs your socialist little world. or did you not take history? We were once the richest country on the planet. Look what 8 years of Bush has done. We have people who would rather see starveing hordes of people gunned down by the military. Ye gods how did this happen in 8 short years?

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Sun 01/18/09 08:51 PM
Wouldnt stop for a week if I started in here. Tuesdays coming!!!

AndrewAV Joined Sun 09/28/08 Posts: 1186	Sun 01/18/09 08:52 PM Edited by AndrewAV on Sun 01/18/09 08:53 PM
Just out of curiosity why do you think that the wars bankrupted America? US military spending is only a small fraction of federal spending. The wars barely increased this spending by a few percent of the total budget. How can you blame the economic collapse on a minority of Federal spending? If the US goes bankrupt it is going to be social security, medicare, medicaid, assorted other welfare spending, and these stupid bailouts. Or maybe the global warming hysteria. I dont think the american people are so stupid as to give up social security medicare and medicaid and keep building aircrat carriers. If we do then we deserve what we get. According to this White House document, the U.S. military budget for the fiscal year 2003 was $379 billion, an increase of roughly $48 billion from the year before. This budget represents roughly 18% of the federal budget, and 53% of the total discretionary money controlled by the Congress and the Administration. The increase alone was larger than the annual military budget of any other country. From the $379 billion figure, the worldwide list drops precipitously to $34.8 billion for the United Kingdom, $29 billion for Russia, $27 billion for France, and $23.1 billion for Germany. Next year, the budget is expected to increase to roughly $400 billion This is what is on the books dont forget the black projects or other foreign aid, like the ten million we give to Israel every day while our own people go without. I think eliminating social security would be great. I'd rather not give money I'll never see again as it'll be bankrupt long before I retire. Medicaid is a waste as well in all but those cases that need it: children and the incapable. otherwise, get a job at target, they offer medical. just about any corporate job does. just because you have less is not a reason for me to give you more. The 'job' of the Federal government was intended to perform those duties that the free market is incapable of doing and are too large a scale for states to do. So basically, military should by far be the largest budget item. Social security is a wasteful program that nobody of my generation will ever see, even after dumping tens of thousands into it. we give more federal funds for 'infrastructure' and state projects than we do anything else. Cut the pork, cut the social programs and you're easily in the black. Iam emberresad a fellow american can be so , oh what is the word I am looking for.... anyhow when the gangs of hungry looters come to your town .oh never mind apparently you missed the part where the military stays around. so what? because I believe in personal responsibility? If you can help yourself and instead would rather sit back in your poverty getting just enough from the government to get by, I think you deserve to starve in the streets. Judge me for it. Ask me if I care. So basicly you would rather see machine gun toteing guards on every street corner? hmm sounds like a happy place your world and who do you think runs your socialist little world. or did you not take history? We were once the richest country on the planet. Look what 8 years of Bush has done. We have people who would rather see starveing hordes of people gunned down by the military. Ye gods how did this happen in 8 short years? We also have psychos that think we should give up all war. There's nuts on both sides of the fence. and it didn't happen in 8 years... I've tried explaining the whole thing - you just refuse to listen. and once more: not bush's fault.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Sun 01/18/09 08:56 PM
Bush was the worst President in our history. At least as long as I remember! He needs to be prosecuted and jailed. I think he will be.