In a thought universe, saying that something "does not exist" only proves that it does exist, for if it truly did not exist, no one would even think of it.

That is the paradox of a thought universe.

Thats mind blowing

Well that's a thought ...

The point of the post is the idea that if it you can imagine it, then it exists.

If it does not exist in this physical world, it exists in the mind worlds which are thought worlds.

This physical universe is also a thought world, although it is more difficult to create things here (from thought) because of its density.

Hence it takes longer from the conception of an idea to its fruition in this reality. Some ideas will never make it into this reality.

It sure is.

I think that your statement lacks logic, therefore it has logic in a "thought world".

I was listening to a class by Deepak Chopra yesterday on this very subject. Very fascinating. He approaches all this from a very scientific perspective.

The only problem is that all thoughts are not simultaneously possible.

For example, if some people want to think of an all-powerful, all-encompassing, single creator of this this universe who hates heathens and loves to punish people and see them hurt, then that thought would need to be "true".

However, other people can imagine an all-powerful, all-encompassing, omniscient spirit who actually loves everyone unconditionally.

Clearly both of these thoughts cannot be simultaneously true because both are thoughts of an 'all-encompassinging' creator but they assign totally different personas to this supposedly all-encompassing creator.

One is a persona of hateful judgment, and the other is a persona of pure unconditional love.

They can't both be true even in a world of pure thought for the simple reason that both of these thoughts demand an "all-encomassing" creator that has drastically different personas.

Something's got to give even in worlds of pure thought.

All thoughts cannot simultaneously be true because some thoughts deny the existence of other thoughts.

It's as simple as that.

Of course this assumes that there is only one universe, and one reality.

Yes they are. Everything that can be thought of is simultaneously possible in a thought universe, because there are universes within other universes. I know this is true because I can imagine it.

That's what Dr. Chopra was basically saying.

Well, in that case then the thought that there is only one universe is a false thought.

Therefore there is at the very least one false thought that can be thought but can't be true.

So now we know that all thoughts cannot possibly be true even in a universe of pure thought.

I am not talking about what is true or not true according to someone's opinion or point of view, I am talking about what exists.

If you can only imagine only one universe, then only one universe exists for you.

But by the very introduction of the thought or idea of multiple universes, then the idea of only one universe becomes obsolete.

To even insist that there is "only one" universe proves that there are more than one universe, otherwise the denial of the other universes would never have been brought up.

That more than one universe was even mentioned, means that they were thought of therefore they exist in a thought universe.

Hmmmm......

I think, therefore whatever I think...

Compelling, intriguing, interesting...

Sounds reasonable to me.

I disagree. I have witnessed many stories of "thought creations" that do no exist. The fact that people thought them up does not make them exist. Exist for that person, maybe, but I believe even they know the existance is fantasy only. If I say that fairies do not exist even when faced with someone who does believe they exist does it then make them real?

If fairies did not exist, why would you need to say that fairies do not exist?

In some reality, removed from ours, perhaps in some different frequency or some other reality, they do exist. And they may exist in people's dreams. They exist in the mind and the imagination.

Yes, fairies exist.

They exist in a thought universe. That is the point.

... figments of imagination do not exist ...

They exist in a thought universe... that is the point.

Oh, I see what you mean...