Are you kidding? Look at what has been posted. It clearly refutes your bought and paid for right wing conservative Christian "data"

The listing of polar bears as threatened under the U.S. endangered species act (ESA) was announced by Dirk Kempthorne, Interior Secretary, on May 14, 2008. The official reason was loss of Arctic sea ice and predictions that the ice will continue to decrease. Although global warming is scientifically linked to loss of Arctic sea ice, the government did not mention it as the reason for the listing. Secretary Kempthorne, in fact, specifically said the listing would not prevent any sea ice from melting and that he would "make certain the ESA isn't abused to make global warming policies." The listing document said that because specific actions such emissions from a specific coal plant or oil well could not now be directly and scientifically tied to a specific amount of warming or ice loss, these emissions could not be controlled by the terms of the ESA. One environmentalist commented that this is like not controlling tobacco because no specific cigarette could be proved to have caused a specific cancer. The NGOs which proposed the listing are considering asking courts to rule on the government position on ESA and global warming limits. The reduction of the permanent Arctic sea ice by 14 percent since the 1970s is causing not only feeding and breeding difficulties, but also drownings and apparent cannibalism among bears. Government scientists have predicted rapid declines of bears in all but the most northern of the range.. Full text of the polar bear listing may be seen at www.doi.gov

Pushing the Boundaries of Life: Alaska

The listing of polar bears as threatened under the U.S. endangered species act will name global warming as the main threat, a first. The reduction of the permanent Arctic sea ice by 14 percent since the 1970s is causing not only feeding and breeding difficulties, but also drownings and apparent cannibalism among bears. The listing should be official by the end of 2007. For more information, see Center for Biological Diversity. Scientists are just beginning to see the effects of climate change on other Arctic wildlife. Caribou give birth at specific times and locations, making them susceptible to changes in weather and vegetation. Studies show that the tundra is now blooming slightly earlier and that it is affected by drier summers and heavier winter snow.

Biologist Gus Shaver at Toolik Lake, AlaskaBiologist Gus Shaver at one of his experimental plots at Toolik Lake, Alaska, monitors increased birch growth due to experimental fertilization and global warming. Shaver says the results of his experiment suggest that warming eventually will promote the growth of birch at the expense of sedges, forbs, and other plants that caribou and other wildlife favor as food sources. During an initial 15-year study (1981-95, which included the warmest decade on record) the sedge Eriophorum decreased by 30 percent while birch biomass increased, even in control plots. In 2002 Shaver reports the growth of birch has changed the ecology of tundra in some plots by covering and killing moss with large amount of leaf litter.

The great loss of ice from the Arctic, which includes not only the polar sea ice cover but also thawing glaciers and tundra permafrost, has other major implications. One of the most important is that dark open water and tundra absorb much more solar heat than white ice and snow. This is a "feedback loop" that will make changes happen faster.

Another large effect in the Arctic is a freshening of the Arctic Ocean. In late 2002, geochemist Bruce Peterson of the Marine Biological Lab in Woods Hole, MA, and his collaborators in the US and Russia, showed that the major rivers of Siberia and Eurasia are discharging much more water now than in the 1930s. This not only meets the predictions of an effect of climate change, but indicates the scale of change affecting the Arctic.

In late 2002, geochemist Bruce Peterson of the Marine Biological Lab in Woods Hole, MA, and his collaborators in the US and Russia, showed that the major rivers of Siberia and Eurasia are discharging much more water now than in the 1930s. This not only meets the predictions of an effect of climate change, but indicates the scale of another source of added fresh water into the Arctic.

So what is happening to all this fresh water from increased river flow, melting glaciers and shrinking sea ice? It mixes into the Arctic Ocean and the less salty Arctic water flows south around Greenland, to the source of some of the greatest ocean currents.

The interplay of ocean currents in the North Atlantic is very important to climate. Here, between Labrador and Scandinavia, the Gulf Stream brings a huge flow of water from the south, helping warm Europe as it gives up its heat. This water sinks as it cools, to flow back south again in the deep Atlantic. This plunging down of millions of tons of water per second helps propel what has been termed the Great Ocean Conveyor, a system of huge currents transferring heat throughout all oceans and influencing climate.

One key to this system is that the Gulf Stream water becomes more dense as it gives up heat, and it sinks. But the added fresher water coming down from the Arctic is much less dense, and floats on top of the North Atlantic.

Is there enough new fresher water from the Arctic to prevent the Gulf Stream water from sinking to help drive the conveyor of currents? According to recent studies by Dr. Ruth Curry and colleagues at Woods Hole Oceanographic Institute, there is more fresher water in the area than ever measured before. Already sinking rates in some locations are 20 percent less than in the 1970s.


The northern waters are getting fresher while the southern waters (near equator) are increasing in salinity. Curry says this indicates a change in the climate with more precipitation and ice melt in the north and much stronger evaporation in the south. In other words: "Global warming."

Scientists are concerned that the point at which the current Conveyor does begin to slow may be near. Other current research shows the Gulf Stream is not the prime moderator of European temperature (westerly winds play a larger role). Yet climate in Europe and NE North America could chill if the ocean current slows dramatically. This is the jumping off point for a recent Pentagon planning report about possible international unrest caused by climate change, and for the movie "The Day After Tomorrow." Scientists say disruptive change is coming -- but much more slowly than depicted in these scenarios.

Are you kidding? Look at what has been posted. It clearly refutes your bought and paid for Left wing Liberal non -Christian "data" ....

I know you claim you arent and you are open to more liberal views but sometimes your panties show in all honesty.

huh ?... ...oh well...

It was in response to your statment about being right wing, oh never mind. Get busy refuting some of this evidence then.

Great info Krimsa, I don't think it takes a liberal to understand the science.

I am sure many would disagree, but I have been a long time conservative, and this kind of head in the sand attitude makes me ashamed of the party.

Not that the republican party has really been about conservatism in the last 15 years anyway but hey.

Solar output? lol Read more.

http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/SORCE/sorce_03.php
http://earthobservatory.nasa.gov/Features/SORCE/sorce_04.php

These scientists show that at most the sun has contributed .06 degree hike. ( and this is debatable, the variance has actually shown a dropped in the last ten years, the real things to take away here is that measurable variance can only be done over hundreds of years not tens of years, however a drop in the last ten years coinciding with a global hike . . . hmmm)

The sun cannot account for the totality of climate change.

You cannot intelligently deny the fact that the climate is changing. You cannot ethically stick your head in the ground about it anymore. You cannot blame it on the sun.

Hats off to you good sir. I admire anyone who stands up to tyranny.

Thanks Jeremy. Interesting articles. One can only hope that some people wake up and take responsibility for themselves.