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Topic: Paradox anyone?
joad's photo
Thu 12/25/08 01:21 PM
Edited by joad on Thu 12/25/08 01:23 PM
-The fact that I now have free will was predetermined. (thanks JB:)

-The following statement is true: everything I say is false.

Others?

I guess you can tell, I don't have much to do today. :)


evian001's photo
Thu 12/25/08 01:33 PM
lets go stay.....lol..does tht count?

joad's photo
Thu 12/25/08 01:41 PM

lets go stay.....lol..does tht count?


for sure!

evian001's photo
Thu 12/25/08 01:42 PM
lol

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Thu 12/25/08 01:43 PM
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A paradox is a true statement or group of statements that leads to a contradiction or a situation which defies intuition...

no photo
Thu 12/25/08 09:33 PM
I am always telling the truth because I believe my lies.

SkyHook5652's photo
Fri 12/26/08 09:01 AM
Determinism is a personal choice.

RainbowTrout's photo
Fri 12/26/08 10:28 AM
Paradox? No thanks. I already had some. But I will take a glass of tea if you have some handy.

joad's photo
Fri 12/26/08 11:53 AM
Here's another that I more or less stole from someone on here:

We need to be self aware before we can be aware that we are aware.

I think the above is the same type of paradox, a catch-22, as this really common one:

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

onceuponatijm's photo
Fri 12/26/08 12:23 PM
Edited by onceuponatijm on Fri 12/26/08 12:24 PM
freedom from the desire for an answer is essential to the understanding of a problem....





J.Krishnamurti

wacky_yet_grounded's photo
Fri 12/26/08 12:38 PM
damned if you do, damned if you don't

rofl

joad's photo
Fri 12/26/08 12:56 PM

freedom from the desire for an answer is essential to the understanding of a problem....





J.Krishnamurti


I read "Talks w/ Students" and loved it.

This reminds of "look as if you do not see and listen as if you do not hear". Pretty sure I mangled that. Biblical, I think.

joad's photo
Fri 12/26/08 01:44 PM
Zen koans, or ridddles used for instruction, appear paradoxical due to tne nature of zen. This one, taken from here: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/awakening101/mumonkan.html is a double-bind:

Kyogen said, "It (Zen) is like a man (monk) hanging by his teeth in a tree over a precipice. His hands grasp no branch, his feet rest on no limb, and under the tree another man asks him, 'Why did Bodhidharma come to China from the West (India)?' If the man in the tree does not answer, he misses the question, and if he answers, he falls and loses his life. Now what shall he do?"

A koan that has made its way into common usage is:

"What is the sound of one hand clapping?"

onceuponatijm's photo
Fri 12/26/08 02:18 PM
shape clay into a vessel
the space within is empty
therefore
profit from what is there
and usefulness from what is not there

lao tzu


;o)

onceuponatijm's photo
Fri 12/26/08 02:19 PM
less is more

joad's photo
Fri 12/26/08 02:26 PM


freedom from the desire for an answer is essential to the understanding of a problem....





J.Krishnamurti


I read "Talks w/ Students" and loved it.

This reminds of "look as if you do not see and listen as if you do not hear". Pretty sure I mangled that. Biblical, I think.


I may have confused the above idea with the quote:

"I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand." Matthew 13:13

... which, ironically, is very nearly its opposite. Confusion- my steady state :)

onceuponatijm's photo
Fri 12/26/08 02:38 PM
lol

no photo
Sun 12/28/08 07:31 PM

Here's another that I more or less stole from someone on here:

We need to be self aware before we can be aware that we are aware.

I think the above is the same type of paradox, a catch-22, as this really common one:

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?



laugh laugh laugh laugh


I'm aware that I'm aware but who am I?

If I don't know who I am or why I am aware, yet I know that I am aware, but I don't know who I am, or why I am aware, am I self aware or just aware that I am aware?


Redykeulous's photo
Sun 12/28/08 07:45 PM
perception of the whole self



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Sun 12/28/08 07:49 PM

perception of the whole self




Describe "The whole self."


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