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Edited by
Lindyy
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Wed 12/03/08 07:35 AM
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Obama, a former lecturer on Constitutional Law, seems willing to ignore the Constitution is troubling, but not surprising in the least. Congress cannot take an appointment for which the pay has gone up during the time that person held office in Congress. The pay for the Secretary of State has gone up in the last year that which would prevent Hillary from getting appointed. We are screwed the nation's constitution is worthless.....Politics as usual...party affiliations does not matter... "Not surprising in the least." Isn't that how Quickstepper starts her threads?  UM,,, Winx....I do not think you are allowed to 'gossip' about other posters....just an FYI.....On this one I am a bit taken back that you would state this openly.......
Lindyy Well, it's true. That's how she talks about liberals. 2) Topics which are started with the intent to denigrate, belittle, disparage, or exclude another Mingle2 member or members, or specific groups or classifications of Mingle2 members, either directly named or through enough descriptive commentary to be possibly identified, are prohibited. Such topics will be instantly deleted and may result in the banning of the original poster. This includes following another poster around in the forums, posting about past events gone sour, divulging personal information, spreading gossip or rumors, posting email exchanges between users, etc. Keep the drama off the If it were me.....I would edit the remark....deleting it...... RE AS: Topics which are started with the intent to denigrate, belittle, disparage..... .....spreading gossip or rumors..... Just a FRIENDLY FYI..... |
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 Is everyone getting this confused with the fact that one cannot hold 2 positions at the same time...one of them has to be resigned from?
I brought that up earlier. After I brought it up, other points were raised and I'm confused now. OH here I go again....I honestly do not think hillary voted on the payraise with the anticipation of being appointed to Secretary of State...I do not think she even thought of it as she wanted to be president so badly......(it is the power she wants....not so much the money.....just had to throw that in there so people will not think I am changing my stand on issues  )
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Obama, a former lecturer on Constitutional Law, seems willing to ignore the Constitution is troubling, but not surprising in the least. Congress cannot take an appointment for which the pay has gone up during the time that person held office in Congress. The pay for the Secretary of State has gone up in the last year that which would prevent Hillary from getting appointed. We are screwed the nation's constitution is worthless.....Politics as usual...party affiliations does not matter... "Not surprising in the least." Isn't that how Quickstepper starts her threads? UM,,, Winx....I do not think you are allowed to 'gossip' about other posters....just an FYI.....On this one I am a bit taken back that you would state this openly.......
Lindyy Well, it's true. That's how she talks about liberals. 2) Topics which are started with the intent to denigrate, belittle, disparage, or exclude another Mingle2 member or members, or specific groups or classifications of Mingle2 members, either directly named or through enough descriptive commentary to be possibly identified, are prohibited. Such topics will be instantly deleted and may result in the banning of the original poster. This includes following another poster around in the forums, posting about past events gone sour, divulging personal information, spreading gossip or rumors, posting email exchanges between users, etc. Keep the drama off the If it were me.....I would edit the remark....deleting it...... RE AS: Topics which are started with the intent to denigrate, belittle, disparage..... .....spreading gossip or rumors..... Just a FRIENDLY FYI..... Point taken. |
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Edited by
littleredhen
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Wed 12/03/08 09:25 AM
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Obviously what the law was addressing was a situation where someone.... Umm $crew it...wouldn't it be swell if some people applied this level of scrutiny to the current administration? Oh wait...that would blow their Bush is swell theory right out of the water. Funny to hear a bunch of people who whole heartedly endorsed Bush breaking laws and hated lawyers, pointing out every statute and piece of administrative law that might hold up appointments or actions of the future administration in hopes of a challenge while they ignored Shrub pooping on the Constitution, individual rights, international treaties and the reputation of the United States of America. The same people who said lawyers are evil are now embracing them haha I love it. I have been posting for months about how many will hate it when the powers they willing gave Bush without question are used by other presidents. You reap what you sow. hahahaha It would not matter to me who the president or the cabinet appointee was or thier party affiliation. I did not vote for Bush or Obama, but that's beside the point. The point is the constitution is the basis of our government & it should be followed. This is the 1st I have heard ofthis situation. I am wondering why it was not resolved in the past with an amendment,or upheld instead of ignored. Anyway I believe no elected official should run for or accept appointment for another position in government until thier current term is over. that would mean they would have to do some actual work Weren't many Presidential candidates previous Senators or in the White House? that is not the issue the issue is she voted on the pay increase thus she is ineligible to hold the office Correct, DJ. I was very tired last night & again I appologize for confusing things. |
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Edited by
littleredhen
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Wed 12/03/08 09:14 AM
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Obviously what the law was addressing was a situation where someone.... Umm $crew it...wouldn't it be swell if some people applied this level of scrutiny to the current administration? Oh wait...that would blow their Bush is swell theory right out of the water. Funny to hear a bunch of people who whole heartedly endorsed Bush breaking laws and hated lawyers, pointing out every statute and piece of administrative law that might hold up appointments or actions of the future administration in hopes of a challenge while they ignored Shrub pooping on the Constitution, individual rights, international treaties and the reputation of the United States of America. The same people who said lawyers are evil are now embracing them haha I love it. I have been posting for months about how many will hate it when the powers they willing gave Bush without question are used by other presidents. You reap what you sow. hahahaha It would not matter to me who the president or the cabinet appointee was or thier party affiliation. I did not vote for Bush or Obama, but that's beside the point. The point is the constitution is the basis of our government & it should be followed. This is the 1st I have heard ofthis situation. I am wondering why it was not resolved in the past with an amendment,or upheld instead of ignored. Anyway I believe no elected official should run for or accept appointment for another position in government until thier current term is over. that would mean they would have to do some actual work Weren't many Presidential candidates previous Senators or in the White House? that is not the issue the issue is she voted on the pay increase thus she is ineligible to hold the office It was an issue on Red Hen's post that you quoted on and I did too. "Anyway I believe no elected official should run for or accept appointment for another position in government until thier current term is over." Winx that statement was my personal opinion, & I am sorry I was unclear & got off topic. |
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Edited by
littleredhen
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Wed 12/03/08 09:10 AM
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It will be interesting to watch how this plays out, Adj4u. they are gonna give it to her and be guilty of treason but nothing will be done nixion did it clinton did it and now obama will do it I don't understand why they put the pay raise situation in there. Why does it really matter? I think it matters because a Senator or congressman can vote to raise the pay of a post then take that post, leaving the seat to which he/she was elected in order to benifit from the raise. It is a safe guard against corruption. |
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Amendment XXVII of the U.S. Constitution.
Originally proposed September 25, 1789. Ratified May 7, 1992 "No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of representatives shall have intervened." This relates ONLY to the compensation for Senators and Representatives. What means is that if they vote themselves a pay raise it will not take effect until after the next election. There is NOTHING in the U.S. Constitution which prevents a Senator or Representative from resigning their office to take a position in the Executive Branch or Judicial Branch. The salaries that Cabinet Officers receive is determined by the budget. |
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Obama, a former lecturer on Constitutional Law, seems willing to ignore the Constitution is troubling, but not surprising in the least. Congress cannot take an appointment for which the pay has gone up during the time that person held office in Congress. The pay for the Secretary of State has gone up in the last year that which would prevent Hillary from getting appointed. We are screwed the nation's constitution is worthless.....Politics as usual...party affiliations does not matter... "Not surprising in the least." Isn't that how Quickstepper starts her threads? UM,,, Winx....I do not think you are allowed to 'gossip' about other posters....just an FYI.....On this one I am a bit taken back that you would state this openly.......
Lindyy Well, it's true. That's how she talks about liberals. 2) Topics which are started with the intent to denigrate, belittle, disparage, or exclude another Mingle2 member or members, or specific groups or classifications of Mingle2 members, either directly named or through enough descriptive commentary to be possibly identified, are prohibited. Such topics will be instantly deleted and may result in the banning of the original poster. This includes following another poster around in the forums, posting about past events gone sour, divulging personal information, spreading gossip or rumors, posting email exchanges between users, etc. Keep the drama off the If it were me.....I would edit the remark....deleting it...... RE AS: Topics which are started with the intent to denigrate, belittle, disparage..... .....spreading gossip or rumors..... Just a FRIENDLY FYI..... well share it with her and read it as well |
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Wrong...see original post
Amendment XXVII of the U.S. Constitution. Originally proposed September 25, 1789. Ratified May 7, 1992 "No law, varying the compensation for the services of the Senators and Representatives, shall take effect, until an election of representatives shall have intervened." This relates ONLY to the compensation for Senators and Representatives. What means is that if they vote themselves a pay raise it will not take effect until after the next election. There is NOTHING in the U.S. Constitution which prevents a Senator or Representative from resigning their office to take a position in the Executive Branch or Judicial Branch. The salaries that Cabinet Officers receive is determined by the budget. |
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Bush Bashers
Obama Bashers what's the difference? |
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it's not bashing anything except the Constitution
Bush Bashers Obama Bashers what's the difference? |
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it is the responsibitlity of a free people to hold those elected accountable for their actions
or lose their freedoms |
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it is the responsibitlity of a free people to hold those elected accountable for their actions or lose their freedoms 
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I think one difference is that in criticizing Bush's performance one can point to concrete facts and his specific performance in various circumstances or situations.
Many here can only say things like he isn't a citizen or I just don't like him when going after Obama. He is not yet president so criticizing his performance in the office is not yet possible. Believe me you will hear it from me when he does, and I am sure he will, things that are stinky. |
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I think one difference is that in criticizing Bush's performance one can point to concrete facts and his specific performance in various circumstances or situations. Many here can only say things like he isn't a citizen or I just don't like him when going after Obama. He is not yet president so criticizing his performance in the office is not yet possible. Believe me you will hear it from me when he does, and I am sure he will, things that are stinky. lmao |
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Now everyone gives a **** about the Constitution??What a laugh.
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Richard Nixon ran into the same difficulty when he appointed William Saxbe as Attorney General. The solution that was found became known as the "Saxbe Fix".
Congress passed another bill that reduced the salary of the AG so that Senator Saxbe would not benefit from the higher salary he had voted on. Similar situation occurred when Jimmy Carter appointed Edmund Muskie as Secretary of State and Bill Clinton appointed Lloyd Benson as Secretary of the Treasury. There is also the possibility that she may serve on a Pro Bono basis. So is the problem that a serving Senator is being nominated or the specific Senator that is being nominated? |
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Richard Nixon ran into the same difficulty when he appointed William Saxbe as Attorney General. The solution that was found became known as the "Saxbe Fix". Congress passed another bill that reduced the salary of the AG so that Senator Saxbe would not benefit from the higher salary he had voted on. Similar situation occurred when Jimmy Carter appointed Edmund Muskie as Secretary of State and Bill Clinton appointed Lloyd Benson as Secretary of the Treasury. There is also the possibility that she may serve on a Pro Bono basis. So is the problem that a serving Senator is being nominated or the specific Senator that is being nominated? I believe the answer is obvious..
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Obama, a former lecturer on Constitutional Law, seems willing to ignore the Constitution is troubling, but not surprising in the least. Congress cannot take an appointment for which the pay has gone up during the time that person held office in Congress. The pay for the Secretary of State has gone up in the last year that which would prevent Hillary from getting appointed. We are screwed the nation's constitution is worthless.....Politics as usual...party affiliations does not matter... It has been for a long time. The United States is a bankrupt corporation. It went bankrupt illegally. The constitution is meaningless. The dollar is worthless. Laws are simply statutes of the corporation since that happened. Not many people know this. |
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Obama, a former lecturer on Constitutional Law, seems willing to ignore the Constitution is troubling, but not surprising in the least. Congress cannot take an appointment for which the pay has gone up during the time that person held office in Congress. The pay for the Secretary of State has gone up in the last year that which would prevent Hillary from getting appointed. We are screwed the nation's constitution is worthless.....Politics as usual...party affiliations does not matter... It has been for a long time. The United States is a bankrupt corporation. It went bankrupt illegally. The constitution is meaningless. The dollar is worthless. Laws are simply statutes of the corporation since that happened. Not many people know this. The United States is not bankrupt, perhaps the banks and the government sux .... that's when people should do something about it..because that's what makes USA, the people in it. I think most people are waiting what the Obama presidency brings and see whether it's good or not..or how it plays out, don't worry, there are still plenty of patriots, even in these crappy times. 
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