Exactly! By george I think you've got it! But forget about "time" There is no "time." God is the eternal presence.

This is what I have been talking about when I speak of infinity. Infinity is the absence of all movement and all things. There is no time at the point of infinity.

Infinity is the infinite being.

It means "The state of being infinite."

It is HERE NOW, without future or past or time and space.

It is the beginning and the end of all things and yet it is no-thing. It is "I AM."

"JennieBean" if there is a beginning and end it becomes a point in time not infinity ...no matter how you try to explain it..as long as you add awareness it's impossible to omit time

if God was infinity then God would not be able to make decisions about creating ...once God creates something or makes a decision it takes time

"JennieBean" all you are doing is chanting scripture with no logical explanation ..God is infinite therefore it's true ...you may as well say the teletubbies is infinite

yes "JennieBean" it is up to the individual to decide for themselves what is real or not because in doing so doesn't require any proof that it is or isn't

...but once you spread it to others claiming that it is real without proof then it becomes deception and/or delusion

in others world you can believe what you want to believe ..but remember that's all it is..a belief ..

Well yeh, so what's your point funches?

Proof is only a matter of convincing someone else what to believe anyway.

We have been over this before funches, you have not been paying attention.

There is a beginning and an end to "THINGS."

Time is not created by awareness. Time is the perception of THINGS moving through SPACE. (or the perception of a process or event.)

Infinity has no time or space and no things. Infinity is no-thing, which is NO THINGS.

Yet infinity is aware of being self.

I am not going to repeat this to you again because if you don't get it, you just don't get it. You choose what you want to believe anyway.

I can't argue with what you choose.




If you don't get IT funches, you just don't get it.

If you don't realize that you are god, you don't realize it.

I am not chanting any scripture.

I am only telling you what I know based on the premise that I EXIST in the Here Now, which is INFINITY.



jB

I will simplify my logic to the ridiculous point.

I exist.

I am.

I only exist HERE NOW, (because time, --the future and the past --do not exist)

HERE NOW IS INFINITY.

Therefore I must be infinite.

Therefore I must be god.

sorry mistress


yes I agree


but mistress could you explain how you know that things are moving through space


but mistress how can infinity be no-thing but yet be aware of itself ...wouldn't that make infinity some-thing, aren't you again contradicting yourself


forgive me mistress for being logical


sorry that i'm bad mistress


you say that I'm God..but mistress first you said infinity is God ..please don't tease me mistress


sorry mistress I meant to say parrot-phrasing


so mistress do that mean you didn't exist last week

That is a very good question grasshopper. Bravo! I will tell you what I believe to be true but you are not expected to agree or believe what I believe. I am not saying this is fact, this is only what I believe.

The awareness of self is the "I AM" which exists in stillness. Stillness is the essence of infinity.

With "stillness" there are no vibrations, therefore there are no things.

"Things" are made up of vibrations.

All things that you see and touch are made up of vibrations and frequencies. Vibration and frequency is energy. In spacetime, everything constantly moves and vibrates and this is energy.

"Nothing" cannot exist as a "thing" but it is the no-thing of infinity and it is the awareness of being. and it exists Here Now, in stillness.

I will rephrase that for the spacetime observers. Both time and space are part of the illusion of this reality, but if you want to talk about that illusion of time and space I will.

People who insist that time is real perceive time by observing events, processes and things moving through space. This is in the tree dimensional holographic dream-world that we inhabit.

"JennieBean"..in total stillness everything is frozen nothing moves not even thought..so if "I AM" is self-aware in stillness then just the fact of being aware would constitute a thought and time is needed to generate thought which contradicts your theory ..

you can not be aware and omit time it's impossible ...and as long as time is in the equation it can not equate to eternalism or infinity

which means.."I AM" cease being eternal once "I AM became aware that "IT WAS"

so "JennieBean" wouldn't that mean that the vibrations energy and stillness was part of this holographic dream-world ..and how do you know that your holographic dream world isn't real but something is leading you to believe you are in a holographic dream world

The only thing I KNOW is that I exist.

Evidence points to the rest of my opinion.

"JennieBean" you may know that you actually exist.. but the rest is just something you believe because none of it is logical

and that evidence you speak of is called... String "theory"

You are still thinking in terms of "things." In total stillness there are no "things" to be "frozen."

When I was talking about freezing "things" in some other post I was talking about freezing the process of "time."

Being aware does not constitute a "thought." In the point of infinity there is nothing to think about. There is only awareness. Yet there are no things to be aware of. So it is an awareness of being.

jb

Yes, it is something I believe.

But it is also very logical to me.

I know nothing about string theory, but I will look into it.

Funches, why do you reason that it is impossible? What is your evidence of this?





If you are just trying to win your argument and you believe that nothing is infinite then please explain what you believe exists after infinity or "I Am" or "God" ceases to exist?

What then?

"JennieBean" if it's nothing to think about then how then how does it knows it's aware ..your double talking

"JennieBean" you have yet to give an example of something that exist in reality that is infinite

that why the term infinite is a concept to explain the possible vastness of something in reality and not that something in reality is actually infinite ...if there is something in reality that is actually infinite that exist beyond mind and/or faith then name it

If by "in reality" you are talking about the "illusion of reality" that is this holographic dream-like "reality" you call this universe, then you are correct, there is nothing ( NO THING) infinite within this "reality."

The only thing infinite is Infinity.

It knows it exists just like you know you exist.