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Topic: god may be aware... but not eternal
funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 11/08/08 04:43 PM
Yahweh could and can do anything. He could of did all of it in a blink of an eye. "Milesoftheusa" ..this is not about the power of Yahweh..it's about whether Yahweh is eternal which means void of time ..since it takes "time" to create or to blink an eye ..Yahweh is not eternal

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sat 11/08/08 04:51 PM
right on JB I'm sorry you guys can't handle the hard questions and wish to float around in fantasy for an infinity my only aim is to place thee on the path to true rightousness Have you accomplished that aim? the flock sometimes goes astray my brethren True. So have you accomplished the aim? well let's see "Skyhook"... do you now understand that your supposed "Out of body experience" you had claim to have had was actually just you having a psychotic episode I understand that that's your opinion. But I don't understand how it answers the question. "Skyhook" since you failed to supply any "New unknown Knowledge" during your suppose out of body experience that should have placed you on the path that you were just having a dream/psychotic episode did it/yes... or didn't it/no? the answer will supply you with the correct answer to your question

Milesoftheusa Joined Fri 10/27/06 Posts: 5122	Sat 11/08/08 07:46 PM
Yahweh could and can do anything. He could of did all of it in a blink of an eye. "Milesoftheusa" ..this is not about the power of Yahweh..it's about whether Yahweh is eternal which means void of time ..since it takes "time" to create or to blink an eye ..Yahweh is not eternal Ok thats not what i was responding to. You had spoke about the creation week and i was saying he has more power than that. But it does not matter either you believe he is and always has been eternal without beginning or end or you don't. It's a personal choice to believe or not not really a debateable subject. Shalom..Miles

SkyHook5652 Joined Sat 08/23/08 Posts: 4063	Sun 11/09/08 01:08 AM
right on JB I'm sorry you guys can't handle the hard questions and wish to float around in fantasy for an infinity my only aim is to place thee on the path to true rightousness Have you accomplished that aim? the flock sometimes goes astray my brethren True. So have you accomplished the aim? well let's see "Skyhook"... do you now understand that your supposed "Out of body experience" you had claim to have had was actually just you having a psychotic episode I understand that that's your opinion. But I don't understand how it answers the question. did it/yes... or didn't it/no? Tell ya what. If you answer my question, I'll answer yours.

Urbanphilosopher Joined Sun 10/26/08 Posts: 66	Sun 11/09/08 01:32 AM
To be aware is to be eternal. When moses asked Gos who He was, He responded, "I AM, that I AM". He didn't resond "I am, that I WAS" or "I am, that I WILL BE". Who God is, is the eternal presence of time. Past and future are inventions of mean. Everything else in nature know no time. The time is alays now, the time is always present. That is God.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sun 11/09/08 04:54 AM Edited by Krimsa on Sun 11/09/08 04:54 AM
So once you die, since you are no longer aware, does time stop?

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 11/09/08 05:06 AM
Yahweh could and can do anything. He could of did all of it in a blink of an eye. "Milesoftheusa" ..this is not about the power of Yahweh..it's about whether Yahweh is eternal which means void of time ..since it takes "time" to create or to blink an eye ..Yahweh is not eternal Ok thats not what i was responding to. You had spoke about the creation week and i was saying he has more power than that. But it does not matter either you believe he is and always has been eternal without beginning or end or you don't. It's a personal choice to believe or not not really a debateable subject. Shalom..Miles "Milesoftheusa" the evidence your words even Yahweh's own word displays logically why he is not eternal ...a personal choice to believe against logic is call fantasy

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 11/09/08 05:19 AM
right on JB I'm sorry you guys can't handle the hard questions and wish to float around in fantasy for an infinity my only aim is to place thee on the path to true rightousness Have you accomplished that aim? the flock sometimes goes astray my brethren True. So have you accomplished the aim? well let's see "Skyhook"... do you now understand that your supposed "Out of body experience" you had claim to have had was actually just you having a psychotic episode I understand that that's your opinion. But I don't understand how it answers the question. did it/yes... or didn't it/no? Tell ya what. If you answer my question, I'll answer yours. "Skyhook" you already answered the question in the above post but I guess I have to explain your own post to you skyhook said I understand that that's your opinion. since you said that it was only my opinion that your "Out of body experience" was just you having a pyschotic episode/dream then it's logical to conclude that you chose to remain on the path to fantasy instead of true rightousness which you should then have been able to deduce that I have already answered your question and that I didn't meet my aim to atleast place you on the right path

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 11/09/08 05:28 AM
To be aware is to be eternal. When moses asked Gos who He was, He responded, "I AM, that I AM". He didn't resond "I am, that I WAS" or "I am, that I WILL BE". Who God is, is the eternal presence of time. Past and future are inventions of mean. Everything else in nature know no time. The time is alays now, the time is always present. That is God. "Urbanphilosopher" ..."I AM, that I AM" can only be used by an individual to prove their own existence to themself ...it means they are aware or may exist not that they are eternal also you are supposely aware does that make you eternal and God

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 11/09/08 05:35 AM
So once you die, since you are no longer aware, does time stop? the dead wouldn't argue against that

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Sun 11/09/08 06:56 AM


funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 11/09/08 07:08 AM
"feralcatlady"...you get that off of ghosthunters? because that program been on television for about 20 years and they haven't found one ghost

feralcatlady Joined Mon 10/08/07 Posts: 35491	Sun 11/09/08 07:19 AM
Whatever...........lol but remember this my sweet funches...

SkyHook5652 Joined Sat 08/23/08 Posts: 4063	Sun 11/09/08 07:41 AM
right on JB I'm sorry you guys can't handle the hard questions and wish to float around in fantasy for an infinity my only aim is to place thee on the path to true rightousness Have you accomplished that aim? the flock sometimes goes astray my brethren True. So have you accomplished the aim? well let's see "Skyhook"... do you now understand that your supposed "Out of body experience" you had claim to have had was actually just you having a psychotic episode I understand that that's your opinion. But I don't understand how it answers the question. did it/yes... or didn't it/no? Tell ya what. If you answer my question, I'll answer yours. I didn't meet my aim Thank you for answering the question.

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 11/09/08 07:44 AM
Whatever...........lol but remember this my sweet funches... because once you awaken.. your dreaming about him as your hunk of hunk of burning love would stop

funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 11/09/08 07:47 AM
right on JB I'm sorry you guys can't handle the hard questions and wish to float around in fantasy for an infinity my only aim is to place thee on the path to true rightousness Have you accomplished that aim? the flock sometimes goes astray my brethren True. So have you accomplished the aim? well let's see "Skyhook"... do you now understand that your supposed "Out of body experience" you had claim to have had was actually just you having a psychotic episode I understand that that's your opinion. But I don't understand how it answers the question. did it/yes... or didn't it/no? Tell ya what. If you answer my question, I'll answer yours. I didn't meet my aim Thank you for answering the question. "Skyhook"..I answered it when I said the flock sometimes goes astray ...

SkyHook5652 Joined Sat 08/23/08 Posts: 4063	Sun 11/09/08 07:54 AM
right on JB I'm sorry you guys can't handle the hard questions and wish to float around in fantasy for an infinity my only aim is to place thee on the path to true rightousness Have you accomplished that aim? the flock sometimes goes astray my brethren True. So have you accomplished the aim? well let's see "Skyhook"... do you now understand that your supposed "Out of body experience" you had claim to have had was actually just you having a psychotic episode I understand that that's your opinion. But I don't understand how it answers the question. did it/yes... or didn't it/no? Tell ya what. If you answer my question, I'll answer yours. I didn't meet my aim Thank you for answering the question. "Skyhook"..I answered it when I said the flock sometimes goes astray ... Alright, then thank you for answering it in such a way that I could understand that you answered it.

Krimsa Joined Fri 04/25/08 Posts: 9960	Sun 11/09/08 08:05 AM


funches Joined Sat 12/01/07 Posts: 12948	Sun 11/09/08 08:53 AM
right on JB I'm sorry you guys can't handle the hard questions and wish to float around in fantasy for an infinity my only aim is to place thee on the path to true rightousness Have you accomplished that aim? the flock sometimes goes astray my brethren True. So have you accomplished the aim? well let's see "Skyhook"... do you now understand that your supposed "Out of body experience" you had claim to have had was actually just you having a psychotic episode I understand that that's your opinion. But I don't understand how it answers the question. did it/yes... or didn't it/no? Tell ya what. If you answer my question, I'll answer yours. I didn't meet my aim Thank you for answering the question. "Skyhook"..I answered it when I said the flock sometimes goes astray ... Alright, then thank you for answering it in such a way that I could understand that you answered it. which was the lesson I was trying to enlighten you about your parable laden posts ...it appears I have place you on the path to true rightousness

Jeanniebean Joined Wed 01/30/08 Posts: 40028	Sun 11/09/08 09:05 AM
Yahweh could and can do anything. He could of did all of it in a blink of an eye. "Milesoftheusa" ..this is not about the power of Yahweh..it's about whether Yahweh is eternal which means void of time ..since it takes "time" to create or to blink an eye ..Yahweh is not eternal Ok thats not what i was responding to. You had spoke about the creation week and i was saying he has more power than that. But it does not matter either you believe he is and always has been eternal without beginning or end or you don't. It's a personal choice to believe or not not really a debateable subject. Shalom..Miles Amen to that Miles. The individual observer decides what to believe and decides what is real. People can try to convince each other to decide differently, and that is what a debate is all about. But it is always up to the individual to decide.