Topic: Obama has been quoted
warmachine's photo
Fri 10/31/08 07:02 PM
Obama has been quoted as saying: "My friends, we live in the greatest nation in the history of the world. I hope you'll join with me as we try to change it."

talldub's photo
Fri 10/31/08 07:05 PM
Not according to snopes.com : http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/change.asp

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Fri 10/31/08 07:11 PM
GObamadrinker

writer_gurl's photo
Fri 10/31/08 07:12 PM
oops

warmachine's photo
Fri 10/31/08 07:20 PM
I don't think Lew Rockwell would be printing lies. But I'll look into it to be sure.


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Fri 10/31/08 07:27 PM
People want him. Thay are gonna get him. And more of the Globalist agenda.
obama is a cousin to both bush and chanie.

In a sense America isnt going to change much, Only intensify.

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Sat 11/01/08 03:39 AM
Uh...there's a big difference...the REPS would never allow us to be turned into what OBAMA will turn this nation into...a third world banana republic.

Stay tuned as the DEMS turn this country into a commie nation... You think you're being ignored now...LOL Just wait.

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Sat 11/01/08 04:17 AM
More fear-mongering....

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Sat 11/01/08 04:19 AM
Edited by OneMoreTimeAround on Sat 11/01/08 04:20 AM
This is just a tiny, minute, if you wish, example of how we base our decisions on what is fed to us thru the media. Do any of us really know the TRUTH? I don't think so. It's a race, with the intent to win, therefore, whatever it takes to win is what will be given to us as "information" to make our decisions.

CHANGE is needed, but IMO, it isn't going to start with the President, solely because of his limited power except in times of crisis. If we truly want CHANGE, we've got to start paying as much..or MORE..attention to who we're electing to congress. Those officials seem to have free rein anymore, no one scrutizes them, no one makes them accountable...they are there forEVER it seems and I don't think anymore, that they're there for the good of this country but for the lining of their own and their "friends" pocketbooks.

Until the GOOD of this nation as a whole is the first priorty instead of the almighty $1, we will keep on following this path that eventually leads to destruction. History, does at times, repeat itself.

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Sat 11/01/08 04:26 AM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sat 11/01/08 04:27 AM
I agree with you there...but somehow I do think that OBAMA & DEMS should take the helm...then people will see that the loonies in the party took over & common sense has not prevailed since the clinton years.

I worry about them hunkering down instead of showing grace in loss.

No accountability + no checks & balances + no accountability = govt. corruption & tryanny

Welcome to the DEM world of third world banana republicanism.

There will be no restraint with only one party.

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Sat 11/01/08 04:39 AM

I agree with you there...but somehow I do think that OBAMA & DEMS should take the helm...then people will see that the loonies in the party took over & common sense has not prevailed since the clinton years.

I worry about them hunkering down instead of showing grace in loss.

No accountability + no checks & balances + no accountability = govt. corruption & tryanny

Welcome to the DEM world of third world banana republicanism.

There will be no restraint with only one party.


and how have you drawn your conclusions? By media? I'm not dividing one party from another, guilt lies with BOTH.

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Sat 11/01/08 04:53 AM


I agree with you there...but somehow I do think that OBAMA & DEMS should take the helm...then people will see that the loonies in the party took over & common sense has not prevailed since the clinton years.

I worry about them hunkering down instead of showing grace in loss.

No accountability + no checks & balances + no accountability = govt. corruption & tryanny

Welcome to the DEM world of third world banana republicanism.

There will be no restraint with only one party.


and how have you drawn your conclusions? By media? I'm not dividing one party from another, guilt lies with BOTH.


Well it's not like I don't understand the other side. I have had many conversations with people of GOOD faith on this topic & we can all find common ground & things we can agree on &/or find a starting place to a road of recovery.

Then when I hear things like OBAMA kicking out the media for asking tough questions or them investigating Joe the Plumber how can anyone ask me to give them the benefit of the doubt? We also have history to prove that a two party system is better than one..we need checks & balances on both sides. We won't have that if DEMS take control. I see it...once they gain power there's no getting rid of them.

Maybe now people will see them for what they are...a bunch of lunatics. I wish I was wrong but their own words & actions condemn them.

I was saying on this board that we could have a coup with our vote...vote out EVERY incumbant but do you really think the DEM voters will do that? No way...they have blind rage & hatred to deal with. did you see the Stern man on the street interview? Blacks are voting strictly on race...they don't even know who his running mate is. They were told it was Sarah Palin & they said they loved her. Instead of smirking, some here should be feeling the same grief over this exploitation of ignorance running rampant in the nation.

Forgive my rant but when they lie about stealing elections & play on people's ignorance... this does not create a friendly environment. We have rampant voter fraud going on this year...it's out in the open & nothing is being done about it. OBAMA's campaign has contributed GREATLY to this mess. I'm suppose to just ignore that too???

Ah well... I really try but with the corruption I see... Look... when everything is said & done.. I hope all his supporters hopes come true...

...but if they don't...when they find out that the loonies are running things...what are they going to do? They will have to face that reality that we already know.

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Sat 11/01/08 05:00 AM
again, even with what you say and I'm NOT arguing with you...we are basing our decisions w/o being fully informed of the TRUTH. And in answer to your question about HS's interview, yes I heard it and I think it was biased and the interview was held in a place where they were pretty sure they'd get the exact results they broadcasted.

My point still is that the American Public is being deceived on BOTH sides. Reporters are being told what they can release, ratings are involved...it's not the TRUTH. And, personally I don't think anyone knows partly because if we did, perhaps Americans would rise up and overthrow a government that has ceased to work, not because the theory doesn't work, but because of those we trusted to carry thru with it.

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Sat 11/01/08 08:32 AM

Uh...there's a big difference...the REPS would never allow us to be turned into what OBAMA will turn this nation into...a third world banana republic.

Stay tuned as the DEMS turn this country into a commie nation... You think you're being ignored now...LOL Just wait.


In a higher phase of communist society... only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be fully left behind and society inscribe on its banners: from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
Karl Marx

democracy is the road to socialism :thumbsup:

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 11/01/08 10:12 AM


Uh...there's a big difference...the REPS would never allow us to be turned into what OBAMA will turn this nation into...a third world banana republic.

Stay tuned as the DEMS turn this country into a commie nation... You think you're being ignored now...LOL Just wait.


In a higher phase of communist society... only then can the narrow horizon of bourgeois right be fully left behind and society inscribe on its banners: from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
Karl Marx

democracy is the road to socialism :thumbsup:

We are not a 'democracy'...

We are SUPPOSED to be a democratic REPUBLIC.
We show signs of being a theocracy with a corporate agenda and delusions of grandure. (and possible dictatorship by committee).

AdventureBegins's photo
Sat 11/01/08 10:17 AM

Not according to snopes.com : http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/change.asp


He HE HEEE...

Snopes is owned by whom?... Creditors of Snopes are whom?...

Employees of Snopes have what political convictions at what percentage?...

Question all things... A lot of the snooping into Joe the Question asker was not done under direct command of the democratic party...

It was done by 'well intentioned' individuals that 'thought' they were doing the right thing for political reasons... (i.e. they put their brains in park and violated their own work ethics.)

If they can do it what makes you think someone working a Snopes wouldn't?

Quikstepper's photo
Sat 11/01/08 12:27 PM
Edited by Quikstepper on Sat 11/01/08 12:30 PM

again, even with what you say and I'm NOT arguing with you...we are basing our decisions w/o being fully informed of the TRUTH. And in answer to your question about HS's interview, yes I heard it and I think it was biased and the interview was held in a place where they were pretty sure they'd get the exact results they broadcasted.

My point still is that the American Public is being deceived on BOTH sides. Reporters are being told what they can release, ratings are involved...it's not the TRUTH. And, personally I don't think anyone knows partly because if we did, perhaps Americans would rise up and overthrow a government that has ceased to work, not because the theory doesn't work, but because of those we trusted to carry thru with it.




Well to me the voters who vote REP are more informed or they would continue to be in power. However, giving DEMS a free pass is even worse. They have never been held accountable for taking our rights, for corrupting our society & for being unapologetic about it too. They are a disgrace.

More mature people of GOOD faith won't tolerate that for long either. History does have a way of proving we are right as well. Part of me hopes OBAMA & the DEMS win cause once & for all. I'm tired of REPS being blamed for everything while DEMS get a free pass & maybe then people will see the DEM party for the lunacy it is.

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Sat 11/01/08 01:48 PM
Edited by Unknow on Sat 11/01/08 01:49 PM
QS said:Well to me the voters who vote REP are more informed or they would continue to be in power. That makes alot of sence!!!! Dosnt sound good for the reps, but it makes sence!!laugh

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Tue 11/04/08 02:35 PM


Not according to snopes.com : http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/change.asp


He HE HEEE...

Snopes is owned by whom?... Creditors of Snopes are whom?...

Employees of Snopes have what political convictions at what percentage?...

Question all things... A lot of the snooping into Joe the Question asker was not done under direct command of the democratic party...

It was done by 'well intentioned' individuals that 'thought' they were doing the right thing for political reasons... (i.e. they put their brains in park and violated their own work ethics.)

If they can do it what makes you think someone working a Snopes wouldn't?

ha ha ha, am well aware of this, my subtle point was that for everything posted (and quoted) on the web a counter point can be found!