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You know what i find funny.... The same people that cliam that the DNC "must" have done their homework on Obama being a naturalized citizen, and the same people that claim that his ties to Bill Ayers, is irrelivent, or his once practicing the muslim faith, or his ties for a hateful preacher, are the same ones attack the RNC for spending excess money on Palin... Interesting.... VERY interesting.... |
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Edited by
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Just remember... No matter how you slice it a POLL is a crossectional peek at the current OPINION of a selection of the active population. OPINION... not FACT... For facts you have to actuall dig up the data and look at it. Just because 10,000 sheep belive the dog will eat them does not mean the dog will actually eat them... This is what the dog counts on to control the herd. When you list the number of ads each canditate had... and then break that list down by the number of actual NEGATIVE ads vs POSITIVE ads you find that B.H. OBAMA did in FACT have 86% of his initial adds against the Republicans as NEGATIVE. While McCain in the same period did in FACT have only 43% of his ads as negative. Now of course they have hit the point where money makes a big diference. (Dems have an average of 4 times as much) this means that in order to be competetive Obama can afford NICER adds yet McCain can not... (it is well know in political circles that negative adds are more effective). I have read numerous times that McCain's negative ads are backfiring. People are tired of it. They turn me off. So...maybe they aren't so effective, are they? You didn't answer my question. Who do you think can do better? |
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Just remember... No matter how you slice it a POLL is a crossectional peek at the current OPINION of a selection of the active population. OPINION... not FACT... For facts you have to actuall dig up the data and look at it. Just because 10,000 sheep belive the dog will eat them does not mean the dog will actually eat them... This is what the dog counts on to control the herd. When you list the number of ads each canditate had... and then break that list down by the number of actual NEGATIVE ads vs POSITIVE ads you find that B.H. OBAMA did in FACT have 86% of his initial adds against the Republicans as NEGATIVE. While McCain in the same period did in FACT have only 43% of his ads as negative. Now of course they have hit the point where money makes a big diference. (Dems have an average of 4 times as much) this means that in order to be competetive Obama can afford NICER adds yet McCain can not... (it is well know in political circles that negative adds are more effective). thank you Adventure |
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Just remember... No matter how you slice it a POLL is a crossectional peek at the current OPINION of a selection of the active population. OPINION... not FACT... For facts you have to actuall dig up the data and look at it. Just because 10,000 sheep belive the dog will eat them does not mean the dog will actually eat them... This is what the dog counts on to control the herd. When you list the number of ads each canditate had... and then break that list down by the number of actual NEGATIVE ads vs POSITIVE ads you find that B.H. OBAMA did in FACT have 86% of his initial adds against the Republicans as NEGATIVE. While McCain in the same period did in FACT have only 43% of his ads as negative. Now of course they have hit the point where money makes a big diference. (Dems have an average of 4 times as much) this means that in order to be competetive Obama can afford NICER adds yet McCain can not... (it is well know in political circles that negative adds are more effective). |
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Obama is a puppet Goes from 1not even one term in the senate to trying to be pres. Edwards had stepped on some toes and got kick to the side. I would of voted for him. I am a true independent but this election is all about history making instead of the issues. The main issues everyone was jumping on is the war now you don't here nothing about it. The money crisis started under Clinton and just now riped. But we still bailed them out 
That is what piss's me off the most is we keep bail the bigwigs out at the cost of the future. I vote for ?????? the chicken Today I saw a video of Obama talking about the war. It just happened. He talked about the nuclear weapons. He spoke of the problems that we are going to be having. I think we're all pissed off at the bail out. All of the choices were bleak though. |
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You know what i find funny.... The same people that cliam that the DNC "must" have done their homework on Obama being a naturalized citizen, and the same people that claim that his ties to Bill Ayers, is irrelivent, or his once practicing the muslim faith, or his ties for a hateful preacher, are the same ones attack the RNC for spending excess money on Palin... Interesting.... VERY interesting.... He practiced that religion at one point. Facts state. Facts also question whether he gave up his citizenship to attend school in Indonesia. This is all besides my point. I don't care if he's a muslim either. My point is that when someone attacks Obama on something petty people are quick to say "it doesn't matter", but when someone attacks the RNC over something petty, they say "OMG this is rediculous!". Get what i am saying? How is it that Obama's ties to Bill Ayers is less important than the RNC spending excessive money in vain? Hos is this more legitimate than questioning whether Obama gave up his citizenship to go to school in Indonesia? See what i am saying? Either we pick good arguments, or good critiques, or we dont... This isn't a one way street. The dems have to play by the same rules they hold the repubs to... |
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You know what i find funny.... The same people that cliam that the DNC "must" have done their homework on Obama being a naturalized citizen, and the same people that claim that his ties to Bill Ayers, is irrelivent, or his once practicing the muslim faith, or his ties for a hateful preacher, are the same ones attack the RNC for spending excess money on Palin... Interesting.... VERY interesting.... That fact that he went to a Muslim school before the age of 8 means nothing to me. He is a citizen born in Hawaii. His preacher? I've seen black preachers before. They have their ways. Bill Ayers? The kid he knew? |
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Edited by
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You know what i find funny.... The same people that cliam that the DNC "must" have done their homework on Obama being a naturalized citizen, and the same people that claim that his ties to Bill Ayers, is irrelivent, or his once practicing the muslim faith, or his ties for a hateful preacher, are the same ones attack the RNC for spending excess money on Palin... Interesting.... VERY interesting.... He practiced that religion at one point. Facts state. Facts also question whether he gave up his citizenship to attend school in Indonesia. This is all besides my point. I don't care if he's a muslim either. My point is that when someone attacks Obama on something petty people are quick to say "it doesn't matter", but when someone attacks the RNC over something petty, they say "OMG this is rediculous!". Get what i am saying? How is it that Obama's ties to Bill Ayers is less important than the RNC spending excessive money in vain? Hos is this more legitimate than questioning whether Obama gave up his citizenship to go to school in Indonesia? See what i am saying? Either we pick good arguments, or good critiques, or we dont... This isn't a one way street. The dems have to play by the same rules they hold the repubs to... We don't know if he gave up his citizenship in Indonesia. There is no proof. He was born in Hawaii. There is proof of that. |
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I never said it's a one way street. I just started a debate on one thing, excessive spending... I never meant to imply that anything else wasn't important. You are quite welcome to debate Obama's ties to Ayers or his actual citizenship in another forum if you would like
 I just picked one thing here... Get what I'm saying??
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I never said it's a one way street. I just started a debate on one thing, excessive spending... I never meant to imply that anything else wasn't important. You are quite welcome to debate Obama's ties to Ayers or his actual citizenship in another forum if you would like I just picked one thing here... Get what I'm saying??
Well said.
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ORMOND BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Presidential candidate John McCain isn't happy about having to explain why the Republican Party has had to buy running mate Sarah Palin $150,000 in clothes, hair styling and accessories.
McCain was asked several questions on Thursday about the shopping spree - and he answered each one more or less the same way: Palin needed clothes and they'll be donated to charity. "She needed clothes at the time. They'll be donated at end of this campaign. They'll be donated to charity," McCain told reporters on his campaign bus between Florida rallies. Asked for details on how they'll be donated, McCain said, "It works by her getting some clothes when she was made the nominee of the party and it will be donated back to charity." Asked if he was surprised at the amount spent, McCain said, "It works that the clothes will be donated to charity. Nothing surprises me." McCain offered no further comment, except to say that the Republican National Committee doesn't buy his clothes. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PALIN_CLOTHING?SITE=FLPAP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-10-22-20-13-31 |
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Just remember... No matter how you slice it a POLL is a crossectional peek at the current OPINION of a selection of the active population. OPINION... not FACT... For facts you have to actuall dig up the data and look at it. Just because 10,000 sheep belive the dog will eat them does not mean the dog will actually eat them... This is what the dog counts on to control the herd. When you list the number of ads each canditate had... and then break that list down by the number of actual NEGATIVE ads vs POSITIVE ads you find that B.H. OBAMA did in FACT have 86% of his initial adds against the Republicans as NEGATIVE. While McCain in the same period did in FACT have only 43% of his ads as negative. Now of course they have hit the point where money makes a big diference. (Dems have an average of 4 times as much) this means that in order to be competetive Obama can afford NICER adds yet McCain can not... (it is well know in political circles that negative adds are more effective). I have read numerous times that McCain's negative ads are backfiring. People are tired of it. They turn me off. So...maybe they aren't so effective, are they? You didn't answer my question. Who do you think can do better? Neither... We would be (let me barf first) better off letting the bush stay in office than electing either one of these idiots to that high office. Neither of them has a clue as to what is facing US and the world. Neither of them gets it. |
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Both parties waste money on items.
There should be a cap of 1 mil spent on the campaign and all canditates get equal TV time. at the cost of the Networks. A third party has no chance of breaking the hold these two have.
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ORMOND BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Presidential candidate John McCain isn't happy about having to explain why the Republican Party has had to buy running mate Sarah Palin $150,000 in clothes, hair styling and accessories. McCain was asked several questions on Thursday about the shopping spree - and he answered each one more or less the same way: Palin needed clothes and they'll be donated to charity. "She needed clothes at the time. They'll be donated at end of this campaign. They'll be donated to charity," McCain told reporters on his campaign bus between Florida rallies. Asked for details on how they'll be donated, McCain said, "It works by her getting some clothes when she was made the nominee of the party and it will be donated back to charity." Asked if he was surprised at the amount spent, McCain said, "It works that the clothes will be donated to charity. Nothing surprises me." McCain offered no further comment, except to say that the Republican National Committee doesn't buy his clothes. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PALIN_CLOTHING?SITE=FLPAP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-10-22-20-13-31
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Both parties waste money on items. There should be a cap of 1 mil spent on the campaign and all canditates get equal TV time. at the cost of the Networks. A third party has no chance of breaking the hold these two have.
I say have them get help from local elementary school children for campaign ads and media ads. Children do say the darnest things but they speak the truth (most of the time) can we say that about politicians 
I want to know where they are donating this clothing, what charity will benefit and if it's local to me 
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ORMOND BEACH, Fla. (AP) -- Presidential candidate John McCain isn't happy about having to explain why the Republican Party has had to buy running mate Sarah Palin $150,000 in clothes, hair styling and accessories. McCain was asked several questions on Thursday about the shopping spree - and he answered each one more or less the same way: Palin needed clothes and they'll be donated to charity. "She needed clothes at the time. They'll be donated at end of this campaign. They'll be donated to charity," McCain told reporters on his campaign bus between Florida rallies. Asked for details on how they'll be donated, McCain said, "It works by her getting some clothes when she was made the nominee of the party and it will be donated back to charity." Asked if he was surprised at the amount spent, McCain said, "It works that the clothes will be donated to charity. Nothing surprises me." McCain offered no further comment, except to say that the Republican National Committee doesn't buy his clothes. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/P/PALIN_CLOTHING?SITE=FLPAP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2008-10-22-20-13-31
Ohh, wait...the kids are growing and need them more. |
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Both parties waste money on items. There should be a cap of 1 mil spent on the campaign and all canditates get equal TV time. at the cost of the Networks. A third party has no chance of breaking the hold these two have.
I say have them get help from local elementary school children for campaign ads and media ads. Children do say the darnest things but they speak the truth (most of the time) can we say that about politicians
I want to know where they are donating this clothing, what charity will benefit and if it's local to me
Then it would be fun and true, we can't have that now can we |
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Both parties waste money on items. There should be a cap of 1 mil spent on the campaign and all canditates get equal TV time. at the cost of the Networks. A third party has no chance of breaking the hold these two have.
I say have them get help from local elementary school children for campaign ads and media ads. Children do say the darnest things but they speak the truth (most of the time) can we say that about politicians
I want to know where they are donating this clothing, what charity will benefit and if it's local to me
Then it would be fun and true, we can't have that now can we we can't have that 
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Edited by
Mrtap
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Thu 10/23/08 10:43 AM
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Both parties waste money on items. There should be a cap of 1 mil spent on the campaign and all canditates get equal TV time. at the cost of the Networks. A third party has no chance of breaking the hold these two have.
I say have them get help from local elementary school children for campaign ads and media ads. Children do say the darnest things but they speak the truth (most of the time) can we say that about politicians
: I want to know where they are donating this clothing, what charity will benefit and if it's local to me
Then it would be fun and true, we can't have that now can we we can't have that
Damn I was almost happy How about mud wrestling instead of mud slinging, crap only one women:bigsmile
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Damn I was almost happy How about mud wrestling instead of mud slinging, crap only one women:bigsmile
Least that one woman is easy on the eyes, look at who we have to look at  can you imagine McCain and Obama mud wrestling...
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