Topic: What's the matter the truth make ya mad?
franshade's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:29 PM

neither one will give it to me. it hasnt even barely been a talking point in the whole election. but at least with mc cain i KNOW i wont be discriminated against beyond being a citizen



thank you for your service, however, please take a moment to realize, right now every candidate has something to win/lose (the election). They are both saying the things (people) want to hear. There are absolutely no guarantees in what (either) will do when they obtain office.

Stay neutral, do your research, vote for your best interests.

It's really not a color issue, rather the issue is whether either is or will become capable to run this country fairly, who best can represent this great nation. JMO

*disclaimer - above is solely my opinion waving

bergeia's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:30 PM
ok so what people want to hear is NOt veterans being cared for?

as for color it IS an issue if hes racist.

franshade's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:32 PM

ok so what people want to hear is NOt veterans being cared for?

as for color it IS an issue if hes racist.


all I said, take their campaigns with a grain of salt, what they promise today is not what they will deliver tomorrow.

also, just my opinion waving

bergeia's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:35 PM
well i know almost none of it will happen. between lying and congress nothing good happens,lol.


still that doesnt mean i shouldnt be able to expect a little honesty and integrity does it?

franshade's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:40 PM
bergeia - I too expect people to be honest and show integrity, doesnt mean we get what we want.

flowerforyou

No1sLove's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:40 PM


neither one will give it to me. it hasnt even barely been a talking point in the whole election. but at least with mc cain i KNOW i wont be discriminated against beyond being a citizen



thank you for your service, however, please take a moment to realize, right now every candidate has something to win/lose (the election). They are both saying the things (people) want to hear. There are absolutely no guarantees in what (either) will do when they obtain office.

Stay neutral, do your research, vote for your best interests.

It's really not a color issue, rather the issue is whether either is or will become capable to run this country fairly, who best can represent this great nation. JMO

*disclaimer - above is solely my opinion waving
This message is approved by No1slove. laugh laugh laugh

bergeia's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:41 PM
then why do we vote them in? why doesnt the country say its had enough instead of always picking the "lesser" of 2 evils? country has got no balls anymore,lol

franshade's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:41 PM



neither one will give it to me. it hasnt even barely been a talking point in the whole election. but at least with mc cain i KNOW i wont be discriminated against beyond being a citizen



thank you for your service, however, please take a moment to realize, right now every candidate has something to win/lose (the election). They are both saying the things (people) want to hear. There are absolutely no guarantees in what (either) will do when they obtain office.

Stay neutral, do your research, vote for your best interests.

It's really not a color issue, rather the issue is whether either is or will become capable to run this country fairly, who best can represent this great nation. JMO

*disclaimer - above is solely my opinion waving
This message is approved by No1slove. laugh laugh laugh


sunshine you're back!!! missed ya!!!!

franshade's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:44 PM

then why do we vote them in? why doesnt the country say its had enough instead of always picking the "lesser" of 2 evils? country has got no balls anymore,lol


yikes, quite a visual there :laughing:

we vote them in because out of the millions of people that live in the United States, those are the two remaining candidates that applied for the position and have made it so far.

you can always elect to write in your candidate
waving




Dragoness's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:44 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Mon 10/06/08 01:46 PM

neither one will give it to me. it hasnt even barely been a talking point in the whole election. but at least with mc cain i KNOW i wont be discriminated against beyond being a citizen





Obama is part white but besides that he has not shown one iota of racism in his whole campaign.

No1sLove's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:46 PM




neither one will give it to me. it hasnt even barely been a talking point in the whole election. but at least with mc cain i KNOW i wont be discriminated against beyond being a citizen



thank you for your service, however, please take a moment to realize, right now every candidate has something to win/lose (the election). They are both saying the things (people) want to hear. There are absolutely no guarantees in what (either) will do when they obtain office.

Stay neutral, do your research, vote for your best interests.

It's really not a color issue, rather the issue is whether either is or will become capable to run this country fairly, who best can represent this great nation. JMO

*disclaimer - above is solely my opinion waving
This message is approved by No1slove. laugh laugh laugh


sunshine you're back!!! missed ya!!!!
I just jump online when I can. Been moving around a lot and having bad luck with internet access. I miss you too hon! (((Fran))) flowerforyou happy

no photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:46 PM

neither one will give it to me. it hasnt even barely been a talking point in the whole election. but at least with mc cain i KNOW i wont be discriminated against beyond being a citizen



How do you think you're going to get discriminated against if Obama wins?

Lily0923's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:47 PM

yeah i know. just look it up. i find it hard to believe there wasnt a church near him that preached tolerance. he really did go to a bad church. and for a religious person, a preacher is next to the mouth of god.

EDIT: link:http://www.nypost.com/seven/03182008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/minister_mess_102490.htm


The writer for that article...

Here's his bio

http://author.nationalreview.com/bio/?q=MjE1NQ==

I'm not buying alot of what he's selling here. He works directly for Fox News... Give me a break.

no photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:48 PM

ok so what people want to hear is NOt veterans being cared for?

as for color it IS an issue if hes racist.


Why do you think he's racist? Because a minister he was associated with in the past was? Does that mean if anyone was associated with someone who is racist that they're racist as well?

bergeia's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:49 PM


ok so what people want to hear is NOt veterans being cared for?

as for color it IS an issue if hes racist.


Why do you think he's racist? Because a minister he was associated with in the past was? Does that mean if anyone was associated with someone who is racist that they're racist as well?


i mean he went to a church and let this man interpret god's will ot him. and his pastor stood there and blamed sept 11 on america, said we deserved it and told the congregation white america got black men addicted to drugs? WTF? lol. ntm he went to that church for 2 decades. thats a long time ot be hearing the same thing over and over from someone you TRUST and listen to.

no photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:51 PM



ok so what people want to hear is NOt veterans being cared for?

as for color it IS an issue if hes racist.


Why do you think he's racist? Because a minister he was associated with in the past was? Does that mean if anyone was associated with someone who is racist that they're racist as well?


i mean he went to a church and let this man interpret god's will ot him. and his pastor stood there and blamed sept 11 on america, said we deserved it and told the congregation white america got black men addicted to drugs? WTF? lol. ntm he went to that church for 2 decades. thats a long time ot be hearing the same thing over and over from someone you TRUST and listen to.


You do realize there are people out there who can think for themselves, right? Just because someone tells you something, it doesn't mean it's going to be what you think. Now, no one can stop you from thinking he's racist. But, there's been nothing to show that's true.

bergeia's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:51 PM
well thank you dragoness, i know we butt heads alot, but geez, it REALLY sounded like you were saying i was a white supremacist or somehting, ntm youve insulted me once or 2x before,lol.


i just think if he got spoon fed anti white slander for over 20 years some of it might have stuck.

Lily0923's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:52 PM



ok so what people want to hear is NOt veterans being cared for?

as for color it IS an issue if hes racist.


Why do you think he's racist? Because a minister he was associated with in the past was? Does that mean if anyone was associated with someone who is racist that they're racist as well?


i mean he went to a church and let this man interpret god's will ot him. and his pastor stood there and blamed sept 11 on america, said we deserved it and told the congregation white america got black men addicted to drugs? WTF? lol. ntm he went to that church for 2 decades. thats a long time ot be hearing the same thing over and over from someone you TRUST and listen to.


Uhm, news flash here kiddo, so did Jerry Falwell.

Dragoness's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:53 PM



ok so what people want to hear is NOt veterans being cared for?

as for color it IS an issue if hes racist.


Why do you think he's racist? Because a minister he was associated with in the past was? Does that mean if anyone was associated with someone who is racist that they're racist as well?


i mean he went to a church and let this man interpret god's will ot him. and his pastor stood there and blamed sept 11 on america, said we deserved it and told the congregation white america got black men addicted to drugs? WTF? lol. ntm he went to that church for 2 decades. thats a long time ot be hearing the same thing over and over from someone you TRUST and listen to.


Old news here but the preacher does not MAKE Obama believe what he says or practice it for that matter. Many preachers say alot of off the wall stuff to their congregations but that does not make the whole congregation guilty of what the preacher preached.

bergeia's photo
Mon 10/06/08 01:54 PM
granted but the man was his PERSONAL religious "liason" i think thats a very sacred and personal thing, ntm the amount of stuff someone with even a little intelligence could implant in a short time with that level of trust.