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Topic: Was Jesus a Buddhist?
DeusExMachina's photo
Thu 10/02/08 02:13 PM
You cant be Christian and Buddhist two separate doctrines at their very foundation. There can only be real truth. So one of the doctrines is wrong. You can’t pick and choose and then call yourself a Buddhist Christian that’s like a Nazi Jew.

http://www.gospelway.com/religiousgroups/buddhism.php

enderra's photo
Thu 10/02/08 02:16 PM

You cant be Christian and Buddhist two separate doctrines at their very foundation. There can only be real truth. So one of the doctrines is wrong. You can’t pick and choose and then call yourself a Buddhist Christian that’s like a Nazi Jew.

http://www.gospelway.com/religiousgroups/buddhism.php
Sorry,you need to leave this to us adults now. Come back when you have lived and can comprehend what we are talking about.

DeusExMachina's photo
Thu 10/02/08 02:29 PM
ha ha are you serious?
This is the most moronic straw argument I’ve ever been apart of. By the way Christianity is spawn from Eastern philosophy, which was totally alien to the west so I guess westerners somehow wrapped their brains around it. You have a really warped since of reality and truth, which thanks to go is you’re free given right. Next your going to tell me that peanut butter and jelly are the same thing and you can make such nonsensical notions because you’re a god and all paths lead to enlightenment heck maybe next you wont even believe we exist.

Jess642's photo
Thu 10/02/08 02:31 PM
Edited by Jess642 on Thu 10/02/08 02:31 PM

ha ha are you serious?
This is the most moronic straw argument I’ve ever been apart of. By the way Christianity is spawn from Eastern philosophy, which was totally alien to the west so I guess westerners somehow wrapped their brains around it. You have a really warped since of reality and truth, which thanks to go is you’re free given right. Next your going to tell me that peanut butter and jelly are the same thing and you can make such nonsensical notions because you’re a god and all paths lead to enlightenment heck maybe next you wont even believe we exist.




Is that a bug up your butt, or do you always have challenges sitting?:wink:

Mate.... you appear to be very solid in your belief structures.... good for you.

Having the open mind to look at comparables is a gift...shame you were away that day.



enderra's photo
Thu 10/02/08 02:32 PM

ha ha are you serious?
This is the most moronic straw argument I’ve ever been apart of. By the way Christianity is spawn from Eastern philosophy, which was totally alien to the west so I guess westerners somehow wrapped their brains around it. You have a really warped since of reality and truth, which thanks to go is you’re free given right. Next your going to tell me that peanut butter and jelly are the same thing and you can make such nonsensical notions because you’re a god and all paths lead to enlightenment heck maybe next you wont even believe we exist.

Until you actually study something it is better to kept you mouth shut else you show your ignorance. Someting you have been repeating over and over again on this thread, Pity you don't realize it.

no photo
Thu 10/02/08 02:40 PM

the only true god


and who would that be?
huh

Religion is the impotence of the human mind to deal with occurrences it cannot understand.
Karl Marx

SkyHook5652's photo
Thu 10/02/08 02:50 PM
Edited by SkyHook5652 on Thu 10/02/08 02:53 PM
If we're doing favorite religious definitions, here's mine: "God - that which man thinks he cannot be."

Jess642's photo
Thu 10/02/08 03:14 PM
God- the impossible to reach one.

God- the superiority you have, when you don't have superiority.


no photo
Thu 10/02/08 04:08 PM
Edited by Bushidobillyclub on Thu 10/02/08 04:18 PM

Have you ever read the bible?
He opposed laws created by man not the laws created by god. "Ye cast the first stone who has not sinned" He taught the same message of faith not the religious dogma that god never created.Jesus never opposed the ten commandments.

Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I did not come to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, till heaven and earth pass, not one letter, not a dot, will dissappear from the law until all that must happen has happened. Anyone therefore who sets aside even the le ast of the law's demands and teaches others to do the same, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them. the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. (Matt. 5:1 7-19)

"Anyone therefore who sets aside even the le ast of the law's demands and teaches others to do the same, he shall be called the least in the Kingdom of heaven"

Then you better not where any polyester . . . Or underwear . . . Or work on Sunday, and you better help me stone some unruly kids in my neighborhood I have a bad back and cant carry enough stones! If not then we may wait in line at the heavenly deli, we will be the least, which I can only assume means we dont get the good seats . . . DAMMIT I WANTED THE GOOD SEATS TOSS THE ELASTIC BAND UNDIES, BURN THE POLY SHIRT AND GET UR STONES SON!


Jesus the man, was perhaps an insightful, altruistic human being, who attempted to share a simple observation....

....as did a bloke who was called a buddha.

it sucks how propaganda gets in the way..grumble

Words of wisdom, I like the way you think good lady!

I would also like to say thank you to the OP, this was a very interesting read!

Plainome's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:43 PM

You cant be Christian and Buddhist two separate doctrines at their very foundation. There can only be real truth. So one of the doctrines is wrong. You can’t pick and choose and then call yourself a Buddhist Christian that’s like a Nazi Jew.

http://www.gospelway.com/religiousgroups/buddhism.php


Have you studied Buddhism???

Eljay's photo
Thu 10/02/08 08:55 PM


Jesus taught the same principals as Yahweh in the torah. Jesus came to fulfill the prophecies and bring eternal salvation teaching the same message from torah. God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow the message never changed so the Old Testament has everything to do with Jesus’s teachings


Jesus was diametrically opposed to what the Old Testament taught.

He taught just the opposite.

The Old Testament taught to stone sinners to death.

Jesus opposed that view.

The Old testament taught to seek revenge "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth".

Jesus taught forgiveness, "Turn the other cheek".

There's no way that Jesus could have been in incarnation of the God of Abraham (or even his 'son' or anything like that).

The idea that Jesus was the same as the God of Abraham is truly laughable.

He disagreed with the Old Testament enitirely!


I find that quite facinating since it was through Jesus that the old Testament prophets were told what to write. I guess that's the part of the bible that you skipped over.

Plainome's photo
Fri 10/03/08 07:48 PM



Jesus taught the same principals as Yahweh in the torah. Jesus came to fulfill the prophecies and bring eternal salvation teaching the same message from torah. God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow the message never changed so the Old Testament has everything to do with Jesus’s teachings


Jesus was diametrically opposed to what the Old Testament taught.

He taught just the opposite.

The Old Testament taught to stone sinners to death.

Jesus opposed that view.

The Old testament taught to seek revenge "An eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth".

Jesus taught forgiveness, "Turn the other cheek".

There's no way that Jesus could have been in incarnation of the God of Abraham (or even his 'son' or anything like that).

The idea that Jesus was the same as the God of Abraham is truly laughable.

He disagreed with the Old Testament enitirely!


I find that quite facinating since it was through Jesus that the old Testament prophets were told what to write. I guess that's the part of the bible that you skipped over.


Well, not really.......what you are missing is that we (those of us who are considering that Jesus may in fact have gotten some of his principle from Buddhism) are not consider the Bible to be of anymore authority than any other "book", than logic, and deduction based on logic and information available. If the words Jesus' was quoted to have said..........were indeed the things he taught..........then it is not so far fetched. However, to know that the Bible was indeed written by humans.........it isn't necessarily a concrete black and white authority for a lot of us.

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Fri 10/03/08 09:07 PM


Jesus abolished the Eye for an Eye doctrine because it was never a divine order. It was a man made moralistic law.


So then you agree that the Old Testament is just man made garbage?

There are two parts of the bible, and 90% of it is the Old Testament. Christians sure are quick to disown 90% of their perfect, inerrant book.

If we were released from the laws of the Old Testament by the blood of Jesus Christ when He died on the cross, as many Christians assert, then why do so many Christians still use Old Testament laws on the rest of us? Consider Leviticus 20:13, where we are told that homosexuality is an abomination, and that they "shall surely be put to death". How come we hear about that, and other Old Testament laws so much? They are sure quick to whip out Old Testament laws when it is convenient for them to do so.

Christians say "Well, it was different in those days..." Alright then-- how? How was it different, so that cruel wars of extermination and the slaughter of innocent children were perfectly acceptable to Christians?

I can understand why you, and other Christians, would want to divorce the New Testament from the bloody Old Testament. You would HAVE TO, to be able to maintain any kind of moral rectitude. But honestly, it cannot be done.

The very first chapter of the very first book of the New Testament lists the geneaology of Jesus back to Abraham.

In Matthew Chapter 17, Jesus speaks to Old Testament figures Moses and Elijah, who's figures appeared before him.

Matthew 24:37 is an undeniable link to the brutality of the Old Testament, where Jesus compares his second coming to the destruction of the Great Flood that killed the world's population.

In the New Testament Jesus makes constant refrerences to "scripture". In Matthew 22:29 Jesus says: "You are in error, because you do not know the scriptures, or the power of God." Now, just what WERE these scriptures that Jesus was making reference to? The New Testament? I don't think so. At the time there was no such thing as a New Testament! There were only the scriptures of bloodthirsty villians like Moses. Every reference to "scripture" in the New Testament establishes one more link to the Old Testament. How many times does the New Testament refer to Old Testament "scriptures"? 52 times.

In the New Testament, Abraham is referred to 68 times, the ancient Israelites are mentioned 73 times, Jacob 26 times, Issac 20 times, Elijah 29 times, Isiah 22 times, Noah 8 times, King David is mentioned 58 times. How about this-- the name Mary (not just the Virgin Mary, but ALL Marys) is mentioned 54 times in the New Testament. The name Moses, on the other hand, appears 80 times! You think these numbers don't establish an important connection? You don't think that Jesus held that the teachings of Moses were important?

How about this. Jesus gives an absolute endorsement of the teachings and laws of Moses. "If you believe Moses, you would believe me, for he wrote about me. But since you do not believe what he wrote, how are you going to believe what I say?" John 5:45

Are you going to sit there and tell me that the New Testament is not inexorably linked in the deepest ways to the Old Testament?

Do you deny that, according to your bible, Jesus is the one and only same personage as the God of the Old Testament? Did Jesus condemm ANY of his father's massacres? No. In Matt 5:48 he says "Be ye therefore perfect, even as I or your Father in Heaven is perfect."

Do you think Jesus would have questioned any of his father's actions, like the many acts of genocide that litter the pages of the Old Testament? No. Remember what Jesus said when he gave the Lord's Prayer to his followers- "Our Father who art in heaven... thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven."

Do you think Jesus would have ever disobeyed his father's commands, like when he ordered that his servants should "kill everyone that breathes" upon their entry to the Promised Land? No. In John chapter 10 verse 30, Jesus said: "I and the Father are one." Jesus would have been swinging a sword, hacking nonviolent men, women and children to death, right along side of Joshua and his armies of Israelites! Imagine that. Jesus, the Prince of Peace, splitting a child in two with his blood-drenched sword.

In John 1:1, we read "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." In verse 14, we read: "The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us." We are told explicitly that Jesus Christ IS THE GOD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT! You probably already accept this. But, logical extension, you must also accept therefore that it was Jesus Christ who ordered the Israelites to slaughter millions of defenseless men, women and children in the conquest of Canaan, it was Jesus Christ who killed every firstborn child in Egypt, it was Jesus Christ who ordered king Saul to butcher thousands of children and babies in the genocide of the Amalakites, it was Jesus Christ who ordered the Israellites to capture and mass-rape 32,000 young girls of the Midianite tribe, after killing their families, it was Jesus Christ who struck dead 50,000 innocent people at Beshemish for merely LOOKING at the ark of the covenant, it was Jesus Christ who caused the painful asphixiation of every man, woman, child and animal on the face of the earth during the flood of Noah, and it was Jesus Christ who condemmed every person ever born to a state of eternal suffering, all because 6000 years ago a curious and naive woman ate a piece of fruit.

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