Topic: All I wanted was bread and milk...
franshade's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:28 AM
Lily - what a way to start your day! but glad it happened as it did, imagine if you weren't present and the kid did CPR on that lady... yikes.

things happen for a reason and today your reason was to help a stranger

flowerforyou

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Thu 10/02/08 07:29 AM


Good thing you were there before that kid that wanted to do CPR......I learned in my First Responder training you can actually hurt someone with CPR if they don't NEED it.....

just 2 cents worth


Rule of thumb if someone is breathing they HAVE a pulse.

If there is the faintest of breath or pulse you cannot do CPR.


Absolutely right you are!!!!
That's what I learned.

Goofball73's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:31 AM
"Just woke up"

So...what did I miss?

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Thu 10/02/08 07:32 AM
flowers

{{{Lily0923}}}

:thumbsup:
Of course, you did everything right....

As a Former Firefighter/EMT and First-responder/Safety Instructor (Including CPR for The American Heart Ass'n) I too, have been in those types of situations.... Than GOD you were there...


slaphead Sorry about your Milk and Bread....

Bro Clark

Lily0923's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:34 AM

Lily - what a way to start your day! but glad it happened as it did, imagine if you weren't present and the kid did CPR on that lady... yikes.

things happen for a reason and today your reason was to help a stranger

flowerforyou


There's nothing you can do for someone who is seizing, just make sure they don't hurt themselves more, she fell hard too, I'll bet she broke something in her fall. Poor lady.

wiley's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:37 AM

Good thing you were there before that kid that wanted to do CPR......I learned in my First Responder training you can actually hurt someone with CPR if they don't NEED it.....

just 2 cents worth


Hell, you can hurt somebody with CPR even when they do need it. People break ribs all the time...


Lily0923's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:38 AM
I'm glad to see you back Wiley...:banana:

wiley's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:39 AM
((((Lily)))) flowers

Yeah, I'm going to try to be a good boy for now. Whatever that means... laugh

Lily0923's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:40 AM

((((Lily)))) flowers

Yeah, I'm going to try to be a good boy for now. Whatever that means... laugh


When you find out let me know huh?

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Thu 10/02/08 07:41 AM


Good thing you were there before that kid that wanted to do CPR......I learned in my First Responder training you can actually hurt someone with CPR if they don't NEED it.....

just 2 cents worth


Hell, you can hurt somebody with CPR even when they do need it. People break ribs all the time...




This is true...but I ALSO learned that broken ribs or even a broken sternum was trivial to a non-beating heart. I was just refering to someone who didn't need CPR. Sorry

franshade's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:42 AM

((((Lily)))) flowers

Yeah, I'm going to try to be a good boy for now. Whatever that means... laugh


whatever you do, don't become a 'nice guy' winking

wiley's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:43 AM



Good thing you were there before that kid that wanted to do CPR......I learned in my First Responder training you can actually hurt someone with CPR if they don't NEED it.....

just 2 cents worth


Hell, you can hurt somebody with CPR even when they do need it. People break ribs all the time...




This is true...but I ALSO learned that broken ribs or even a broken sternum was trivial to a non-beating heart. I was just refering to someone who didn't need CPR. Sorry


Oh I know and yeah a broken rib is insignificant next to being dead. But hey, just pointing out that **** happens.

wiley's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:43 AM


((((Lily)))) flowers

Yeah, I'm going to try to be a good boy for now. Whatever that means... laugh


whatever you do, don't become a 'nice guy' winking


Never! noway laugh drinker

Lily0923's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:43 AM


((((Lily)))) flowers

Yeah, I'm going to try to be a good boy for now. Whatever that means... laugh


whatever you do, don't become a 'nice guy' winking


I don't see that happening anytime soon....

franshade's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:44 AM


Lily - what a way to start your day! but glad it happened as it did, imagine if you weren't present and the kid did CPR on that lady... yikes.

things happen for a reason and today your reason was to help a stranger

flowerforyou


There's nothing you can do for someone who is seizing, just make sure they don't hurt themselves more, she fell hard too, I'll bet she broke something in her fall. Poor lady.


glad you were there flowerforyou to take control and handle the situation

wiley's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:47 AM
Edited by wiley on Thu 10/02/08 07:48 AM



Lily - what a way to start your day! but glad it happened as it did, imagine if you weren't present and the kid did CPR on that lady... yikes.

things happen for a reason and today your reason was to help a stranger

flowerforyou


There's nothing you can do for someone who is seizing, just make sure they don't hurt themselves more, she fell hard too, I'll bet she broke something in her fall. Poor lady.


glad you were there flowerforyou to take control and handle the situation


Personally, the kid should have just called 911. In any sort of emergency as long as the first responder to an incident knows what they are doing, you pretty much just back off and help them if they need it. (Usually meaning -- they specifically ask for it.) Otherwise if you insist on doing something, it's better to just play crowd control. If Lily hadn't been there, that idiot might have killed her or at the very least caused serious injury.

Ruth34611's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:48 AM
What grocery store was it? I want to make sure and never go there. laugh

MirrorMirror's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:49 AM

I go to the grocery store today to get bread and milk. That's all I wanted bread and milk.

As I walked through the meat department a lady convulses and falls to the floor.

I drop all of my stuff to try to catch her, dropping my milk and it made a huge mess, this dopey guy that works there sees me and goes to grab a mop that is right there. I yell at him to call 911, I would call from my phone but I'm trying to help this lady.

He yells to the people in the meat department to call 911 and comes over to "help" and says we need to give her CPR.

I say "She's breathing she's having a seizure there's nothing we can do except keep her from hurting herself"

He insists she needs CPR.

At this point a manager or supervisor or something comes over and I tell him to get this guy out of the way and ask him for something to put under her head.

I wait there til EMS comes, and was so frazzled I left the store with no milk or bread.

It's not even 10am yet.... Can I have a do over for the day?
flowers You poor little thingflowers Come here and let me give you a hugflowers

Lily0923's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:51 AM
There were other people in a resonable distance, someone would have stopped him.

Lily0923's photo
Thu 10/02/08 07:52 AM

What grocery store was it? I want to make sure and never go there. laugh


Giant Eagle, i don't know if they have those in Cali.